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fund razor 07-21-2006 12:45 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by BajaRunner
LMAO :D

I know the feeling. Ive got a deal going on mine where i have to send in a check with his check :(

At least I cleared something in the mid single digits. :D

pm203 07-21-2006 12:55 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Unless you sold him the boat at gunpoint, you should have no reservations about the sale. Congratulations!

StillHaulin@63 07-21-2006 12:57 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
I was 20 when I bought my first boat, an old wooden "speedboat" with a Cadillac engine.
Although quite a while ago, I think the only question I asked was: HOW MUCH IS IT?

Now some 40 years later, with six or seven boats under my belt,
I recently purchased a 2000 Baja 232 Boss from a young man in Texas.
After studying the detail relating to his Baja, once again the only question I asked was: HOW MUCH IS IT!

I guess you never get over the exitement ....

Cash Bar 07-21-2006 01:00 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
The best deal is always the one where "both sides are happy"........sounds like this was a good deal.

I made a few mistakes with my first(and second) hi-po's. The boats were great, it was the scumbags selling them that was the problem. :mad:

Not mentioning any names in the National scheme of things, but the both were sold by Bill H's......... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

jhiguy377 07-21-2006 03:32 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Don't feel bad at all; the right buyer for the kind of boat you decsribe is someone that's in love with the idea of boating and is semi-mystified by all of the new, interesting and cool(to him) equipment on the boat. Congratulations!
Jeff

jayboat 07-21-2006 04:55 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
Thanks man.
Shopping for a really nice hammock. :D

Stepped or non-stepped? :evilb:

Congrats on the sale. Now that you are one of the 'boatless' I hope this doesn't mean you're gonna become one of the 'missing' around here as well. :(

Lee 07-21-2006 05:11 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
I was at the _________ boat factory a couple of years ago when they were delivering a brand new offshore, The guy was there looking everything over when he asks "Hey, Whats that red and green light for?" :eek: :eek:

seahawk 07-21-2006 05:11 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Forgetabout it go buy your new boat!

Strip Poker 388 07-21-2006 05:30 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Fund congrats on the sale . You have nothing to worry about ,Just think of the dealers and brokers that sell the 100mph plus boats to idiots that never owned a boat before .

My first boat was a New 1989 28 Scarab,I never had a boat before or been over 35MPH in one,I didnt even test drive it, The dealer just wanted the money!!!,He didnt even ask or offer any info on the boat.I was happy with it for 12 years so I guess I did ok :drink:


So Fund what you going to get next??????????

Rob :D

bouyhunter 07-21-2006 05:35 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Fund - you rotten, rotten man.

You did not explain to him what it is going to cost to maintain and feed this money sponge he just acquired. How this new "time" sponge will suck hours and hours out of his regular life. How when this new aqua-sition is broken down, he will feel like his arms are falling off, and he'll be stopping at the repair shop every 4 hrs to check on the progress, only to find it sitting exeactly where it was 4 hrs previous. You didn't explain to him that when you are quoted a length of time for a boat repair, that the time span is Jupiter Standard Time. You didn't explain to him that this could be the beginning of the end of his marriage, subsequently resulting in the loss of his House, his Dually, and eventually his new boat.
I know the effects of this - I've lived it.
You told him the things wrong with the boat - but he didn't understand what that ment. When I bought my first boat, the owner told me it had "extra heavy-duty motor mounts"
I later found out, that meant it had rotten stringers - with really long bolts holding to the wood that was below the rot.

You're like a Crack Dealer on Monroe St. :D
Go Fund!!! Go sell the Rock , baby, Go sell the Rockl!!!

Congrats on the sale - let me know what kinda Hammock you decide on - seems these days, that's more in my budget than a boat.

fund razor 07-21-2006 05:36 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
I have to admit to being relieved that it's gone. Work has been a bear and I still had last year's gas in the dam thing. It was a cool boat. It just had some things that would have deterred a hard core perf guy or an old salt.

Things like OMCs. And two right hand drives.

The relief part is not because I was trying to dump that boat but because they take so much time to really stay on everything, and I was. I did all new exhaust systems and new trailer tires last month.

But these days I don't have the time to run it let alone do the proper upkeep. I definately passed the boat along better than I found it. Big time.

I'll have another one at some point. May or may not be a perf boat.
A good friend has a 311 formula that I would love and he would love me to have... but maybe next year.

fund razor 07-21-2006 05:42 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Hey Tim.... when they built the stadium they moved the crack dealers over to Jefferson Ave. :D

We need to go for a ride on Dave's boat.

I know where it's docked and he probably leaves the keys in it.
Or... we could ask him to take us.

I've already begged rides on cruisers for the weekend. :D
Water withdrawal.

I am going hammock shopping now.
Hoping to find one that's low maintenance. :D

bouyhunter 07-21-2006 05:49 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
Hey Tim.... when they built the stadium they moved the crack dealers over to Jefferson Ave. :D

We need to go for a ride on Dave's boat.

I know where it's docked and he probably leaves the keys in it.
Or... we could ask him to take us.

I've already begged rides on cruisers for the weekend. :D
Water withdrawal.

I am going hammock shopping now.
Hoping to find one that's low maintenance. :D

I hear ya!
I'll give Dave until tommorrow to respond to our multiple requests for a ride on the "flying Condo" - then I'm starting a thread, might be on a less traveled board though - more local to you guys.
I saw Pics from last week where some one else borrowed his boat and managed to have 5-6 topless chicks on it - now I'm a happily married man, but I don't mind a peek from someone else...

Dave - are ya listening??

bouyhunter 07-21-2006 05:51 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
OH, and thanks for the heads-up on Jefferson Ave.

I alway's had to go all the way to Port Clinton to feed my addiction
:evilb:

itilldo 07-21-2006 07:01 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by t500hps
I don't see a problem......one man's tender is another's yacht. You made full disclosure, sleep well tonight!

exactly...we all have to start some where.

PhantomChaos 07-21-2006 07:44 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
My first boat was a 42 Outerlimits wtih twin 1100's, then the second boat was a 46 Skater with twin 1500's....but now I've moved up to the big time and can step away from the "starter-boat" types and have stepped up to a 38 Formula. It doesn't happen overnight.....and it takes time to learn. :D :D :D :evilb: :evilb: :drink:

fund razor 07-21-2006 08:13 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
My first boat was a 42 Outerlimits wtih twin 1100's, then the second boat was a 46 Skater with twin 1500's....but now I've moved up to the big time and can step away from the "starter-boat" types and have stepped up to a 38 Formula. It doesn't happen overnight.....and it takes time to learn. :D :D :D :evilb: :evilb: :drink:

I get it. :D

This deserves it's own thread. The life cycle of a boater.

The new boater buys a smallish boat because he figures that he should start with something sort of manageable. He is having a lot of fun. Boating is cool. He sees the middle boater's boat and says wow. That could be me.
He sells that dam thing and....

The middle boater buys something actually very impressive but requiring a freaking pit crew to operate and a budget bigger than some small countries. He now needs a truck that would pull a 53' box trailer up a mountain. Life begins to suck very deeply for the middle boater. His wife may want to divorce him. He begins to want a divorce from Ms. Boat.

The experienced boater sells that dam thing and buys an open boston whaler or something with an outboard and it fits in the garage. He goes for rides on the middle boater's boat. He buys everybody lunch and is the hero. :D

Bouyhunter and I aren't so much boatless as that far ahead in the learning curve. :D

My next boat will either be:

A pontoon with an outboard,

An airboat,

A little cheap boat with a small block,

some kind of small center console kind of thingy with an outboard,

This one dude's formula 311 (had to slip an offshore in)

or

A smallish older sedan/chalet style cruiser with twin smallblocks and inboards.

If I had a bunch of cash I would consider a small trawler.

fund razor 07-21-2006 08:26 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Is there a TrawlersOnly?

That might be a good thought Steve.

Some of those trawlers are sweet.

I would post a pic but it would cost me like 18 bucks and I am saving up to buy Dave lunch when he gives us a ride on the flying Ramada. I'm buying. :D

BADA BING 07-21-2006 09:03 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
Should I feel bad?

Kind of confused now.

NO, everyone with a boat in the classifieds probably wishes this guy has a big family with uncle's and cousins from coast to coast :D

Think about how many people bought Yugo's back in the day...their out there, don't feel bad for them, they are who they are

sleek1 07-22-2006 12:35 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Fundraiser,
the guy that bought my last boat spoke spanish and gave me two huge stacks of $20's (wonder what he did for a living)? Then as he stood between the bolster seats, he asked if the engine was under where he was standing... almost couldn't hold back the laughter. I showed him where the engine was and he was happy with that. No sea trial. Gotta wonder, it was a great boat and I never had any problems.

bouyhunter 07-22-2006 08:59 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Fund - I understand where you're at with considering something other than a go-fast.
My wife keeps telling me "let's just get something small and easy to handle - just to get back on the water" and I keep squashing that idea. (without letting her know that the thought is actually in the back of my mind)
I was never in the "Big Leagues" either - 25' Baja, single 454.
Yet, I miss that WFO feeling in the worst way. I was one of those guy's that only know's three speeds - idle, no-wake, and WFO.
At one point, we had the Baja, a 26' Wellcraft Cruiser, and a 19' Wellcraft cuddy (all at the same time) - it was nice to have the option of how you felt like running on a given day - man, life has changed for me...

I say - go for the 311, or send me some pic's... :D
But, as you said, I'm back to the dilemma of having to buy a larger truck....
It never ends.

fund razor 07-22-2006 09:42 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Was the 26 foot Wellcraft a 260aft cabin? I had an 86 for a brief moment in time. Kind of partnered with a friend when he was going through hard times and then let him buy me back out when it got better.

He still uses it. Might go beg a ride right now. :D
Heck.... I'll buy lunch. ;)

I got an email from a guy who has my old 1979 Nova210xl. He is considering selling. I am holding back from buying it back. I had repowered it and it ran great.

But I am holding off. He took it up to Canada and there are a lot of used boats between here and there.

You might need to PM Dave.

Or I could call him on his cell.
I could be at his dock in 30 minutes.
How about you Colonel Sanders?

fund razor 07-22-2006 09:51 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
RIDES WANTED:

Experienced skipper now available as passenger.

Key features include:
-I don't move about while you are docking.
-I don't push off of objects while you are departing from the dock.
-I have my own vest.
-I can tie up a boat.
-If you are drinking I can be designated driver.
-I have non-marking shoes and I am not afraid to take them off.
-I am buying lunch.
-I can move your rig while you tie up the boat at the ramp.
-I can tie up your boat while you move your rig.
-I don't bring food, especially chips.
-I know the west end of Lake Erie very well and can navigate.
-I have two AYC yacht club memberships and can get our entire party into any AYC yacht club.
-I am down to 220 lbs, so I am not as much ballast as I used to be.
-I have some gas money.
-Once in a while I am funny.
-I have a large capacity bladder. I can make it to the stop.

Ok Tim, let's see your ride begger resume.

dean51267 07-22-2006 10:01 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
yesterday, while splashing my boat, I saw my old boat being loaded. I had moved the 1930 emblem on it so I knew this was it. It was a 1997'ish Chaparral 1930 SS, nice, small, super little boat. Did everything well, Yahmaha outdrive, 350ci, nice stereo, 53 mph boat, all that stuff, it had a for sales sign in the window....

As it was being loaded I ask if it had the Yamaha drive, he said yes, and I mentioned it used to be mine. He said the owner took it out once, his wife got beat up and scared, and never took it out again. The driver was a friend who was just using it.

When I sold it I told them our lake is fine for a boat that size except on heavy weekends, and then you want to stay i the bays, apparently the guy took it out on memorial day, to the main part of the lake with the house boats and 50' cruisers and got the daylight beat out of him... he should have listened, that is the exact reason I sold it... I got the daylight beat out of me one weekend and two weeks later bought a bigger one...

Anyway, just a human interest story that kind of went along with the thread...

CAP071 07-22-2006 10:16 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
All great info Dean I was just looking at this 5 mins ago for the river, what a coincidence


http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/2/85072302.htm

CigDaze 07-22-2006 10:42 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
ride begger resume.

Hilarious. :D :D

Good stuff, Fund!

offshoredrillin 07-22-2006 12:38 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
RIDES WANTED:

Experienced skipper now available as passenger.

Key features include:
-I don't move about while you are docking.
-I don't push off of objects while you are departing from the dock.
-I have my own vest.
-I can tie up a boat.
-If you are drinking I can be designated driver.
-I have non-marking shoes and I am not afraid to take them off.
-I am buying lunch.
-I can move your rig while you tie up the boat at the ramp.
-I can tie up your boat while you move your rig.
-I don't bring food, especially chips.
-I know the west end of Lake Erie very well and can navigate.
-I have two AYC yacht club memberships and can get our entire party into any AYC yacht club.
-I am down to 220 lbs, so I am not as much ballast as I used to be.
-I have some gas money.
-Once in a while I am funny.
-I have a large capacity bladder. I can make it to the stop.

Ok Tim, let's see your ride begger resume.

you forgot this...answers to the name Gilligan or little buddy and has no problem calling you skipper:evilb:

Chris Sunkin 07-22-2006 01:07 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
You were 100% correct in your actions. The "not many of us left.." comment was at best some nebulous attempt at humor but I would have also taken it as a shot- a cheap shot at that.

You offer something for sale and you don't lie about it. You don't sell it with known but undisclosed defects of significance. Trust me, St. Peter won't be bringing this one up. Anyone that does is WAY out of line.


Now, for a new boat! How 'bout a nice Apache? I'll throw in all the parts AND the tools. Couple of afternoons and you'll be on the water.... trust me ;)

fund razor 07-22-2006 02:59 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
You were 100% correct in your actions. The "not many of us left.." comment was at best some nebulous attempt at humor but I would have also taken it as a shot- a cheap shot at that.

You offer something for sale and you don't lie about it. You don't sell it with known but undisclosed defects of significance. Trust me, St. Peter won't be bringing this one up. Anyone that does is WAY out of line.


Now, for a new boat! How 'bout a nice Apache? I'll throw in all the parts AND the tools. Couple of afternoons and you'll be on the water.... trust me ;)

I can buy a big ole Apache, that would make me a middle boater and I would have to buy a huge truck.

I didn't second guess myself too long. I think that maybe I sounded a little smug before the rest of the story came out.
Didn't mean to. The guy was nice enough. It was a nice break from getting a bunch of crap about the OMCs actually. They do work. Before I bought it I checked with Dubberts in Port Clinton and found out that I could make a nice deal trading those Cobras in for brand new Volvos and the would be come bi-directional (they spin either way I am told) and they would use the same transom assembly cut-out because of the Volvo/OMC joint venture. I like the Volvos in normal hp applications because they shift so smoothly. But the Cobras worked fine and you are never gonna blow one up with a small block. :D

I could get parts 2 miles from my work at the Chris Craft dealer.

The OMC electronic shift assist was funky... and I can't say that I'll miss that.
I haven't heard from him. I assume he is boating.

CBR 07-23-2006 05:20 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
Congrats on seling the boat. As a first time boater (okay the 12 foot inflatable with electric trolling motor that we happily island camped with for years, had a 000000 annual operating budget, hence does not count), I bought my Sonic with twin right rotating Alpha drives....in 2000 used Sonics sold within days of being listed!!!!! This one was the only one I could get, and since I was not on OFFSHOREONLY, I did not realize alphas were &%$# drives. Ended up ripping them out and replacing with Bravos. Junked the carb motors too, replaced with Scorpions. Replaced the gas tanks and just about everything else. Hey, could have just bought a new boat to begin with. <gg>

bouyhunter 07-23-2006 09:30 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
RIDES WANTED:

Experienced skipper now available as passenger.

Key features include:
-I don't move about while you are docking. But, I'll help with lines once properly in dock
-I don't push off of objects while you are departing from the dock. Unless you're screwed, and collision is imminent
-I have my own vest. I have a tuxedo, but I won't wear it on your boat
-I can tie up a boat. I know how to properly fast a vessel
-If you are drinking I can be designated driver. Sorry, I'm not taking the helm, it's your boat, I'll be drinking.
-I have non-marking shoes and I am not afraid to take them off. agreed
-I am buying lunch. I'll buy lunch - unless Fund is there also, then he can buy lunch.
-I can move your rig while you tie up the boat at the ramp. Agreed
-I can tie up your boat while you move your rig. Agreed
-I don't bring food, especially chips. Only Bring Beer (cans of course), and water
-I know the west end of Lake Erie very well and can navigate. Agreed
-I have two AYC yacht club memberships and can get our entire party into any AYC yacht club. Got me beat on this one
-I am down to 220 lbs, so I am not as much ballast as I used to be. I'm 165 soaking wet
-I have some gas money. I have some beer money too.
-Once in a while I am funny. I think I'm funny all the time - maybe you'll get the joke.
-I have a large capacity bladder. I can make it to the stop. I also have a large capacity bladder, but if I can't make it to the stop, I can handle over the side

Ok Tim, let's see your ride begger resume.

Fund, best I could do :D

TEAMBAJA 07-23-2006 10:02 AM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 
I never even met the guy I sold my boat to last fall. His girlfriend stopped by and paid me, and he picked it up the next day while I was at work! Talk about easy! :)

PhantomChaos 07-24-2006 07:49 PM

Re: Do you suppose he is new to boating?
 

Originally Posted by fund razor
RIDES WANTED:

Experienced skipper now available as passenger.

Key features include:
-I don't move about while you are docking.
-I don't push off of objects while you are departing from the dock.
-I have my own vest.
-I can tie up a boat.
-If you are drinking I can be designated driver.
-I have non-marking shoes and I am not afraid to take them off.
-I am buying lunch.
-I can move your rig while you tie up the boat at the ramp.
-I can tie up your boat while you move your rig.
-I don't bring food, especially chips.
-I know the west end of Lake Erie very well and can navigate.
-I have two AYC yacht club memberships and can get our entire party into any AYC yacht club.
-I am down to 220 lbs, so I am not as much ballast as I used to be.
-I have some gas money.
-Once in a while I am funny.
-I have a large capacity bladder. I can make it to the stop.

Ok Tim, let's see your ride begger resume.


Nice.....come on out! Your ride is secured! The Erie knowledge is useless....but we can train you! :D :drink: :drink:


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