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mopower 09-25-2006 06:29 PM

engine question
 
What do you think of a 665 cu.in.NA bbc single carb, hyd. roller cam poker run engine that makes around a 1000 hp @ 5700 rpm on pump gas with a 1 year warranty? Would there be a market for something like this?

el indio 09-25-2006 06:44 PM

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1 year warranty with unlimited hours?

mopower 09-25-2006 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by el indio
1 year warranty with unlimited hours?


It would probably have a predetermined number of hours.

JCPERF 09-25-2006 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mopower
What do you think of a 665 cu.in.NA bbc single carb, hyd. roller cam poker run engine that makes around a 1000 hp @ 5700 rpm on pump gas with a 1 year warranty? Would there be a market for something like this?

What heads?

69cst 09-25-2006 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mopower
What do you think of a 665 cu.in.NA bbc single carb, hyd. roller cam poker run engine that makes around a 1000 hp @ 5700 rpm on pump gas with a 1 year warranty? Would there be a market for something like this?

Pump gas like 87 or 93, most pumps on the water are 87-89 octane.

Would standard accesories bolt up ie p/s pump, alt, off the self manifolds (imcos) or would you need custom made headers.

What heads? they would have to be large enough to support that kind of air flow to make 1000hp.

What deck height on the blocks. would they bolt in where 454's/502's came out.

What kind of upgrades on the drives would be required?

Would maintence items be readily available, plugs, ignition parts, filters or would they all be custom made.

Sorry for all the ??'s

And how much $$$

James

DrNautica 09-25-2006 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mopower
What do you think of a 665 cu.in.NA bbc single carb, hyd. roller cam poker run engine that makes around a 1000 hp @ 5700 rpm on pump gas with a 1 year warranty? Would there be a market for something like this?



How much???

Griff 09-26-2006 01:01 AM

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I think the market would depend on the price and reputation of the builder to stand behind the engine.

SB 09-26-2006 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JCPERF
What heads?

I second this question.

1.5hp per cid by 5700rpm naturally aspirated is no easy feat for any engine, especially without major compression.

Almost forgot - Yes, I'm sure there would be a market. There are a lot of 'depends' though, that haven't been mentioned.

mopower 09-26-2006 05:20 PM

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[QUOTE=69cst]Pump gas like 87 or 93, most pumps on the water are 87-89 octane.
efi-89 octane.....carb.91 octane

Would standard accesories bolt up ie p/s pump, alt, off the self manifolds (imcos) or would you need custom made headers.
all acc. will bolt on....you can use imcos but this will hurt power over stainless tube headers.

What heads? they would have to be large enough to support that kind of air flow to make 1000hp.
heads are custom big chief castings

What deck height on the blocks. would they bolt in where 454's/502's came out.
depends on where drive centerlines are. block height is 10.650


What kind of upgrades on the drives would be required?
speedmaster #6 or arnesons' to be safe.....people have used others....your disgression.

Would maintence items be readily available, plugs, ignition parts, filters or would they all be custom made.
all readily available parts, nothing custom.

Sorry for all the ??'s

And how much $$$
upper 40's with upgrades available...aluminum block,titanium connecting rods etc.

James[/QUOTE

hopefully this will help.....thanks for asking.

mopower 09-26-2006 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JCPERF
What heads?

custom big chief castings

mopower 09-26-2006 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SB
I second this question.

1.5hp per cid by 5700rpm naturally aspirated is no easy feat for any engine, especially without major compression.

Almost forgot - Yes, I'm sure there would be a market. There are a lot of 'depends' though, that haven't been mentioned.

with the correct combination of parts this is obtainable and a very reliable engine.

bidpro 09-26-2006 06:10 PM

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The pricing is competative, what is the name of the Builder and how many are up and running, or is this a new proposal?

What type of valve train?.

Gregg Reichman

f311fr1 09-26-2006 06:52 PM

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How about a detuned EFI version in the 850 HP range for #3 & 5 drives?

SB 09-26-2006 07:09 PM

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So, Cal, does this mean we are comming out of retirement ? Are you going to be involved ? :D

mopower 09-26-2006 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SB
So, Cal, does this mean we are comming out of retirement ? Are you going to be involved ? :D


Well , perhaps.
First , I don't want to break any rules and turn this into and advertisement. There is nothing set in stone as of yet but it is looking pretty good from the reserach that's been done so far. The question was posted just to put out some feelers to see if it would be worth a rather large investment to build a few of these and even bigger inch marine engines (over 800 Cu In). Probably the most difficult part would be , due to the tall deck height and the Big Chief heads , width could be a problem unless it was a cat or a staggered deep v.
Next comes the "drive" problem. #6's or Arnesons would almost be a "Must".
The idea behind it is the simplicity and reliability of a naturally aspirated engine. Build it BIG to make power and not squeeze more power out of less as it reduces the reliability.
Thanks for all the responses :D

mopower 09-26-2006 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bidpro
The pricing is competative, what is the name of the Builder and how many are up and running, or is this a new proposal?

What type of valve train?.

Gregg Reichman

This is still a fact finding stage and "new proposal" although the design of the engine and parts availability has all been reseached and pretty much finalized.
Valve train????Jesel

mopower 09-26-2006 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by f311fr1
How about a detuned EFI version in the 850 HP range for #3 & 5 drives?

That could probably be arranged.

Elite Marine 09-26-2006 08:41 PM

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CMI Big Tubes are up to the task. Also I believe that most XR drive boats would see a distinct advantage to upgrade to a Konrad Ace for this application.

As you get serious Mopower, keep in touch, I'd like to offer you some very nice package deals.

I think you're on to something that is currently not available and seems to be the direction alot of the Poker Run crowd is headed.

Good luck!!

Kirk

mopower 09-27-2006 08:33 AM

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Thanks Kirk , we'll see what the next few weeks bring

BBB725 09-27-2006 09:23 AM

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