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mikebrls 10-19-2006 08:38 PM

Any Benifit To Coast Guard Doc,
 
What Are The Benifits To Having Your Boat Coast Guard Documented.

Thank's
Mike

Rippem 10-19-2006 08:51 PM

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the bank can take it back anywhere with minimal hassle :D

mwdill 10-19-2006 08:55 PM

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the local authorities do not hassle you that much :D:

offshoredrillin 10-19-2006 08:58 PM

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only 10 bucks, every other year:D

pm203 10-19-2006 09:10 PM

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You don,t have to put boat reg numbers on the side.

mikebrls 10-19-2006 10:48 PM

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Thank's

NJgr8ful 10-19-2006 10:57 PM

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Your boat can be commandeered at any given moment to assist in official military activities :D :cool: :D :eek: and the number on the side thingy too :D :drink:

J.B. Marshall 10-20-2006 07:38 AM

Re: Any Benifit To Coast Guard Doc,
 

Originally Posted by pm203
You don,t have to put boat reg numbers on the side.


I do not believe that is correct, you must register the boat in your home state and apply the reg no#'s. I was told this by the Sheffi' depts this summer. :rolleyes:

Ted G 10-20-2006 07:39 AM

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If it's documented, you have to take Capo and his four CG buddies on at least one booze cruise per year as part of a new cooler inspection program recently instituted :D :drink: :evilb:

Ted G 10-20-2006 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by J.B. Marshall
I do not believe that is correct, you must register the boat in your home state and apply the reg no#'s. I was told this by the Sheffi' depts this summer. :rolleyes:

I'm sure different states have different laws, in MD we just have to put a small reg sticker on, but no state numbers.

boatman22 10-20-2006 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by insptech
I'm sure different states have different laws, in MD we just have to put a small reg sticker on, but no state numbers.

Same here in texas, just a small sticker.

KNOT-RIGHT 10-20-2006 07:53 AM

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Small sticker here in Rhode Island aswell.


I have noticed you get more attention. Due to the fact
that most boats have the numbers.

Some harbour masters Say. " I take it your boat is documented".


I have to shut engines down and remove headsets
just to hear what there asking. :rolleyes:

But, usualy thats one less ya have to answer to again.

RedDog382 10-20-2006 07:57 AM

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Ohio also requires small registration sticker. No OH numbers. Still must pay sales tax, and they WILL find you if you don't.

mwdill 10-20-2006 08:08 AM

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Va, no numbers, no stickers, just your doc number somewhere on the hull, i have mine inside the engine compartment

bcschoe 10-20-2006 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by J.B. Marshall
I do not believe that is correct, you must register the boat in your home state and apply the reg no#'s. I was told this by the Sheffi' depts this summer. :rolleyes:

The sheriff is wrong. State Law is derived from federal law. Each state must follow 33 CFR part 173 specifically 173.33 registration numbers shall be removed when a vessel is documented.



The federal boating safety money given to each state is based upon vessel registrations; therefore documented boats may be registered with the state but shall not display registration numbers hence the sticker only.



hpoffshore 10-20-2006 08:54 AM

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You are also required to display a vessel name & hailing port.

Steve H 10-20-2006 09:32 AM

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I put the state #'s on anyway. Many local law officials don't know anything about a"Documented Vessel" and will stop you anyway. I got tired of explaining it. Even though it is explained on the back to the license sticker when you peel it off!

Dock Holiday 10-20-2006 09:42 AM

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North Carolina

No Stickers
No Numbers
No Hassle

BZ 10-20-2006 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by insptech
I'm sure different states have different laws, in MD we just have to put a small reg sticker on, but no state numbers.

same for Il.

KNOT-RIGHT 10-20-2006 10:10 AM

Re: Any Benifit To Coast Guard Doc,
 

Originally Posted by bcschoe
The sheriff is wrong. State Law is derived from federal law. Each state must follow 33 CFR part 173 specifically 173.33 registration numbers shall be removed when a vessel is documented.



The federal boating safety money given to each state is based upon vessel registrations; therefore documented boats may be registered with the state but shall not display registration numbers hence the sticker only.




I agree to this. However, Most Harbour masters up here
would take it the wrong way if I tried the education approach.

Better to yes sir no sir. Have a great day.

Rippem 10-20-2006 10:18 AM

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never been looked at twice in NY. I display reg sticker only on hullside, name and port stern. The numbers mean nothing to law/state. If you've got a good color/good date reggie on the hullside they know it's registered in order to get one, or more importantly that you fed the state $$ machine.

that's all they give a sh!t about. :rolleyes:

HotPursuit 10-20-2006 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bcschoe
The sheriff is wrong. State Law is derived from federal law. Each state must follow 33 CFR part 173 specifically 173.33 registration numbers shall be removed when a vessel is documented.



The federal boating safety money given to each state is based upon vessel registrations; therefore documented boats may be registered with the state but shall not display registration numbers hence the sticker only.


That is correct.
Just registered with Midwest documentation, Drew Davis has
been great to work with and explained in detail.Give um a call
I don't have the # with me but they have a web site.

hammer01 10-20-2006 11:23 AM

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the way i was told is that as long as you are not operating in any state's waters for more than 60 consecutive days, you do not have to be registered in that state, i.e. state numbers or stickers. this is the case for il and mo but you will get hassled a lot more even if you do display name and hailing port on the stern of the boat. the documentation aspect allows you to not have to pay sales tax, so this is the benefit to answer your question. i went ahead and paid the "in-lieu-of-tax" for missouri just so i could display the sticker and not get hassled(without sticker on old boat i was stopped 7 times in 10 days with just doc. info on stern of boat). some states can register your boat with no in-lieu-of-tax such as delaware still i believe. those that trailer your boats, do not have to be registered in any state to be documented and be legal. this was as of last year and i believe to still be accurate.

ratman 10-20-2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT
I agree to this. However, Most Harbour masters up here
would take it the wrong way if I tried the education approach.

Better to yes sir no sir. Have a great day.

so what, now you're a turn the other cheek kinds a guy :D

Montauk Crossbow 10-20-2006 12:57 PM

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Same here in NY no numbers only a sticker,but the sales tax people came by and didnt see the little sticker,send me a nasty letter,then had to produce sales tax reciept to get them off my back :eek:

Rippem 10-20-2006 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hammer01
you will get hassled a lot more even if you do display name and hailing port on the stern of the boat. the documentation aspect allows you to not have to pay sales tax.

wrong and wrong.

there are only a couple of states left where you can get by without paying full blown sales tax. MO. and Dl. being two of them.

the other half of the legal terms of documentation other than the number permanently attached to the hull..
Is that name and hailing port are REQUIRED to be displayed on the boat!!!
in the other 45 states or whatever, they will catch up to you on the tax!

Go ahead...pay no tax for a state reg. sticker AND display no name with hailing port and see how many times the patrol passes you by! That is absolute to the man you're "skipping out"!
here in NY they (the state) actually does field audits, scouting marinas looking for unpaid tax! You buy a slip for the season and as far as the states concerned you intend to use the boat in that state for more than 60 days a year. You could argue that, but you won't win!
I've seen it being done more than once and have myself 7 or 8 years ago gotten a letter from Albany to send in proof of tax paid, and I had a valid NY reggie and numbers on the boat!

Russian roulette for you if you think it's free ride.

Rippem 10-20-2006 01:22 PM

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another aspect of little importance to the rest of you is that you are NOT going to Canada and staying more than the 20 minutes it takes to call customs without a state registration or documentation number. I'd hate to have the mounties walk down the dock and call me on not having a name/port displayed on my documented vessel, walk all over my boat with thier black shoe polish and spend an hour going over my paperwork!

Or our own coast guard or border patrol in our own waters for that matter!

pm203 10-20-2006 01:29 PM

Re: Any Benifit To Coast Guard Doc,
 

Originally Posted by J.B. Marshall
I do not believe that is correct, you must register the boat in your home state and apply the reg no#'s. I was told this by the Sheffi' depts this summer. :rolleyes:

Of course you still have to register it with the state. The good part is that you don,t have to put 5 or 6 ugly looking numbers on the front side of the hull.

9 Lives 10-20-2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NJgr8ful
Your boat can be commandeered at any given moment to assist in official military activities :D :cool: :D :eek: and the number on the side thingy too :D :drink:

That'd be fine with me.

I've always wanted a 50 cal. machine gun mounted up on the deck of my hotrod anyways , just to take care of all the pecker-knats on PWC's at LOTO.

(and the no numbers on the side thingy, but State registration sticker every 3 years here in MO.)

Boostable 10-20-2006 01:50 PM

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Just a sticker here in Florida. No numbers and have never been stopped for not having them.

hammer01 10-20-2006 02:22 PM

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[QUOTE=Rippem]wrong and wrong.

there are only a couple of states left where you can get by without paying full blown sales tax. MO. and Dl. being two of them.

the other half of the legal terms of documentation other than the number permanently attached to the hull..
Is that name and hailing port are REQUIRED to be displayed on the boat!!!
in the other 45 states or whatever, they will catch up to you on the tax!

Go ahead...pay no tax for a state reg. sticker AND display no name with hailing port and see how many times the patrol passes you by! That is absolute to the man you're "skipping out"!
here in NY they (the state) actually does field audits, scouting marinas looking for unpaid tax! You buy a slip for the season and as far as the states concerned you intend to use the boat in that state for more than 60 days a year. You could argue that, but you won't win!
I've seen it being done more than once and have myself 7 or 8 years ago gotten a letter from Albany to send in proof of tax paid, and I had a valid NY reggie and numbers on the boat!

Russian roulette for you if you think it's free ride.[/QUOTE


please read my post again. i stated that you do not have to have registration numbers and letters if you are not operating on those waters for more than 60 consecutive days. if you are documented, you have to have name and hailing port on the stern of the boat and documentation number permanently afixed somewhere on the boat(usually the numbers or number plaque mounted). if you are permanently mooring or docked in a marina for more than 60 days, they typically will require registration in the state where that marina resides. i mentioned that it does not typically apply if you trailer your boats. yes you can get around the sales tax and not have to be registered in your state if you trailer, but the cost as i stated before is that they tend to stop you to request to see registration. i carried a waterproof folder that had my doc. certificate, all my insurance info, the page from the missouri water patrol manual that verified not having to have reg. numbers on my boat, and believe it or not, i had an officer from missouri water patrol fax me a letter stating i was correct that was also in there. i included this because the missouri patrol on loto is often times just auxilliary officers and they often times did not know this. anyway, paying the in-lieu-of tax in missouri was 3 or 4k and i paid it the last time just to not be hassled.

Rippem 10-20-2006 02:32 PM

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sorry I got your meaning somewhat out of context.

regardless, the point is unless your going to play hide and seek on a trailer, not rent a slip, enjoy being hassled, bla, bla, bla...

your gonna pay some tax somewhere. Documentation doesn't "get you out of paying tax"

some tax...somewhere.

Macklin 10-21-2006 08:11 AM

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Rippem, in VA, if the boat is documented you do not have to register it with the DGIF; therefore, you do not have to pay sales tax. Saved me several grand. Also I am not required to have any State stickers or numbers on the boat, which is even better. AND, annual renewal with the CG is free. Can't beat that!

There are so many documented boats around these parts there is no hassle factor either. :cool:

KNOT-RIGHT 10-21-2006 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ratman
so what, now you're a turn the other cheek
kinds a guy :D





I told him Ratman said it was alright.

He said "oh yeah the dude thats working on mich lite"

I replied "Everyone knows the Ratman"


Are ya gonna paint some rainbows on the side of that
Boat?


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