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Old 01-13-2007, 03:44 PM
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no squirrel's here... prefect stable... like its on rails... ITs a shame some people are so hard headed.
And running negative trim offcourse

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Old 01-13-2007, 03:54 PM
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The new Skaters at the factory are incredible. The one's with Arnesons are awesome. That new 46 is Sweet.
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I was just told yesterday that the Arneson's on a Nortech cat runs flatter and handles better than the #6. There was no porpoising at all. This was on a Yanmar 440 36 that went 96 mph. On my next project Im thinking of the 485's and ligher layup, possibly 102..Jeff
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:01 PM
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Howabout waiting a bit when Marintech(?) gets their Duramax mapped...are talking about 500+ diesel power...
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:14 PM
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Only 500?

I was told last week 700-750 is what they are pushing for. I don't know how reliable this will be, but 850 ish lbs and 700 hp is a winner.

That would be some 36% more torque than a 525 makes.
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Howabout waiting a bit when Marintech(?) gets their Duramax mapped...are talking about 500+ diesel power...

Keep us informed, thanks. Jeff
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:20 AM
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Rik you have data from a few days later than me then, the baseline was according to them 500 plus before mapping. (thinking of Spanking Mercs 525 royally at LEAST I think)

HotRod ran an article also about Gale Banks own version for land use..650hp with an aftermarket steel crank Carillos New intakes and Twin Turbos...check yourself.
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Also donīt count the cummins inline Six out or when going for Truly big boats (46+) think Mack Trucks 4valve monster (Twice the displacement of a Cummins 5.9 thou..)

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ITs a shame some people are so hard headed.
That truly is a Shame I agree but this is not personal to anyone on this thread.

Fanatiscm is the sincerest form of lack of knowledge one engineer told me once....
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Only 500?

850ish lbs and 700 hp is a winner.

That would be some 36% more torque than a 525 makes.
also that would be on AT Least equal level with a 750hp blowerBB with 1000ftlbs with SSM6īs if combined with Surface drives or do your opinion differ Rik?
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T2x, you obviously know a thing or two

OK, that's putting it mildly. But now you've got me really confused because your level of knowledge makes it even harder for me to understand your preference for the #6 over Arnesons.

Or is it that you believe that not all surface drives are created equal and that ASD is perhaps not the best incarnation of the concept?
Sorry to jump back into this one...... it is, after all, an Arneson commercial. , but Super Termoli asks a couple of good questions.

1. I prefer the Mercruiser drive because contrary to the earlier babble on here, you can.... with the MC ...easily..obtain a dead level shaft angle that is absolutely parallel to the bottom of the boat at shaft heights starting level with, above, or below the boat's bottom. You cannot do this with an Arneson. This feature allows you to trim positively or negatively...... the Arneson allows only variations of negative trim. That is a limiting factor IMHO. The sterndrive is also more compact and responsive in low speed turning/docking, etc. and much more stable due to the tremendous reduction in leverage on the various pivot points.

2. I believe that a fixed surface drive is far superior to a steerable drive........ but, in fact I prefer a direct surfaced inboard drive (no external u-joint) which is what we developed for the big JJ. This allowed us to lower the "x" dimension to the extent that we achieved the desireable level shaft angle, position the thrust bearing at the transom and reduce the parasitic drive train power loss inherent in a sterndrive...(Its only true drawback). Subsequent developments in dry sumping have reduced that advantage significantly. (Thanks to Wisemann's development work with the Victory team and Mercury's later revisions).

Bottom line, if I'm going for a max horsepower, max speed project (180 + Mph)...turbines or diesels.... I'd look at a fixed surface drive. Everything else...normal high performance...I'd stick with the Mercruiser.

Rube Goldberg would obviously disagree.

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