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That's what I was thinking - at most on-water places around here, there is staff that will tie up your boat, and move it if necessary. Dockage tends to be limited and they will enforce rafting when it gets busy. The dockhands are good - they move boats around like you wouldn't believe.

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none of the restaurants on lake travis have dock boys. you just pull up and tie up.

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if you got away with it Roux.. good for you. Your intentions were good.
But I'm trying to follow the logic here.
So... a guy with a $250,000 boat is more worthy of respect than a guy with a $15,000 boat?

If a guy does not have a skater or an OL then he probably doesn't care about his boat and you can proceed without regard?

I may or may not pitch a fit when I get to the float... but you start changing my lines on my immaculate 1987 resin bucket and you are gonna meet a very concerned owner with a raised defcon level.
(I don't tie up in such a way as to leave a half a space on each end of the boat... so it shouldn't happen anyway.)

I would only touch another person's vessel if I felt that I could save it from imminent danger.

If your boat caught on fire, I would move the boat next to you.

If my boat didn't fit in the available space I would make a mental note to get an earlier start next time. That way... I don't have to show up last and move people's stuff.

I think that playing psychic about whether someone will care that you messed with their boat/lines is a bad plan.

Even at my yacht club, members will visually check each other's boats, but we do not change each other's lines.
Heck, we don't even board each other's boats without permission to board granted by the skipper.

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I wont move another boat to get in unless it's a buddies. I do always check adjacent boats lines to make sure they are secure. If they're not and I cant find the owner I'll secure them.

That's as far as I'd go, I have seen some total a-holes at the dock and wouldn't want to have to have to justify moving their boat. Right or wrong they are there first regardless of where they tie up.

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Don't touch my boat and I won't touch yours to me is a good rule.....BZ

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Fund . . . jeezus man.

It not about respecting a Skater, whatever.
I don't know if you read the "Shoes on Boats" thread or not. . . . honest to God, there were guys saying they don't want girls to wear friggin JEWELRY on their boat fer chrissakes. Like put on a Haz-Mat suit before you board MY boat ("wait there, I've got 'em right here").

This guys boat was much like mine. Clean. Shipshape. That's it.

And the "mental note to leave earlier" thing.
This was later afternoon. After 50-odd miles on a pretty big day in the Pacific Ocean to Catalina Island and back.

Anyways, it is NOT something I ever undertake lightly. Hence the thread.
It's been pretty interesting so far.

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OK . . .

You're driving your new 40SS Formula Cruiser.
You pull up with your party, to get a late-afternoon lunch. Everybody's hungry.
You're waiting for a spot. There's other boats waiting as well. Eventually, most of the boats leave, leaving you a 50' space. Except for an 8' Zodiac right in the middle. You wait 20 min more.

What do you do ?

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Scnario where I once moved someones boat and tied it back up better than it was. There are 100' Long docks 25 feet apart there are two 10' beam or less boats tied up I pull my 7 foot beam all the way in on the right. Go to dinner, come back to find a 10 foot beam behind me next to one tied to the other dock " I CANT LEAVE " In an effort to possibly avoid moving someone I wait maybe 45 minutes... Having a half dozen friends that have all grown up in boats we moved the beast I pulled out and the queen mary was retied the way it is supposed to be . Block me in and leave it unnatended Ill move it

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Buy an 8 foot zodiac ?

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Now that IS funny. :D

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That's actually two 21' spaces, your boat isn't going to fit :drink:

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That's grounds to run after someone and put down an ass beating.

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90% of the time I don't touch other people's boats unless I have to. If you tie the boat up like an a$$hole and take up the whole dock then I'm going to move it. :eek:

It's like at the gas dock..dude pulls up and needs to be right in the center of the dock so no one else can pull in...NO RESPECT. :mad:

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Ok. Maybe this will help answer the question. How many people have taken it upon themselves to move someone elses vessel and had there ass reemed for doing so?

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My motto has always been, if you don't own it, it's not yours to touch. Although at Kingsmill a few years ago another boater had, without approval of the dockmaster, taken our paid slip and was no where to be found after much searching (no keys either). (We needed the bigger space) Dockmaster's fault of course for letting the person dock the boat in our slip; however guys in our boat caravan and the dockmaster moved the boat forward to the outside of the docks to allow us entry into our slip. Not sure when he/her returned, but at 6:00 a.m. the next morning the person slipped out and skipped on paying for docking. Since the dockmaster initiated the move the person could take it up with Kingsmill shoud there have been additional problems as a result.

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What ya trying to say Fund :D

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Gotta admit, I've done it before, and I've also had it done to me.
Maybe it's just me, but if I have the boat just tied up at a restaurant, I'm checking it every 10-15 Minutes in between drinks, before/after dinner. If I see someone moving my boat, I'll go down and help them move it, and help fast their boat. If I see someone milling, and I have room to move mine (i.e. someone else has left, and milling boat is larger than space available), I'll go down and move it.
I guess I always just thought that was a part of being a boater.
I also thought in a raft, walking across swimplatforms in boat friendly shoes (white soles, or Boat shoes) was acceptable, remove your shoes if no platform is available, and walk across sunpad.
Thought this was just part of the boating karma.
I'm not going to move and re-tie a boat that is obviously worth more than I will make in my lifetime without the owner being present, too much liability. I'm fairly confident in my line handling, but I ain't risking it.

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It . . it's like we were . . . separated at birth or something . . .

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Yeah, and we both prefer coal grills :D

Maybe not all you left-coast guys are f-ed up. :evilb:

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I personally would'nt squeeze into too tight a space. I would be looking for someone who could assist like the dock hands or boat owner. I for one(as well as others in my party) will watch each and every boat tie up till the space next to mine is filled and I find most boat owners do the same.. Then I can rest easier. I consider myself more than competent at tieing up a boat, but just dont know how the other guy would take the situation. I wouldn't want someone moving my boat without my O.K. Sure its been done to me though I'm not thrilled about it. I dont get nasty but I recheck every line and bumper. I'd most likely be there to lend a hand to accomidate someone anyway before it got to that point.

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in my slip in the marina the guy next to me has a house boat, 5 to 8 weeks of the year he ties a 24' pontoon behind the house boat, sidesways, making it almost impossible for me to get out. I move it every time. More than once I thought about forgetting how to tie one off....

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Like I said... your intentions were good... I'm glad that it worked out.

I was just trying to wrap the noggin around the "value to respect ratio" aspect of the debate that I thought was starting to come up.

The mental note to leave earlier was a description of what I do. If there is someplace that I wan't to make sure that I get a slip... I try to get there early.
I didn't know if it applied to you or not.

I did read the no shoes thread. I think that I posted. I am not nearly as bad as some folks. I will sometimes wear shoes on my boat. I won't wear them on another guy's boat tho.

Totally was not trying to abuse you Roux.

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He doesn't sound neighborly.

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Believe me, I agonized on it . . .

My whole crew is hungry as hell. They can SMELL the food and cocktails. They are drooling like St. Bernards all over my boat.

There is a space - right in front of me - that is exactly as big as my boat.

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Roux
After a long hard tiring run like you experienced or if I looked and saw a big azz storm coming in fast I might be inclined to do things differntly than if I was just lollygaging around on a sunny afternoon with no particular place to go.......

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Well it came down to pulling his plug, cutting his docklines, or inching him back a foot. . . .





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