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Dean Ferry 06-23-2006 12:36 PM

Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
And this doesn't even involve the Manatee yet! :eek:

If you live on Lake Lanier, I would be calling my elected officals and B!TCHING up a storm. :mad:




Judge orders Ga. water released to Fla.




BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - A federal judge has ordered the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to release more water from Georgia into Florida, citing the federal Endangered Species Act.

U.S. District Judge Karon Bowdre ruled Thursday afternooon that 8,000 cubic feet per second be released from the Jim Woodruff Lock and Dam at Georgia's Lake Seminole for 10 days unless future court orders rule otherwise.

Bowdre said in court documents the extra water is necessary to save certain protected mussel species in the Apalachicola River in Florida that are in danger of extinction.

Bowdre also ordered that a hearing on Florida's motion for a temporary restraining order scheduled for this morning be converted to a hearing on whether a preliminary injunction filed by Florida in January is justified.

The Apalachicola is formed by the confluence of the Chattahoochee River along the Georgia-Alabama line and the Flint River at Lake Seminole, located along the Florida border.

Prior to the order, the corps had been releasing 5,000 cubic feet per second of water from Georgia reservoirs along the Chattahoochee River to protect Florida mussels and Gulf sturgeon.

Georgia has already protested that too much water had been taken from reservoirs along the Chattahoochee River system and filed on Wednesday a temporary restraining order to limit the amount of water the Corps could take from its lakes.

The corps is required to release the water from the reservoirs to maintain stream levels in the Apalachicola to provide an adequate habitat for both species, which are protected under the federal Endangered Species Act.

Corps spokesman Pat Robbins said his agency and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service believed that the 5,000 cubic feet per second level was sufficient to protect the mussels but that level of water did "have some exposed mussels." The judge's order makes sure the mussels are submerged in the river, he said.

Georgia's water supply will not be affected by the court order, Robbins said.

"The 8,000 cubic feet per second will not come from any particular lake," he said. "We take a little bit from (Lake) Lanier, West Point Lake, Walter F. George (Reservoir) and we look at what flows come in from the Flint River. As long as the total flow is 8,000 cubic feet per second, then we meet the intent" of the order.

But he said recreation along the reservoirs could be affected if the judge extends the order into the summer.

"Several marinas will not be able to operate. There will be a lot of closed boat ramps and a lot of boat docks will not be able to be used," he said, adding that Georgia's Lake Lanier could drop by as much as six feet in September if the flows are continued.


There you go, the ESA again screws humans FIRST!
Dean

Cash Bar 06-23-2006 04:25 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
The lake is already dangerously low as an erroneous water gauge had them release too much water by about 3 feet before it was noticed. :eek:

Lake Lanier Poker Run is in danger, as well as the uptick in friendly recreation for Atlanta's metro residents.

Bunch of jakazzes calling the shots in ANOTHER STATE !! :mad:

CAP071 06-23-2006 04:57 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
That sucks for people there :mad:

Poorsche 06-23-2006 05:13 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
The old excuse from the CORPSE of engineers was that Lanier wasn't a recreation lake--it was for flood control and power generation.

When I lived on the lake way back they let it go down 15 feet a couple of times. You couls see the old roads, stumps, tree, and all kinds of new islands popped up.

The Gov has filed suit, the Congressman have met with the Corpse--and essentially they were told to go to hell--as usual.

Cash Bar 06-23-2006 05:17 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 

Originally Posted by Poorsche
The old excuse from the CORPSE of engineers was that Lanier wasn't a recreation lake--it was for flood control and power generation.

When I lived on the lake way back they let it go down 15 feet a couple of times. You couls see the old roads, stumps, tree, and all kinds of new islands popped up.

The Gov has filed suit, the Congressman have met with the Corpse--and essentially they were told to go to hell--as usual.

Sounds about the same as I remember 4-5 years ago when half the Lake Lots were DRY lots. Then we had a few good years and people returned, values increased, navigation was easy.

Seems like I should re-evaluate my desire to own on the lake there. :mad:

DirtyMoney 06-23-2006 05:20 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
This is one of the main reasons we will not be having our poker run this year and cannot determine next year yet.

Beau

Cash Bar 06-23-2006 05:21 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 

Originally Posted by rbr2328
This is one of the main reasons we will not be having our poker run this year and cannot determine next year yet.

Beau

Well, there goes that weekend....... :mad:

Anyone want to play some hoops instead. :mad:

pachangalpina 06-23-2006 05:52 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
Isn't Lanier a resevoir for Atlanta? And we are on water restrictions right now? If they are not careful Atlanta could treat the water going back in as they have been known to do in the past.

asg 06-23-2006 06:37 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 

Originally Posted by CASH BAR
The lake is already dangerously low as an erroneous water gauge had them release too much water by about 3 feet before it was noticed. :eek:

Lake Lanier Poker Run is in danger, as well as the uptick in friendly recreation for Atlanta's metro residents.

Bunch of jakazzes calling the shots in ANOTHER STATE !! :mad:

Don't you live in that other state??????

Cash Bar 06-24-2006 02:42 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
Yes, I live in Florida.

Legislature is a bunch of Jagoffs. If I could boat in Ga. year 'round I'd be there. Apparently I won't even be able to boat there in the F'n Summer. :mad:

Dean Ferry 06-24-2006 03:28 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
Sorry CB, didn't mean to get you steamed! :rolleyes: But I thought it was noteworthy for all the folks at LL. It's another classic example of some critter, that would probobly do just fine, without the HELP of man, BUT instead it becomes another tree-hugger poster child, (IE MONEY MAKER! :evilb: ) to SUE the GOV"T over! :mad: :evilb: :mad:
Hope you guys @ LL get alot of rain this summer!
Dean

BahamaBaja 06-24-2006 05:50 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
My Brother lives on LL.
I'm going up there this Friday, I'll
let you all know how the water is. :eek:

CAP071 06-24-2006 05:53 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
I just watched on the news a lake in Florida draining itself due to a sink hole? :eek:

CAP071 06-24-2006 05:54 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13471545/

cuda 06-24-2006 07:36 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
I'm sure the mussels experienced high, and low water levels way before there was ever such a thing as the Corps of Eng. They seemed to survived it just fine. If they are worried about sturgeon, just ride up the Suwannee River during the summer. You will see them launching out of the water like polaris missles. A freind of mine was riding the Suwannee when one jumped up, the fish hit a female passenger and she had a lot of injuries. They had to airlift her out. :(

pachangalpina 06-25-2006 02:51 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
it rained for hours last night and is raining again now. We just need more of, preferably during the week.

Steet 06-25-2006 08:47 PM

Re: Georgia Boaters should take notice of this BS!!!
 
What's wrong with extinct mussels? Or any other species for that matter. Glad these idiots were not around millions of years ago or we would have to watch out for dinasours in our rivers today. What's wrong with extinction? I sort of wish the mother-in-law thing could do just that.


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