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Mark,
Any new info on the new 28 I/O ? Which motor did it get and how did it run ? Pics would be great !

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Hi;
The TUFF 28 with the first I/O got pushed back as recent demand for the TUFF 21 came out of no where.
Gauges are are in, mostly wired. We tooled new front seat shells for more of that MTI look. So it needs upholstery and the motor installed. 525 would be my choice. The big part left is to style the I/O hatch around the exhaust pipes, which will exit through the hatch.
I may miss the season here for the first run and may go south for the maiden voyage.

Mark

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Nice boat. When you get the 28 finished I would suggest a little offshore racing to get exposure and prove your hull can run w/ the big dogs!

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I think you are right about that. But I would need to build one with different controls layout for competition. Let me get this one dialed in and see how the balance is and then we will see about a raceboat.

Thanks
Mark

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Awesome. OPA is near you and a great bunch of guy's. P-Class racing would be perfect for your new boat!

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Thanks Mark. I look forward to the finished product. Will there be any cabin type finishing under the deck ( if the customer chooses) ? Is the red boat for a customer or just for development ?
Joker congrats on your Victory last weekend !

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I like the "P" Class racing for what it is but had F-1 in mind for his new 28. I read his history and "P" Class is not his cup of tea. Just my .02 cents.

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CMC

The standard set-up under the deck is empty, only a carpet up to the front. This is my Vee bottom version of a 28 Skater.

The red boat needs to go to the Toronto boatshow, other than that, it is available.

Mark

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I just found this post about the Tuff 28, cool to see it here.

Ya P class racing..... it to me is bracket racing...... meaning no racing at all.
Joker, you should research Mark from Tuff...... he can walk the walk, and raced when racing was real, and in rough water.

RT

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Offshore Racing is real now. I saw his past racing . Get the 28 in Factory 1 or P-Class and go racing , period. Activator , Kryptonite , Joker , Pantera , Super Boat , Velocity and many others are ready. Matter of fact I'm building a brand new F1 Boat now. It's not going to a boat show , it's going racing!

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Mark took me for a ride in the 28 outboard this summer and it was awesome. The thing got my heart pumping yet didn't scare Dawn in the backseat. That's all Mark has to do to sell these boats: get you in one on a demo. Then you're done!
-Peter
By the way, yes, that man can drive a boat.

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that boat is pucking awsome remindes me of my mag only a lot cleaner, that deck is flawless....Post more pics .you are not getting the attention you deserve.................sweet boat man.

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very nice

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My situation has not changed, Orders of the TUFF 21 are being worked on and the TUFF 28 must wait, although my anticipation to get results on the I/O are unbearable. I have just finished the I/O hatch plug. Trying to keep it low, sleek and flowing with the rest of the boat has been enjoyable.

Just imagine this blue TUFF 28 without the motors and a contoured hatch with the exhaust tubes coming out through the back of the hatch.

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Those tuffs are sick!! How much for a base boat roughly?

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Beautiful boat. Not a copy at all, but similar feel to the 27' Excalibur. Love it. How would this boat go with twin 200's, about 75?

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I saw the Tuff 28 hull at the Toronto show and was very impressed. If the I/O version sits in the water the same way as it does with the outboard version, I'll be drooling all over my keyboard! :drink:

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Tuff:

Sorry if I came over harsh. People(not you) sitting behind computers talking this , that , etc drives me crazy. I like your boat , nice piece. I raced and won the Ontario Offshore Challenge in Toronto back in 1999 - F1. I wished some of your fans could of been riding in the back seat - haha. Good luck!

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When we designed the TUFF28 it became quite apparent that our aerodynamic concerns and targets were already considered by the famous builders of the past. The deck line for example has a curve that produces natural lift in the center of the deck at 'attack posture'. This distinctive line showed up on the Arrnow boats because, as I'm told, two aeronautical engineers penciled out the Magnum for Don, and must have been pursuing similar goals. So, the old school look is not by accident.

We should not talk numbers on here, I'd be glad to respond to costs if you could e-mail to the 'Contact' link on the TUFF site.

Twin 200's... How fast with twin 200s, I don't know, I could guess at it, the calculator says 81mph, might be a little high but I could say 75mph anytime.

Hey Joker, it sounds like you like the rough water better than the fast flat water, if so than I'm with you. I know what you mean, when you see the race on video it does not look that bad, but like you said ' you should have seen it in the boat'.

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I wonder how the 28' will do in the rough water. I noticed from some pics on the Tuff site that there is a significant pad down the center of the boat. Any ideas?

Randy

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Rough water... It's not that simple. The biggest contributing factor for rough water in a Vee is 'straight line keel length' to be able to span the waves. Other things like a sharp entry vee to part the water, weight and dead-rise have more of an effect on how the boat feels in the rough. The TUFF 28 and 21 are designed to ride more like a cat, up high, not falling into the depth of the waves but more on or over the top. When the water gets really big than the sharp entry vee should smoothen out the frontal assaults. At this point a heavy boat 'feels' better but does not necessarily go faster. Also an extremely rigid hull (like 3/4 in vacuum bagged balsa core) make the ride 'feel' better.

You start to trade off comfort for more performance at some point. To me, the fastest rough water boat for it's length is the one with the longest straight keel, the lightest and very strong and with the perfect balance. This kind of boat will require the greatest amount of skill to operate and is not for everyone.

So the answer... how is the TUFF 28 in the rough... If I did my job than it's up to the driver how good it is.

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It should run good in any conditions , dry too - haha. Welcome to OSO Tuff!

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Thanks Tuff. And I forgot to ask what is the deadrise of the 28? Do you have a number where I can reach you? Do you have hours over the weekend? A little tough to call 9-5 during work week?

Thanks.

Randy

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Yeah,... Someone told me that when they looked for me on the web all they found was those fine aluminum boats and proceeded to buy else where.
So for the record I'm " TUFFmarine.com " on the web and 'TUFFboat' on OSO. Thanks for pointing that out Joker.

rtaylor, Call me 519-240-9010 anytime during the day, weekend too.