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TeamSaris 10-25-2006 08:33 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by cosmic12
what did they change? engine room bigger/ cockpit way smaller or is the cabin now a 29 cabin?

:evilb: With the staggerds. :evilb:

John W. Blake 10-25-2006 08:34 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by SLANDREW
As per tread#31 WOT 66MPH the comepititors speed was 42 MPH and Fountain claims better range which they slowed down boat to acheive :D


exactly what we were getting at........if the "competitor's" top speed was only 42mph then Fountain needs to pick another competitor.....

cosmic12 10-25-2006 08:35 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by fast fun 2
:evilb: With the staggerds. :evilb:

exactly :evilb:

TeamSaris 10-25-2006 08:41 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by cosmic12
exactly :evilb:

:drink:

rainmn 10-25-2006 09:17 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
No the Donzi is compared to the 38LX Fountain. This new Fountain is different than that.

So what's a comparable boat then? Surely there is a "competitor" who has something faster than 42 mph with comparable power. That's like Porsche demonstrating how fast the new 911 is by putting it up against a Honda Civic. :D
I did try to find pictures of this new 38 SFC on Fountain's site, but it's not working.

X-Rated30 10-25-2006 09:25 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by KiloKat
Does anybody know how fast a new 36' Skater is with 525s?

Troublemaker. :D

SHARKEY-IMAGES 10-25-2006 09:29 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by cosmic12
what did they change? engine room bigger/ cockpit way smaller or is the cabin now a 32 cabin?

Perhaps a larger anchor locker?

Congrats on the numbers! Providing they indeed were only 525hp.

Surely they can dial in a boat to do that. And yes people can be on the boat to witness the speed. But who is actually going to ask them to prove that they are stock 525's ? :rolleyes:

No one....

Otherwise.....cool thread..... :drink:

FeverMike 10-25-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Brad
I found an old boating magazine the other day that had a test on a 2001 35, top speed with 500EFI's was 86. That quite an improvement.

I remember that test. Also don't forget the Merc 525's are putting out a lot more power than 525. The HP500's were only 470 + or-10% at the prop. If the engines are stock like are supose to be then I can only figure the boat had health 525's, lighter weight than the 1st 35 Lightning, better aerodynamics, better drives and x dim and hull is improved and most liely Hering props.

ToTheMax 10-25-2006 11:16 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
I remember that test. Also don't forget the Merc 525's are putting out a lot more power than 525. The HP500's were only 470 + or-10% at the prop. If the engines are stock like are supose to be then I can only figure the boat had health 525's, lighter weight than the 1st 35 Lightning, better aerodynamics, better drives and x dim and hull is improved and most liely Hering props.

How much more power are they putting out? Are they 525 at the prop or at the crankshaft?

dykstra 10-25-2006 11:29 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
impressive :drink:

Back4More 10-26-2006 02:43 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by cosmic12
what did they change? engine room bigger/ cockpit way smaller or is the cabin now a 32 cabin?

Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Test and tune...Ok, good enough for this year. :rolleyes:

PurpleStuff 10-26-2006 05:54 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by rainmn
So what's a comparable boat then? Surely there is a "competitor" who has something faster than 42 mph with comparable power. That's like Porsche demonstrating how fast the new 911 is by putting it up against a Honda Civic. :D
I did try to find pictures of this new 38 SFC on Fountain's site, but it's not working.

Porsche like Fountain, cant argue with that!

ActiveFun 10-26-2006 09:27 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
A 35 with Staggered motors? How small is the cockpit? Anyone have a pic?

Outdrive1 10-26-2006 09:48 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
If the boat will run 103 with 525's and Bravo's what would it run with 600's and #6's? If you could still get over a hundred and not have to replace the drives every other season that would be something. I know it's got to have a super high x dim. to it, so it must be hard to plane out and even harder on the drives.

Sea-Dated 10-26-2006 10:06 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
Fountain raises the bar again. I love hearing news like this. It does good for the advancement of all of the powerboats we so love. The only thing that frustrates me is how so many question the facts. If OL or Cig made the same claim then there would be nothing but congrats from everyone. If Fountain does it then it must have been rigged, or not stock engines. Come on people, just be happy for them for their accomplishments.

TeamSaris 10-26-2006 03:57 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
Interesting the 2002 35 with our 700 whipple motors wont go 100...

Strip Poker 388 10-26-2006 05:01 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by fast fun 2
Interesting the 2002 35 with our 700 whipple motors wont go 100...

somethings wrong then:eek:

Back4More 10-26-2006 05:11 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
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Originally Posted by ActiveFun
A 35 with Staggered motors? How small is the cockpit? Anyone have a pic?

Wasn't this that 35....?

Downtown42 10-26-2006 05:21 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
I've heard that if they don't dyno at 540 they tear them down and try again.

Strip Poker 388 10-26-2006 05:39 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Downtown42
I've heard that if they don't dyno at 540 they tear them down and try again.

I have heard some of the better ones around 565hp :drink:


I know of one that dynoed 580 something that was modifided :eek:

Panther 10-26-2006 07:01 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
I know of one that dynoed 580 something that was modifided :eek:

Whoooops....

10x 10-26-2006 07:22 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
I've been at Mercury Racing up in Fondulac Wisc, while they were running some of the 525's and all the #'s I seen were between 530-540 hp. And that was this spring.

Btw, that 35 that was run on that test run, was the "first" time the boat was in the water.

ToTheMax 10-26-2006 07:22 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
I have heard some of the better ones around 565hp :drink:


I know of one that dynoed 580 something that was modifided :eek:

Wow :cool: If that's the case, why did Merc bother building the 600!

tnothin 10-26-2006 08:43 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Sea-Dated
Fountain raises the bar again. I love hearing news like this. It does good for the advancement of all of the powerboats we so love. The only thing that frustrates me is how so many question the facts. If OL or Cig made the same claim then there would be nothing but congrats from everyone. If Fountain does it then it must have been rigged, or not stock engines. Come on people, just be happy for them for their accomplishments.

Well said!!!
And I have been told by my friend who is also my dealer, that it was bravo drives with sport master shorties with 5 blade Maximus props.

tnothin 10-26-2006 08:44 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by SLANDREW
OURS goes 108 with 525'S 2002 also :evilb:

Ive heard of that canopied 35 with stag. 525s runin closer to 112-115????

TeamSaris 10-26-2006 08:47 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
somethings wrong then:eek:

Right about 98 the boat gets a "hop" in it and just runs out of speed not r's just the hull wont go any faster.

TeamSaris 10-26-2006 08:57 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by SLANDREW
Where you towing another boat :evilb: :eek:

I wanted to see how the mini ahwk would handle 1400 horsepower. :D

SHARKEY-IMAGES 10-26-2006 09:18 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by fast fun 2
Right about 98 the boat gets a "hop" in it and just runs out of speed not r's just the hull wont go any faster.

Get the straight edge out and start sanding the hook out of the bottom....

Roger 10-26-2006 09:19 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
You people are missing the big change. Staggering the engines creates a better c/g and the boat runs flatter on the water using less trim and thus utilizing the stepped hull. Look at the speeds the 38 runs with staggered engines. All of the 35s earlier had c/gs further to the rear thus taking more trim to raise the hull, =s horsepower loss. Raising the hull takes more horsepower than running the boat straight. I have run a 38 with staggered 525s at 112.026 setting the record in 2004. I think it is quite an accomplishment and am proud to own a boat that the company is never satisified with past accomplishments. Keep it up Fountain.

iamfaster 10-26-2006 09:29 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
. But who is actually going to ask them to prove that they are stock 525's ? :rolleyes:

No one....

Otherwise.....cool thread..... :drink:[/QUOTE]


Simple answer..... their dealers and customers will expext those speeds and will most likely see them! on every new boat off the line and tested at the factory!

The original 35's were single stepped, not double stepped like this particular one.

SHARKEY-IMAGES 10-26-2006 09:48 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by iamfaster
Simple answer..... their dealers and customers will expect those speeds and will most likely see them! on every new boat off the line and tested at the factory!

And in case they don't see those speeds : ;)

"Be advised that performance figures are merely an estimate on what you can expect based on our factory testing program. The above listed speeds are verified by radar with one test driver and less than 10 gallons of fuel. Boat speeds and range can vary depending on weight, fuel load, number of passengers, air temperature, altitude, humidity, barometric pressure, water conditions, wind, engine tuning, horsepower (HP) variance from engine to engine, propellors and numerous other factors beyond our control."

Strip Poker 388 10-26-2006 10:26 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
I heard a rumor on the new 42 with trip 525's staggered.Have they run it yet?

Rippem 10-26-2006 10:53 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by sharkeymarine
And in case they don't see those speeds : ;)

"Be advised that performance figures are merely an estimate on what you can expect based on our factory testing program. The above listed speeds are verified by radar with one test driver and less than 10 gallons of fuel. Boat speeds and range can vary depending on weight, fuel load, number of passengers, air temperature, altitude, humidity, barometric pressure, water conditions, wind, engine tuning, horsepower (HP) variance from engine to engine, propellors and numerous other factors beyond our control."

yea...

how often is it that you hear a Fountain owner yapping about his boat running what's on the "performance report"? Not too often...

most often that figure gives him something to chase...
"I know she's got another ________ MPH (fill in the blank) in her, Reggie says so" and besides that, that ________ MPH (that I'm not seeing) is bought and paid for. :rolleyes:

So OK, a ringer tuned, staggered nontheless, 33 ft boat runs 100+ on what is at least 1100 HP, shortie drives (how's it come over?) and 5K props...

this is earth-shattering?? :confused:

ZP\'d 10-27-2006 08:19 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
Queeeeestion.....

How in the world can ya believe Reggies gonna be straight up with anything after the Cat Killer fiasco? To me he lost all credibility after that one to claim anything as real.

SLOWOUTBOARD 10-27-2006 08:47 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by sharkeymarine
And in case they don't see those speeds : ;)

"Be advised that performance figures are merely an estimate on what you can expect based on our factory testing program. The above listed speeds are verified by radar with one test driver and less than 10 gallons of fuel. Boat speeds and range can vary depending on weight, fuel load, number of passengers, air temperature, altitude, humidity, barometric pressure, water conditions, wind, engine tuning, horsepower (HP) variance from engine to engine, propellors and numerous other factors beyond our control."

IS THIS A FOUNTAIN FACTORY QUOTE OR ANOTHER FOUNTAIN HATER QUOTE :evilb: IT SEEMS THE ONLY PUBLICITY OL GETS THESE DAYS IS EITHER RUNNING OUT OF FUEL OR LYING ON THE BOTTOM AT THE LARGEST BOAT SHOW IN THE WORLD

DRIVEN1 10-27-2006 08:54 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
Me too! I have been hearing about this boat for almost 2 years now. Any word on it?


Mike, I saw it at the show yesterday. I was told 66 mph with triple 275 verados. They are building one right now with quads.

FeverMike 10-27-2006 09:13 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by DRIVEN1
Mike, I saw it at the show yesterday. I was told 66 mph with triple 275 verados. They are building one right now with quads.

Thanks Mike....how's the show? 66mph is that all with triple 275's! :eek: No thanks I will stick with my wider beam, bigger and faster 38TE Fountain! Did they say what fuel milegae it get's? I would imagine it's a wet hull and it burns more fuel than the Fountain 38TE. Quads might get them to around 72-73mph but the fuel that pig will burn and still only go the same speed as a 38TE Fountain.....hummmm

Downtown42 10-27-2006 12:47 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Rippem
yea...

how often is it that you hear a Fountain owner yapping about his boat running what's on the "performance report"? Not too often...

most often that figure gives him something to chase...

Both my Fountains were 2mph faster than performance report from factory. The engine/drives loosens up a bit. And I find ideal conditions which Factory doesn't care. Boat done, run it, ship it out.

SHARKEY-IMAGES 10-27-2006 01:17 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
SLOWOUTBOARD,

For one thing, I don't hate Fountains.

Now if you are such a Fountainatic, you would know that is at the bottom of the Fountain ads...

That quote was directly from Hot Boat Mag Nov/Dec 2006 issue.

Open the cover and read the fine print.

Just because they get their test boat to do those speeds with who knows what HP, doesn't mean they have to make the production ones do the same.

You must be on another planet if you think OL doesn't get much publicity... :rolleyes:

sakoutis3 10-27-2006 01:33 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Marginmn
Fountain Powerboats Hosts Fourth Annual Dealer Meeting
Wednesday October 25, 9:45 am ET


Company Introduces Three New Boats at Dealer Meeting

"We also introduced the new 35' Lightning with significant enhancements to its deck and interior. The 35' Lightning is powered by two 525 horsepower Mercury engines for a top speed of 103 MPH"

That's smoking for a stock pleasure boat with 525's.


WASHINGTON, NC--(MARKET WIRE)--Oct 25, 2006 -- Fountain Powerboat Industries, Inc. (AMEX:FPB - News), a leading manufacturer of high performance sport boats, fish boats and express cruisers, announced today that more than 150 people attended their annual dealer meeting on October 16-17, 2006, held at the Fountain factory and Greenville Convention Center in Greenville, North Carolina.
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"We also introduced the new 35' Lightning with significant enhancements to its deck and interior. The 35' Lightning is powered by two 525 horsepower Mercury engines for a top speed of 103 MPH. And," continued Knight, "the dealers were very, very impressed with Fountain's first-ever the new 35' Lightening "SUB KILLER" that we will unveil to the public at the upcoming International Boat Show in Miami, Florida.No release as to power or speeds expected while submerged.Do to the unveiling of Outerlimits new auto suberging features."





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