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Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by mikes280
hell in 03 no fear wore that that skater out two or three times and he cried that he was king of the run, get real that skater could not hold a candle to no fear then or now. no fear slowed at the bridge and let it go i guess if you blast by everyone at the last second you are the man even if they have already slowed
Second we certainly did get passed by reggie and his race boat, and maybe a few more! on the way to the first stop, But due to a small error in Navigation, they didnt get there first. Which brings up a real good question, If you dont know where you are going do you think getting there at 150 mph plus is a good thing. and as for passing us all day well after the second stop a powerhead let loose, and ended the day. however we still went to lunch and cruised back to the ramp on plane with one engine. Ryan Beckly and Mark Hanna were in the boat. ask them they are both stand up guys. |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by Fanatic
Are you telling me in the video when Rio and Speed racer are sitting side by side and the Rio clearly pulls away that's editing? Uh, not a chance.
I guess we do know who "sees what they want to see". No not the IHBA 0-100mph race at the end, the offshore race boat portion in the middle where both boats are going balls to the wall. Now go get the taste of balls out of your mouth - its making you testy :D |
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Not again.....
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Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by Fanatic
The theme here I see is consistent Reggie bashing for being "irresponsible" and "driving at unsafe speeds" yet the cats were open canopy pleasure boats with PASSENGERS driving at the same speeds or as claimed by Speed Racer even faster! We even have a 174 mph GPS picture in Speed racer yet it's all Reggie bashing and Reggies fault. Why is that?
Not one post about SR or the 150 mph cats being irresponsible... A lot of hypocricy here. There's always a few boats that run high 100's in poker runs and it's probably not always safe. But to be an owner of a large boat company and to come and challenge people to race (when it's not a sanctioned racing event and without their knowledge :rolleyes: ) is VERY irresponsible and childish. And being a Fountain owner, YOU should think that what he did was irresponsible. Just imagine the lawsuit that would follow if the Roses boat ran over and killed a family in their 19' Bayliner. The lawsuit could jeopardize the whole Fountain company, especially when it's brought up later in court that it was all for publicity...stupid. Maybe SR was driving these speeds too and it's also unsafe for him, but all he has to answer to is his own, not a huge company, stock holders and boat owners that would suffer if something bad happened. Maybe people make fun of him because he's an easy target with what appears to be a very large ego..."No movie stars down there..." "Bye Bye ***** cats..." "Guess they couldn't stand the strain and pain..." "Fastest boat in the world..." JEEEEEEZ, get over yourself. At the very least be a true good sport and not talk so much sh!t...Act like a juvenile and then guess what happens? people will treat you in a juvenile manner. |
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It hasn't done much for the stock value....http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=FPB&t=6m
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Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by Pete B
First off the organization that put on the event said first boat to the first stop, which was a 24 FT Skater powered by twin 200's, not a 42 fountain with reggie at the wheel, and not NO FEAR! are they faster Yes , they outpower the skater by 1600 hp, but that day a 24 skater was king of the river .
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Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by Pete B
and as for passing us all day well after the second stop a powerhead let loose, and ended the day. however we still went to lunch and cruised back to the ramp on plane with one engine. .
If you want to talk the talk, you better be able to walk the walk. and neither boat did. Like I said before, its not the Daytona 499. Its the Daytona 500. |
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Hey OSO, can we have these three threads moved to the Apache section please??
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Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by thisistank
But to be an owner of a large boat company and to come and challenge people to race (when it's not a sanctioned racing event and without their knowledge :rolleyes: ) is VERY irresponsible and childish.
Maybe SR was driving these speeds too |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by CMG
It hasn't done much for the stock value....http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=FPB&t=6m
I'm sure Wall Street was paying attention to the poker run :drink: . Actually, Sales and profit for Fountain have been great since they got Brunswich as the boss. But those profits come from their sportfish, and their cruisers. Their offshore stuff is a much smaller part of their profits |
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And being a Fountain owner, YOU should think that what he did was irresponsible. Just imagine the lawsuit that would follow if the Roses boat ran over and killed a family in their 19' Bayliner. |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by NRG
. And about the lawuit, it's his company and he is doing what he does best...getting everyone to think, write and talk fountain.
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Yes....where was the challange...and where were all these no wake zones they blew through...i just watched the video again....looks pretty clean to me....who started the no wake bs. :rolleyes:
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Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by the duke
It seems from the BOGUS SR cockpit pictures that he was running at 170. IN AN OPEN BOAT. Now he needs to tell his secret about how he did that at 4500 and 5500 RPM on his motors.
Maybe that's what happened and also made it "feel" like the best time to shoot the photo.......... :rolleyes: |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by FeverMike
I didn't edit the video. Were did you get that from...I am not even associated with Fountain. Nice 1st post by the way...you will probably hide behind the keyboard like so many other wannabe's too. I just agreed with Ed's post and a lot of people on here act totally childish by attacking a person's looks....me saying that and agreeing with Ed C's post is not acting cocky.
PS... I dont hide, and you can come to expect smartass comments to be the majority of my posts... see I'm 2 for 2... no RBI's yet tho |
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I have seen all the comments and agree to some extent, but when you go to a Fun Run or Poker Run, you will have your best equipment there. If you think for one minute that it is not a race to some extent, then you are crazy. At every poker run, there is a race of some sort somewhere in the pack.
I would not even consider going to a poker run, unprepared and expect that the other boats are not gunning. Live in the Real World. It is not a race, but who does not want to show off their equipment if they have the chance? |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by CASH BAR
It could just be me, but if I back off the throttles in the cat, even for a second, the RPM's surely drop but the speed remains the same 'til gravity/friction or more throttle take over.
Maybe that's what happened and also made it "feel" like the best time to shoot the photo.......... :rolleyes: |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by CMG
No not the IHBA 0-100mph race at the end, the offshore race boat portion in the middle where both boats are going balls to the wall.
The guy said at NO time was the Fountain ahead, no advantage ever. I then pointed out in the video the Fountain ran away from the cat froma stop when they were both side by side. See his quotes below. I can say without a doubt, that there was at NO time any advantage in favor or the Rio Roses boat. So much in fact that the only time the boat was ever ahead of the Speed Racer boat, was in the "No Wake" Zones when Randy (SpeedRacer) was obeying the Laws of the Water.. Like I said, I can honestly say that there was absolutly no advantage at ANY point by the Fountain, at any point up untill the blower belt failure on the motor. Unless your talking about in the No wake Zone. And and as sad as it is, the Speed Racer boat will not maintain 170mph on just one Sterling, thus ending the idea of playing for the rest of the day. Considering each time the boats lined up, the Fountain was left back in the wake, It was more of saying..."What would have happened if it was turned up, and on the big props, then how bad would it have been?"
Originally Posted by CMG
Now go get the taste of balls out of your mouth - its making you testy :D
I wouldn't know about "sucking on balls" so I'll leave that to you. :D |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by F-32
when I was referring to "you" I meant "Reggie" ...
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I believe Rio was still in the "No Wake" area at that holeshot time.
I am in the Yellow 42' FOUNTAIN in the background and that was my perspective. |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by CASH BAR
I believe Rio was still in the "No Wake" area at that holeshot time.
I am in the Yellow 42' FOUNTAIN in the background and that was my perspective. 1) Speed Racer was going WOT along with the Fountain yet no one is slamming the cat(s) for doing the same thing. Why is that? 2) Speed Racer is WOT and is racing, sorry you can watch the video and see, which is contrary to one of the posts by the guy in the cat. Watch from 2:55 on. |
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I know...i think everybody should watch the video a few times so it sinks in a little.... :p ...what a bunch of crappin yuppies :evilb:
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[QUOTE=Fanatic]Well if that's the case then it points out more hypocricy. :evilb:
1) Speed Racer was going WOT along with the Fountain yet no one is slamming the cat(s) for doing the same thing. Why is that? [QUOTE] Correct on #1, but my point was in response to his claim that "Rio only was in front during runs in the No-wake areas"......tp paraphrase. |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by Byrdman
I know...i think everybody should watch the video a few times so it sinks in a little.... :p ...what a bunch of crappin yuppies :evilb:
Blue collar here bro.......check my profile. But for laughs, check my signature......... :eek: :evilb: |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by animalhouse
Say what you want about who won or lost, the fact is that is extermely irresponsible to bring this attitude to a poker run. Rio Roses ran with no regards of safety to anybody else around them. 150+ through no wake zones is flat out dangerous!!!!
This sport is extremely vulnerable right now, and to have one of the most influential manufactures create an info mercial claiming it is a race, just makes the case stronger for all of those who want to ban poker runs. You are 100% Right . Mike |
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So how fast is Speed racer?
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Fast enough Reggie knew to single him out in the pre-run idle area.....
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Animalhouse.
How did Mike F like the the Jersey mud when he ran agound on the NJPBC poker run ??? Mike |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by JCPERF
So how fast is Speed racer?
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Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by CASH BAR
Correct on #1, but my point was in response to his claim that "Rio only was in front during runs in the No-wake areas"......tp paraphrase.
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Hauling Trash,
Mike loved it! He is following reggie's example and collecting valuable data for research. Just as he thought, the bottom and waterpickups can withstand that type of situation. (J.K.) These things happen, I wasn't there this weekend so I only heard a few small pieces of the story. But from what I hear, a few dinged props and all is good. These things happen. |
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TO "The Duke" :
Here are some details that might help clear somethings up. 1) There is absolutly NO editing what so ever in those photos other then resizing, sharpening, and the borders. 2) The shots where taken while shall we say "hauling the mail" that doesn't mean the throttles were pinned for 5 min. strait. Randy (driver) was on and off the throttles depending on the situation. The motors also have enough power to blow through the props, and hit the limiters. So this shot may have been taken as he was pulling back on her. I wish I could tell ya, but man I don't know what to say, other then at 165+ in an open boat. I was lucky that I could even get a photo off, let alone one that showed the dash. 3) The only time SR was "beat" when lining up with the Fountain. Was leaving the first card stop. And that is ONLY IF THE RACE was "who got on plane fastest" All fountain would have to do, to discredit me, or anyone else is show some side by side footage while both boats were up on plain and under full power. I have photos of us side by side....from behind and pass. If they had a chopper, why don't they have the same shots? 4) I have photos of the belt, and pulley failure if you want proof of that as well. Since it also took out the belt that runs the dry sump oiling system, as well as the main harness that comes off the alternator. So to say it's an excuss, I will have to strongly disagree. That motor became what you would call "dead in the water" This will be my last post on this matter, cause I don't mean any disrespect. I have nothing to gain or loose.... I was just posting up the facts. I hope everyone had a great weekend! My Best Regards, EA |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by JCPERF
160,170 180?
You testing the waters :D |
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I'll admit that I haven't read every thread on this issue, but let me see if I've got it straight...
1. Reggie shows up at a Poker Run with a full-on race boat (Rio Roses), driven and throttled by a race crew, with full race equipment (helmets and what not); 2. At some point(s) in the Poker Run, Rio Roses lines up with a pleasure cat (Speed Racer?) with 5 passengers and unknown safety gear; 3. Rio Roses "runs" Speed Racer, pulling away at least once. Reggie has the event filmed (or obtains film) showing RR pulling away from the cat. 4. Fountain uses this video and issues a press release claiming to have beaten the cat in this unannounced, unsanctioned, untimed "race", insinuating that Fountain builds the fastest boats on water V or cat. 5. There is significant debate as to whether the portion of the video accurately portrays the event in question. In summary, Fountain is claiming that their race boat beat a pleasure boat that didn't know it was racing (apparently being misled by all the "Poker Run" signs and whatnot). Pretty cheesy, any way you cut it - what's next, bad toupees and big gold chains - err, never mind.... |
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In the video, after the first card stop, when they both take off together, and it appears Rio pulls way ahead of S.R. did you end up catching and passing Rio ??
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Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by E.A.
TO "The Duke" :
Here are some details that might help clear somethings up. 2) The shots where taken while shall we say "hauling the mail" that doesn't mean the throttles were pinned for 5 min. strait. Randy (driver) was on and off the throttles depending on the situation. The motors also have enough power to blow through the props, and hit the limiters. So this shot may have been taken as he was pulling back on her. The water was glass calm, and as the video shows, the boats weren't coming out of the water 1 inch. SO no reason to back off. And if he was running 170, he was not blowing out the props, so again no reason to back off. At 170, SR would be near or at her top end. You don't blow out props at top end. |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by dockrocker
In summary, Fountain is claiming that their race boat beat a pleasure boat that didn't know it was racing (apparently being misled by all the "Poker Run" signs and whatnot).
and you don't really think that any of those MTI/Nortech/Skater cats are "really" pleasure boats do you? :drink: :D I didn't see Reggie come down from the Chopper and make SR put the hammer down. They did that all by them selves. Many times I've had boats come up along side me and want to race, and I haven't for various reasons, passengers didn't want to, unsafe conditions etc. |
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Originally Posted by Chris288
In the video, after the first card stop, when they both take off together, and it appears Rio pulls way ahead of S.R. did you end up catching and passing Rio ??
After the fountian video "cuts". we came up on plane and started the "catch back up process" You see where the fountain video cuts off correct... right as they are turning... with a nice slow bank to the right. Now do you see the photo on the main page of this site, where we are right at the tail of them. How did we get there you ask???? Well... That is what would have been seen if the video would have continued... and then if it would have went farther, you would have seen us passing them, and staying out in front until, SR throttled back down for the next no wake zone. (As far as the photo being bogus) I don't know what to tell ya.... yes the water was pretty smooth, but sorry to say there was still many reasons to lift.... traffic, water conditions, small currents. When she was going 165+ she was pretty much flying at that point, and Randy was being very very safe with all of us riding with him, and not having harness or any gear. So no it was not pinned all the time. So the motors were up and down a good mount of times. Yes the boat felt very secure and safe.... but lets be real here.... it was 174! Mph at the point of one of the photos. Here is another photo of the dash durring the run, sorry that I didn't post this one the first time, cause it was burry....(shaky hands trying to get the shot, while still holding on) I didn't think anyone would be caring about what the Tachs really said, or even thinking I would put a bogus photo up. http://www.houseofboost.com/temp/DSCN2227_resize.JPG Hope that helps. Sorry like I said, that I didn't put that one up the first time. You can clearly see one motor at nearly 7,000 and the other at 6,200 who knows why the one was biting harder or what, maybe we crossed a wake or something, I don't know. I was just taking photos, and enjoying the ride of a lifetime. EA |
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Just a thought for all of you to think about with the eye in the sky......
The lens of the camera is looking at RR on the inside and the SR on the outside. Some will say that both boats pulled away from the helicopter. But what if the helicopter purposely slowed down? Either way, you get the same result. Take two objects (the 2 boats) even if they are running exactly the same speed, if you rotate to the back of the boats, what happens? The closer object to the camera looks like it is ahead of or passing the outside object. Nothing tricky about it. Just common sense. So if they wanted to film it as though they left SR in their wake, you slow down the helicopter and take a few seconds of footage. :evilb: |
Re: Speed Racer calling Reggie!
Originally Posted by sharkeymarine
Just a thought for all of you to think about with the eye in the sky......
The lens of the camera is looking at RR on the inside and the SR on the outside. Some will say that both boats pulled away from the helicopter. But what if the helicopter purposely slowed down? Either way, you get the same result. Take two objects (the 2 boats) even if they are running exactly the same speed, if you rotate to the back of the boats, what happens? The closer object to the camera looks like it is ahead of or passing the outside object. Nothing tricky about it. Just common sense. So if they wanted to film it as though they left SR in their wake, you slow down the helicopter and take a few seconds of footage. :evilb: |
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