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Old 10-29-2006, 04:47 PM
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crazyhorse, how do you get a motorhome reg when the tractor does not have a bathroom or stove
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seems like there must be some leeway- every 8'6" RV/trailer I've ownde had 3-4" of awnign hdwe asticking out (additional) and often there is similar hdwe on the other side. my 28' GN race trailer prolly measures 9' 2" or moreby the time you measure all the hdwe.

Same with the mirrors on very big truck (or for that matter my tow mirrors flipped out on the Dodge, 3" worth of clearance lights, log trucks and scrap trucks with the sides bowing out
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crazyhorse, how do you get a motorhome reg when the tractor does not have a bathroom or stove
A lot of usefull information about converting a MDT (medium duty truck, class 4-6) and HDT (heavy duty truck, class 7-8) to what is required for licensing as an RV can be found at these sites.

www.dmbruss.com/RR_WhyTheVolvo.htm

www.escapees.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x

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Old 10-29-2006, 05:09 PM
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Hi bgchuby. This is the time of year that the Michigan boaters want their boats transported to Michigan. It might be interesting if you were to contact Tiara Yachts to see if they need to hire you every now and then.
The requirements in Michigan to regiswter and plate a vehicle as a motorhome are permanent sleeping facilities and cooking facilities. No sanitary facilities are required.
Mine has both cooking and sleeping facilites and passed the inspection.
Each state has different requirements so you need to do some research. I think Missouri has a selection list that contains about ten different items. Of these ten the vehicle has to have seven permanently affixed. It doesn't matter which seven as long as you have seven.
Florida says that if the Florida-registered motorhome/motorcoach has three axles it needs to be registered as a commercial vehicle.
Each state also has different driver license requirements. Michigan has an interesting loophole concerning the use of a commercial tractor to pull trailer with the truck operator's personal goods in/on it. Legally I can rent a Ryder truck to pull my boat without a CDL as long as I can prove it's my boat and it's for personal pleasure use.

9Lives, the insurance lapse would be during the event only.
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:13 PM
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Hi bgchuby. This is the time of year that the Michigan boaters want their boats transported to Michigan. It might be interesting if you were to contact Tiara Yachts to see if they need to hire you every now and then.
The requirements in Michigan to register and plate a vehicle as a motorhome are permanent sleeping facilities and cooking facilities. No sanitary facilities are required.
Mine has both cooking and sleeping facilites and passed the inspection.
Each state has different requirements so you need to do some research. I think Missouri has a selection list that contains about ten different items. Of these ten the vehicle has to have seven permanently affixed. It doesn't matter which seven as long as you have seven.
Florida says that if the Florida-registered motorhome/motorcoach has three axles it needs to be registered as a commercial vehicle.
Each state also has different driver license requirements. Michigan has an interesting loophole concerning the use of a commercial tractor to pull trailer with the truck operator's personal goods in/on it. Legally I can rent a Ryder truck to pull my boat without a CDL as long as I can prove it's my boat and it's for personal pleasure use.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=127816
Scroll down aways and check out the inside pics (don't take it too seriously)

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OK Crazyhorse, that was funny. Now where's the real pictures of the sleeper cab?
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:42 PM
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You liked that, eh? We were in Ft. myers last February and a friend had my wife take pictures of the motorhome he was putting for sale. The buyers said the pictures were what sold the unit.
The Freightliner is just a run-of-the-mill unit that has permanently installed cooking facilites just behind the seats and the stock bunk.
These trucks can be found on www.truckpaper.com and www.trucktrader.com for very reasonable prices. Keep in mind that very few are automatic transmission-equipped (there is a 1994 Freightliner FLD120 A/T in Fremont IN on truckpaper for $6800) but they fit the GVWR and GCWR.
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for legal reasons you are able to be 102 inches wide. safety items such as mirrors and other things are able to be a little wider
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When I was pulled over for overwidth I also did not have CA numbers on my Kodiak. I was told any truck with a gvw over 12000 lbs., ie. anything over 1 ton needed a CA number. That started the mess. My Kodiak has a gvw of 18000 lbs. which does not require a CDL however once you attach a trailer over 20 ft. long and over 10000 lbs. now I needed a CDL. My trailer is 40' and 18000 gvw rated. My boat is 10' ft. at it's widest point but measured 115" at the point of measurement. Whether the rig is pleasure or commercial the CHP really doesn't care. I do not stop at scales but was informed that if I'm chased down for passing the scale it will count as a point on my license just like speeding. I got a real education that day and the only reason I was on the freeway is I was trailering my Jaguar to the glass shop after the wreck at the Big Cat Poker Run. I think the CHP officer felt sorry for me as I showed her the damage as we were measuring the transom. The officer could have made me disconnect the trailer on the shoulder of the freeway and find a driver with a CDL to move the boat and trailer. Not a good week. Doug
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:29 PM
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Yup, every state is different.
Dyno and I went to Hamilton Ontario from Holland MI a few years ago to trailer home a 1980 Sea Ray 310 Vanguard Express (12 ft. beam) that I had just purchased. A friend of Dyno's leased me his Chevrolet diesel dually and friend of mine leased me his 18000 lb. wide-load trailer. I got all the US and Canadian round-trip permits from a permit service , and had all the wide load flags and signage. I even called the police in Hamilton for permission to transport on their municpal roads and they were more than happy to assist us, including offering an escort if we felt it would be necessary. We made the trip with absolutely no problems, not even at the border during both crossings.
I learned a long time ago, when I drove semi for a living, to always run legal, no matter how much it costs.
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