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pambs 07-10-2006 03:43 AM

Choosing an appropriate engine
 
was wondering whether the merc 496 mag 375hp will fit in a 94' 23'' nova spyder

the boat had the below options when it was new

merc 7.4L 300hp
merc 454 mac

pambs 07-10-2006 06:20 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
will 496 mag be an option???

Ted G 07-10-2006 06:48 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
Yes, it is an easy swap as long as you have all the bolt on components with the 496. Most of the outside accessories are different between the earlier engines and the leter model ones.

pambs 07-10-2006 07:35 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
i might get a used mag from the classfieds, i'll need a transom and a drive

Drive - Bravo X would do? if in the future i upgrade the engine to the 496 HO?

what other components are a must, i m new to this :rolleyes:

pambs 07-11-2006 12:46 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
i know that this sounds stupid to you expert guys but i ve just started. if anyone can direct to some readings that will also do

Dave M 07-11-2006 08:09 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
I replaced my 454 Mag with a 496HO. If you are already set up for a Bravo, and it is in good shape, you don't need to do anything with the drive or transom. Drop the motor in and GO!

pambs 07-11-2006 08:39 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
no there is no drive or transom, that's why i'm asking for recomendations

what about guages? i ve heard that boat engines come with the guages?

Dave M 07-11-2006 09:28 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 

Originally Posted by pambs
no there is no drive or transom, that's why i'm asking for recomendations

what about guages? i ve heard that boat engines come with the guages?

How long do you plan on keeping this boat?

There may be cheaper ways of doing it but I would see if you can find a COMPLETE package. When I repowered I could of rebuilt my old motor or found "custom" power for much less money. But, to me, it was worth the $$ to get a complete brand new engine, warranty and all.

The gauges are NOT included. With the 496's you can get the smartcraft system which is pretty nice.

pambs 07-11-2006 09:39 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
the plan is to keep the boat and not change it. In cyprus the nova 23' is consider to be a powerboat.

i dont know why anyone bought anything bigger here.

the nova i found is a 93' model without an engine and since its the closest i could get to a powerboat i want it.

i wanted a direct fit thats why i think the 496 would be a good option regarding modification and power, also there are a few used in the classifieds that seems to be a bargain

what kind of gauges would i'll need in order to monitor the engine at a certain level?

ericaull 07-11-2006 09:47 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
If you are planning to upgrade to the HO eventually, why not do it now? This way you won't have to open up, and work on, a factory built 496......you are doing right by asking around....you can often find a "almost new" engine,intermediate,and drive at high performance shops.....they will usually give a fair deal on these components. :drink: E

Dave M 07-11-2006 09:50 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
Tach, water temp, oil pressure, volts, fuel, trim, at a minimum.

Oil temp, fuel pressure, water pressure are optional and not really need on a stock 496.

Depth finder and GPS speedo are nice to have.

With a 496 you can get the Smartcraft monitor and you really don't need gauges. The gauges look cool though!

http://www.mercurymarine.com/smartcraft_sc1000_monitor

ericaull 07-11-2006 09:51 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 

Originally Posted by pambs
the plan is to keep the boat and not change it. In cyprus the nova 23' is consider to be a powerboat.

i dont know why anyone bought anything bigger here.

the nova i found is a 93' model without an engine and since its the closest i could get to a powerboat i want it.

i wanted a direct fit thats why i think the 496 would be a good option regarding modification and power, also there are a few used in the classifieds that seems to be a bargain

what kind of gauges would i'll need in order to monitor the engine at a certain level?

The basic gauges are: Tachometer, Water Temp., Engine Oil Pressure, Volt meter

Stormrider 07-11-2006 10:48 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
Are there any merc dealers locally?

pambs 07-12-2006 12:52 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
yeah there is a merc dealer but i think the price of a new 496 ho here will be twice the price of a new 496 ho in the states

having a look under the classifieds there are some 496 ho for sale in the range of 12000-13000 which seems to be very nice

Stormrider 07-12-2006 08:13 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
There is a real nice raylar 496 for sale in that range i believe.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-10746.html

pambs 07-12-2006 08:49 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 

Originally Posted by Stormrider
There is a real nice raylar 496 for sale in that range i believe.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-10746.html

yeah i ve already contact the guy for more info

i also send an email to the local mercury dealer and the price i got for a stock 496 HO with a bravo 1 drive was $40000

that's why a used engine from the states would save a lot of money

Stormrider 07-12-2006 09:21 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
40K!!! HOLY CHIT!

There is also a blue merc 500efi for 11-12k w/ 100hrs too!

NefariousOne 07-12-2006 12:32 PM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 

Originally Posted by pambs

i also send an email to the local mercury dealer and the price i got for a stock 496 HO with a bravo 1 drive was $40000



Bahahaha...... I almost spit my drink out...... you can get that motor and drive for MUCH less money...... Whom ever qouted you that number needs a swift kick to the junk! :snide:

NefariousOne 07-12-2006 12:36 PM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
Hell, you can get a used/ rebuilt with 1 year warranty 496HO for like 12K from victory.

Stormrider 07-12-2006 01:50 PM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
N.O., he is in Greece.

jlmtx83 07-12-2006 02:32 PM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
Nice, good place. Not too far from Agia Napa and Pils Hellas is a damn fine beer

pambs 07-13-2006 02:25 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
been to Ayia Napa before? nice!!!

i'm there every weekend, that's why i want the boat!

btw what is Victory? somekind of dealer?

Raylar 07-14-2006 12:06 AM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
If you are interested in our 496"s with 525HP to 600HP versions, we have just shipped about 3 such motors to Europe this summer. You can visit our website @www.raylarengine.com or call our regular number in california @(858) 277-4688 M-F 8 to 6 pm Pacific time and maybe we could help with your needs.

Regards,

Ray @ Raylar

k24u 07-16-2006 10:21 PM

Re: Choosing an appropriate engine
 
I have a 93 nova spyder came stock 330 hp 454 pulled motor did a complete repower built using 425-525 sc cam heads flowed big valves headers only thing left stock is the block, alt. pwr steering pump running bravo 1 drive low water pick-up 4 blade labbed bravo1 24 runs 73 gps. As for gauges I am running auto-meter marine


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