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BRADA 08-25-2006 11:54 PM

Project. Newbie Needs Help
 
Hey everyone...This is a great site, seems to be lots of great people.
I'm in need of help with regards to info in hulls. More specifically who made the most reliable hulls in the 30-35' range from the years of 1986 to 1994. I own a custom motorsports shop in Vancouver Canada and we are looking to pick up a hull to start a project to get ready for next year. I have everything at my disposale, but I need some solid advice as to witch direction to head in.

Here are some of the thing we are taking into acount.
The boat will mostly be used in osshore poker runs...
We would like to see 90+ MPH in it...what power train should I start with??
The deck and styling can be completely redesigned if need be, so uglyness isn't an issue

I hope you folks can help me out.
Thanks for your time.
:D

Pantera1 08-26-2006 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BRADA
Hey everyone...This is a great site, seems to be lots of great people.
I'm in need of help with regards to info in hulls. More specifically who made the most reliable hulls in the 30-35' range from the years of 1986 to 1994. I own a custom motorsports shop in Vancouver Canada and we are looking to pick up a hull to start a project to get ready for next year. I have everything at my disposale, but I need some solid advice as to witch direction to head in.

Here are some of the thing we are taking into acount.
The boat will mostly be used in osshore poker runs...
We would like to see 90+ MPH in it...what power train should I start with??
The deck and styling can be completely redesigned if need be, so uglyness isn't an issue

I hope you folks can help me out.
Thanks for your time.
:D

Youve narrowed it down to a million or so boats :chimp:

Chris Sunkin 08-26-2006 07:40 AM

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With the current prices on nice, solid boats, a DIY project will cost you more than a complete boat.

Comanche3Six 08-26-2006 07:47 AM

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Welcome.
Cigarette powerboats

BRADA 08-26-2006 10:51 AM

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Thanks guys,
I know that the job is gonna be pricey...but we are building a boat to showcase my shops abilities. We build custom molds, composite components, CNC milling, Full custom gelcoat and paint.....so on and so on. All i need is a good hull to and powertrain to start with :D :D

X-Rated30 08-26-2006 01:34 PM

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Any Skater in that size range will be easy to get to 90 with (relatively) mild power. V-hull is gonna be a little more difficult. If it was built tough in those years, it is gonna be pretty darn heavy. Maybe a Fountain. :cool:

Tony Montana 08-26-2006 07:32 PM

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http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-11590.html

Here you go

BRADA 08-27-2006 10:54 AM

Re: Project. Newbie Needs Help
 
What do you guys think of SONIC, SCARAB, DONZI and HUSTLER hulls....any good??

JnT 08-27-2006 11:04 AM

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I would go with a Cigarette if you can build some BIG hp motors. Paint it different than the rest of them and grab some attention.
A Skater will be way faster with less power.
Sonic,Scarab,Donzi,and Hustler are all good boats too but the brand recognition of "Cigarette" ,can't be beat.

BRADA 08-27-2006 12:13 PM

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What would be the price range to buy a cigarette that needs a rebuild compared to the afore mentioned makes in the same years...(1986-1994)?

X-Rated30 08-27-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BRADA
What would be the price range to buy a cigarette that needs a rebuild compared to the afore mentioned makes in the same years...(1986-1994)?

For a Cig of that age, the hull won't be the expense -- it will be the price of the engines it will take to get that lead sled to go 90 that will get ya. :cool:

cosmic12 08-27-2006 01:57 PM

Re: Project. Newbie Needs Help
 
how about this, 1990 35 boat is better than new. will run 85mph all day with the power thats in it. 24 degree bottom and its like a tank in the rough.

Stormrider 08-27-2006 02:38 PM

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33 powerplay w/ twin 750s will do it.
Great Hull.
Older 35cafe racer?
32 hustler would be good too.

BRADA 08-27-2006 02:41 PM

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What's a Fountain like that worth.. (man I hate those front beaks) :p

jeff32 08-27-2006 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BRADA
What's a Fountain like that worth.. (man I hate those front beaks) :p

would'nt you be looking at the Fountain 40 for sale in your area that used to belong to my friend (indy car racer) Greg Moore ?

cosmic12 08-27-2006 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BRADA
What's a Fountain like that worth.. (man I hate those front beaks) :p

tried to PM you but I guess you can't get'em. If you are a glass man cut it off {the beak I mean} and really confuse"em.

BRADA 08-27-2006 06:42 PM

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Hey thanks for the reply.
I don't know why I don't get PM's. Yeah , I would cut that thing of for sure. We plan to build a new (redesigned) deck and interior structure using only composites (Prepreg/vacuum formed). This thing will look pretty awesome. :D

cosmic12 08-27-2006 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BRADA
Hey thanks for the reply.
I don't know why I don't get PM's. Yeah , I would cut that thing of for sure. We plan to build a new (redesigned) deck and interior structure using only composites (Prepreg/vacuum formed). This thing will look pretty awesome. :D

get me an e-mail address I can send you pics if you want. this boat is perfect!!!

BRADA 08-28-2006 12:15 AM

Re: Project. Newbie Needs Help
 
Het Cosmic.
You can reach me at [email protected] . Thanks

Chris Sunkin 08-28-2006 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmic12
tried to PM you but I guess you can't get'em. If you are a glass man cut it off {the beak I mean} and really confuse"em.

If you cut the beak off a Fountain, I'll buy the beak.

jryan26 08-28-2006 07:07 AM

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Big Scotty

BRADA 08-28-2006 10:23 AM

Re: Project. Newbie Needs Help
 
No sweat. I'll even mail it to ya. What are you gonna put it on??? :D

Sydwayz 08-28-2006 10:28 AM

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A Sonic is a very forgiving hull, and lets you make a few mistakes that the boat will make up for. I know this first hand.

In order to recieve PMs, you need to upgrade to a Gold or Platinum member of the site.

dreamer 08-28-2006 11:01 AM

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how about your nuts getting a 90+ mph boat for poker runs as ur 1st boat... and after reading some of ur questions i know im right... u dont know the answers... u dont get a 90+ mph poker run boat

come on oso lets give REAL advice... hell there may not be any poker runs next year :(

Pantera1 08-28-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamer
how about your nuts getting a 90+ mph boat for poker runs as ur 1st boat... and after reading some of questions i know im right...

come on oso lets give REAL advice... hell there may not be any poker runs next year :(

My first real boat was a 18 foot sidewinder jet with an LS6 at about 550 HP .. Then I bought a 17 foot hydrostream that went 92 .. Here I am 40 years old, still driving a fast boat, never went to Tres school etc.. You CAN learn from cautious experience .. Granted times have changed and I wouldnt want everyone to have a 90 mph boat but some may qualify :drink:

BRADA 08-28-2006 09:23 PM

Re: Project. Newbie Needs Help
 
I appreciate all your guys advice/ concerns. I have never owned a boat myself, but I have spent a long time in boats ,more specifically in offshore type situations. I have been behind the wheel of many boats over the last 7 years, 19' up to 30' ....and in the Vancouver rough , it's plain to see that a longer hull will do you better. I also have close friends who are avid boaters, there to make sure that I don't screw my self up, It's just that high end street custom machines are my specialty....we are just expanding. I ask for your help because this would be my first boat, and I would like to get the best hull possible. This boat would serve several purposes....for showcasing our work, for cruising around and for poker runs. There is nothing impossible about any situation, we build impossible jobs all the time...But, I'm not affraid to ask for proffesional advice when it's not my fotray. I can go buy a high end boat, but we want to build one.
So thanks again and keep the advice coming

Pantera1 08-29-2006 11:01 AM

Re: Project. Newbie Needs Help
 
If money is no object id look at something like this
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-10931.html

Waterboy123 08-29-2006 03:24 PM

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Im sure that was the boat that sold on ebay for around $28k, I was outbid at the last minute...

BRADA 08-29-2006 09:26 PM

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Yeah , I think I've seen that hull before in my internet travels as well. What sort of reputation do those boats have???


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