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FeverMike 11-01-2006 07:03 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by sharkeymarine
They didn't allow anyone else to race because they wanted the Brand New Rio Roses boat to get the title in SV Unlimited in KW.

Come on, Reggie didn't welcome that competition last year....

If he wants to race fair and prove what he's got, have him show up in Destin with that so called "Cat Killer"...

Stay tuned.... :evilb:

Sharkey Fountain Hater, Fountain supports SBI/APBA/UIM and will not race OSS just like Fiore said he will not race SBI...so there this is nothing but armchair racing. However SBI has the biggest Super Vee fleet and the most competition so if Fiore thinks he has the best boat he should bring it over to SBI and try his luck.
For starters let's see Fiore/Outerlimits do a REAL kilo run and not some,"hey the GPS said we went blah blah blah mph"! So far all Fiore/Outerlimits is doing is talking out of the side of there mouth...let's see some real sanction event records.

Outdrive1 11-01-2006 09:02 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
After 12 pages of discussion Reggie has already won. Like him or not he's a genius at keeping his name and his boats the main subject of conversation among the performance boating community. Hell, I don't particularly like the look of Fountain's but I think I'm going to buy one just to see what all the fuss is about.

Gary864 11-01-2006 12:13 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
While I am not a fan of Reggie the person after meeting him many years back. I can't but applaude him on what he has done with his boats. At one time I said I would never own a Fountain. That has change recently as he has boats that fit my needs. Love him or hate him reggie builds a good product for a fare value.

I also Met mike Forie , who I thought was a great guy, but his boats are out of my price range,. I would love to own a outerlimit but due to cost Fountain could be on my hoist before a Outerlimit which I like more.

It all comes down to what fit your needs at a cost you can afford.

tnothin 11-01-2006 12:17 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
Sharkey Fountain Hater, Fountain supports SBI/APBA/UIM and will not race OSS just like Fiore said he will not race SBI...so there this is nothing but armchair racing. However SBI has the biggest Super Vee fleet and the most competition so if Fiore thinks he has the best boat he should bring it over to SBI and try his luck.
For starters let's see Fiore/Outerlimits do a REAL kilo run and not some,"hey the GPS said we went blah blah blah mph"! So far all Fiore/Outerlimits is doing is talking out of the side of there mouth...let's see some real sanction event records.

Well said!
Fountain has a couple boats in OSS dont they? I know they didnt have a one in Vegas.
Ive said it before I'll sayit again...Bottom line is no one will ever win every SINGLE race although Fountain wins some rediculous 90%, and team Corvette won every single race in the Le Mans series a couple years back, but I guarantee that if Fountain/OL raced 10 times, the beak will win at least 7-8 times.
As far as the two boats go, Its kinda like Corvette vs Ferrai, Fountain bein the vette and OL the Ferrai. Yes the Ferrai is flashyer and turns more heads and is more rare but also cost a WHOLE lot more. The vette is still an American icon, just like a beak, not as rare, and cost alot less, and what do the Ferrai and OLs have in common....They are both staring at the rear ends of a Vette and FOuntain all the time. If these machines are classified as PERFORMANCE machines, and NOT SHOW PIECES, then the Fountain and Vette are the only thing that matters

PS: I still think OLs/Ferrai are as awsome as it gets, If I had tons of $$$ I would buy a Ferrai 2-300k, but neve an OL 7-800k, please give me a break

Downtown42 11-01-2006 12:21 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by sharkeymarine

How quick he forgot about KW last year with OL's V-47 :rolleyes:

Other OL Race Boats:

1.Jus' Truckin'
2.Media Master
3.Wild Child
4.Obsession

WOW!! how impressive!! Just imagine Mikey's trophy room!!

one can only dream :bunny:

4 race boats...just imagine all the R&D that OL has invested in providing the boat racing public thru out the years :p






is this Nov's joke of the month? :cool:

Sean H 11-01-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
Sharkey Fountain Hater, Fountain supports SBI/APBA/UIM and will not race OSS just like Fiore said he will not race SBI...so there this is nothing but armchair racing. However SBI has the biggest Super Vee fleet and the most competition

SBI had 3 super vee's at their nationals, 2 skaters and 1 fountain.... i wouldn't make too much of a big deal about 3 boats versus 2.... OSS had 9 boats compete over the season, 6 of which raced more than 3 races (7 counting wazzup)... SBI had 7 boats that raced over the season, 5 of which raced 3 or more races.... so who has the bigger fleet?

Downtown42 11-01-2006 12:26 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
Why should Reggie switch race clubs? He was here first. Reggie has been loyal to SBI and ABPA for years.

Now Mikey says I won't race you unless you ditch all the loyal folks you've been with all these years? OSS who? How long has OSS been around?
Yeah, sure....

Just more excuses like John Kerry. uhhhh Kilo time again or still licking the wounds?

Downtown42 11-01-2006 12:29 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
In case you had a brain fart, FOUNTAIN has won more races than ALL other manufactors COMBINED.

what excuse can you offer now :mad:

Sean H 11-01-2006 12:34 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Downtown42
Why should Reggie switch race clubs? He was here first. Reggie has been loyal to SBI and ABPA for years.

Now Mikey says I won't race you unless you ditch all the loyal folks you've been with all these years? OSS who? How long has OSS been around?
Yeah, sure....

Just more excuses like John Kerry. uhhhh Kilo time again or still licking the wounds?

SBI had 19 boats that actually ran in 13 classes at their "Nationals", yeah, why would you want to leave that? oh yeah, cuz he can "interpert" the rules however he likes... :drink: :evilb:

and SBI's kilo's have been cancelled twice now (once at reggies place).... is there really no boats who want to run or is somebody scared that a boat might show up and beat somebody? enter your conspiracy theory here... :evilb:

Back4More 11-01-2006 02:34 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
:argue:

9 Lives 11-01-2006 02:58 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by GREAT SOUTH BAY
I didn't know that people who lost their lives in boating accident were classified as daddys money with no respect for the boats they owned??? :(


Huh? :confused:

That's not at all what was said in my post, that you quoted.

Could you please explain.

Rippem 11-01-2006 03:08 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
perhaps not the best choice of context

I think he's attempting a reference to the more (often easy) money than experience/ skills/respect for the sport thing that we all know is out there.??

We've seen and heard the stories right here on the board of rookies with cash going out and buying a 80-90-100 MPH floating "toy"

Of course the only time it's brought to light is when something bad happens involving this particular demographic, and most often it's in the everyday/weekend recreational world, not poker runs...and all too often alchohol has been involved. :(

but still, how many of these accidents waiting to happen are out there? and how much more fuel are we adding to the potential fire making it so easy to buy that kind of speed at the corner dealer?

SHARKEY-IMAGES 11-01-2006 03:37 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
Sharkey Fountain Hater, Fountain supports SBI/APBA/UIM and will not race OSS just like Fiore said he will not race SBI...so there this is nothing but armchair racing. However SBI has the biggest Super Vee fleet and the most competition so if Fiore thinks he has the best boat he should bring it over to SBI and try his luck.

#1 I don't dislike the Fountain boats. See my coverage of photos from all the events.

#2 Fountain supports Fountain. He is funding the whole show so he is calling all the shots. Just as he did in KW last year.
Unfortunately if JC doesn't follow orders from the money source he looses his sponsorship. Then who does he turn too?

#3 From what I see, your are wrong about the SBI having the largest S Vee fleet, but that was never important now was it ? Especially in Super Vee Unlimited.

#4 Outerlimits already tried to race Super Vee Unlimited with SBI in Key West last year until Reggie heard about it and put a stop to it. Reggie had his opportunity to race them in Key West and turned them away along with Donzi and the Firewater Team leaving him to go out with his BRAND NEW boat that had to be kept afloat with shrink wrap only to idle across the start line to give him a World Chumpionship Title. It doesn't get any more pathetic than that. :rolleyes:

Downtown42,
Whatever the OL trophy room may look like, at least they were earned with competition and not bought ...

I assure you that you won't see an OL getting a Super Vee World Title the way that the Fountain took the one last year in Key West and then brag about it. :rolleyes:

I think it is safe to say that OSS wouldn't have allowed the boat to even be on the course if knowing it couldn't pass pre-race inspection due to the brand new boat's bottom had delaminated in testing....

cosmic12 11-01-2006 03:39 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Rippem
perhaps not the best choice of context

I think he's attempting a reference to the more (often easy) money than experience/ skills/respect for the sport thing that we all know is out there.??

We've seen and heard the stories right here on the board of rookies with cash going out and buying a 80-90-100 MPH floating "toy"

Of course the only time it's brought to light is when something bad happens involving this particular demographic, and most often it's in the everyday/weekend recreational world, not poker runs...and all too often alchohol has been involved. :(

but still, how many of these accidents waiting to happen are out there? and how much more fuel are we adding to the potential fire making it so easy to buy that kind of speed at the corner dealer?

can you tell me why there is a brand new 35 in the racks at a nameless marina in FT Lauderdale that has the whole port side wiped out?? I can. 21 yr old guy that didn't have a clue what he was doing. to fast? unstable? dinking? inexperince? anyone with a ck book. and It can be any brand OL/ cig? FOUNTian/ FORM/ ect-ect-ect-

cherrycobalt262 11-01-2006 03:40 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
just something to compare to .... Formula 353 Fastech is 9500 lbs dry.... Fountain 35 is 8600lbs... I would take the ride in the Formula in any "rough water".... :rolleyes:

Rippem 11-01-2006 03:49 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
let's try to stay away from the brand to brand comparos/bashing...it's a dead end argument, and steers us away from the REAL issues of marketing/selling readily available big speed to anyone

9 Lives 11-01-2006 03:49 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
My reference to "Daddy's money" is understood by most. Maybe it wasn't exactly daddy's money, but basically someone who quickly aquired enough funding to jump into the performance boating scene with little or no previous experience. Their decision to start near the top of the performance boating scale was likely not discouraged by the salesman.

A similar comparison would be the newly licensed 16 year old that is handed the keys to a new Vette, Viper etc. While showing a friend how cool and fast their new car is, a situation may arise that causes them to lose control mainly because of the lack of driving experience. While with today's autos safety features and innovations, looping the car a few times and even kissing off the the guardrail or center wall will not likely be fatal. doing the same in a high performance boat usually results in devastating and sometimes fatal results.

I hope this clears it up, for you.

Downtown42 11-01-2006 04:40 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
I can tell you my dealer made sure I knew what was going on. Mandatory test drive. I agree more stupid accidents will occur with higher speeds.
Education.

Downtown42 11-01-2006 04:42 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
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Originally Posted by GREAT SOUTH BAY
I think you need a time out for that remark just my 02 :(

.... :chimp:

Rippem 11-01-2006 04:47 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
I'm thinking that handsome "feller" with the 50 IQ is back to do less than contribute to intelligent responsible discussion.

SLOWOUTBOARD 11-01-2006 05:28 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by sharkeymarine
#1 I don't dislike the Fountain boats. See my coverage of photos from all the events.

#2 Fountain supports Fountain. He is funding the whole show so he is calling all the shots. Just as he did in KW last year.
Unfortunately if JC doesn't follow orders from the money source he looses his sponsorship. Then who does he turn too?

#3 From what I see, your are wrong about the SBI having the largest S Vee fleet, but that was never important now was it ? Especially in Super Vee Unlimited.

#4 Outerlimits already tried to race Super Vee Unlimited with SBI in Key West last year until Reggie heard about it and put a stop to it. Reggie had his opportunity to race them in Key West and turned them away along with Donzi and the Firewater Team leaving him to go out with his BRAND NEW boat that had to be kept afloat with shrink wrap only to idle across the start line to give him a World Chumpionship Title. It doesn't get any more pathetic than that. :rolleyes:

Downtown42,
Whatever the OL trophy room may look like, at least they were earned with competition and not bought ...

I assure you that you won't see an OL getting a Super Vee World Title the way that the Fountain took the one last year in Key West and then brag about it. :rolleyes:

I think it is safe to say that OSS wouldn't have allowed the boat to even be on the course if knowing it couldn't pass pre-race inspection due to the brand new boat's bottom had delaminated in testing....

why werent the OL's allowed to race? what was the reason?

TeamSaris 11-01-2006 05:47 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
I like the beaks and their individuality but im no "true blue fan". I went for a ride in an 2007 38 yesterday. It had staggerd 600s and with the wrong props (on the rev limiters) was running 98 mph. Thats FAST!! And it was not squirly at all with no tab input except for the blocks. For a stock boat, thats damn good and if the 35 runs better with 525s, more power to fountain to sell em!

But Lynn's chirs cat was fater. :D

9 Lives 11-01-2006 06:00 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Rippem
I'm thinking that handsome "feller" with the 50 IQ is back to do less than contribute to intelligent responsible discussion.

It appears that the newly registered today GREAT SOUTH WHALE has also been "Banned". :D Again, not my doing.


Thanks again OSO

SHARKEY-IMAGES 11-01-2006 06:32 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by SLOWOUTBOARD
why werent the OL's allowed to race? what was the reason?

Perhaps this will enlighten you....




.

TeamSaris 11-01-2006 06:33 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by GLH
Stellar numbers for who ever builds it.

Congrats to who has one that hauls like that.

Thats probably the most mature post on this whole thread. LMAO :D

Rippem 11-01-2006 07:02 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by fast fun 2
Thats probably the most mature post on this whole thread. LMAO :D

yea, there's certianly nothing mature about discussing speed and safety. :p

FeverMike 11-01-2006 07:47 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
Does anyone know if this new 35 Lightning has more leg room at the helm compared to the 35EX? I went to sit in an EX today and know way possible could I get my legs under the dash. the bottom of the dash hit right below my knee and would not let me sit or lean into the bolster. Very very small boat.
I am thinking of downsizing from my huge 38TE and get back into a performance boat but I still need to fit.

TeamSaris 11-01-2006 07:52 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Rippem
yea, there's certianly nothing mature about discussing speed and safety. :p

I was just kidding i wasnt reading a lot of them. :D

tnothin 11-01-2006 09:35 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
BLA BLA BLA BLA. Fountain is the winningest boat out there OL is the chalenger. THey both have had so called excuses, and if you had to break down the brief history of their head 2 head competition, Fountain has a better record. I mean that Skater V is really fast and Fountain beats them 70% of the time. I dont think Reggie is scared, nor do I think Mike is scared.

BOTTOM LINE....They both need to stop acting like a bunch of Heavyweight title fight promoters, and go out there and race. Start acting more like Nascar teams. And have some fun and go out and compete. Its just sad that this is too much about business and not about Racing Competition!!!!!!!!!!!

Expensive Date 11-01-2006 10:42 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
Does anyone know if this new 35 Lightning has more leg room at the helm compared to the 35EX? I went to sit in an EX today and know way possible could I get my legs under the dash. the bottom of the dash hit right below my knee and would not let me sit or lean into the bolster. Very very small boat.
I am thinking of downsizing from my huge 38TE and get back into a performance boat but I still need to fit.

Its my understanding that its the same cockpit as a 38 lightning hope this helps

blownincome 11-02-2006 04:27 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by SmoothWaterSports
So the next question is, is it time for the dealer to step up and offer some advice on engine choice? The 35 with 496's will be an excellent package and help limit the speeds for the average (is there such a person?) customer, or long term owner. Benefits are there, but will the customer accept it, or is it "gotta have it" power?

Peter

Peter Great meeting you ! Look forward to working with you Guys!
Bob :drink:

9 Lives 11-02-2006 07:47 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by Marginmn
In theory, moving the weight of the engines lower in the boat and closer to the center of the boat should make the boat more stable in both chop and in turns. Along with the CG, I think they have also moved the steps forward in these full staggers.

I'm sure a call to Fountain's customer support would provide answers to these questions. I may give them a call.

Can anyone confirm or deny if the steps have been moved or changed to accomodate the stagger set-up in this new 35' model?

carcrash 11-03-2006 11:53 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by hpoffshore
Who is Fountain's competition for their 38SFC, that tops-out at 42 mph?

There are several: that seems prett much in line with tests in Boating Magazine for large outboard powered boats, including Intrepid and other lesser names that I can't remember (why bother remembering inferior products)

BZ 11-03-2006 07:35 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by cherrycobalt262
just something to compare to .... Formula 353 Fastech is 9500 lbs dry.... Fountain 35 is 8600lbs... I would take the ride in the Formula in any "rough water".... :rolleyes:


I would take the Fountian and I have Driven BOTH...BZ

FeverMike 11-03-2006 09:07 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 
Back in 1999-2001 when Factory 2 was the hottest class going The 35 Fountain and Formula were the boats to race. The 35 Fountain Lightning's out ran the 353 Forumlas in rough water every single time. There was some very close racing back then.

beachbob 11-08-2006 12:43 AM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by FountainDealer.com
The boat was awesome at 103 - 104mph 5 people and we topped off fuel before we left I was thinking yea right 103 no way. We had a hand held GPS it was reading 105 boat speedo was reading 103 - 104 over cross waves boat felt good. New poker run boat any one 103+ and we can offer 5 year warranty's.

If this is all true? I can go 103 mph in a stock 35 with 525's and get a 5 year warranty! Prove it! Fountain Dealers show me the speed and I'll show you the money! Buyafountain chime in and will take a ride!! (FOR SALE 2006 sunsation SS 85 mph at wholesale) I could catch that 46 cig with triple 525's that keeps passing me. Be worth every penny :drink:

PayBack1 11-08-2006 12:22 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by ZP'd
Queeeeestion.....

How in the world can ya believe Reggies gonna be straight up with anything after the Cat Killer fiasco? To me he lost all credibility after that one to claim anything as real.


Does Skip Braver(insert any other Co. owner name here if needed) have a polygraph attached to his wrist everytime he talks about his boats?

Fountain sells the most, does the most R@D, and quite often wins the most races. Sounds pretty impressive to me.

Technology gets better every year, and a lot of older heavier boats will get stomped on as a result.

Just the way it is.

Downtown42 11-08-2006 02:01 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by beachbob
If this is all true? I can go 103 mph in a stock 35 with 525's and get a 5 year warranty! Prove it! Fountain Dealers show me the speed and I'll show you the money! Buyafountain chime in and will take a ride!! (FOR SALE 2006 sunsation SS 85 mph at wholesale) I could catch that 46 cig with triple 525's that keeps passing me. Be worth every penny :drink:

Nope, that is wrong. They actually went 107. :eek: Just in case, 103 is 24/7

Call Shogren, he'll work it out. :D

NefariousOne 11-08-2006 02:26 PM

Re: Reggie's new 35 Lightning does 103 with 525's!!!
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike
Back in 1999-2001 when Factory 2 was the hottest class going The 35 Fountain and Formula were the boats to race. The 35 Fountain Lightning's out ran the 353 Forumlas in rough water every single time. There was some very close racing back then.

Then the ZR's came along..... :evilb: :drink: ;)


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