Wow..whats up with Fountain
 

I see that there are now 231 beakers for sale, that has to be a new record for this site. :eek:

Earlier this year there were 160. Baja and Cig have stayed abount the same in the low 100's.

Everyone selling out to buy a new 35 or what? :evilb:

I guess I was just shocked that they had jumped so much in listings, maybe people trying to unload before winter?

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It's that marketing genius. Get 'em all horny about every model years significant improvements to keep 'em buying new boats. Drives used values down, but used boat sales isn't what keeps the doors at the factory open.
It's alot like the snowmobile market. Buy a new sled for a reasonable discount ride it a year or two...by then it's antique tech because of advancements, then try to unload it against alot of competition.

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I will be moving to a newer beak :cool:

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Everyone finaly figured out Reggie is all hype and now they're unloading those barges for real go fast boats. :evilb: :evilb: :drink: :drink:

On a serios note I noticed all manufactures used inventory seemed to jump up. My hope is that this is a sign of a strong economy and everyone is moving up. :cool:

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its a sig of a bad economy... everyone unloading... this summer was weak... the marina were gosttowns on the w/e

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I Don't Know If It Is Good Or Bad, But Amazingly My Boat Broker Emailed Me Ironically With A 2007 42 Fountain Today. People Are Either Upgrading Or Going Broke, Which Is It? Anyone Interested Let Me Know And I Can Get You Info On The Used 07 42 Fountain, Looked Nice.

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YOu know thats interesing because the market has come back from a 5 year dip, unemployment is 4.4% which is the best in 5 years. I don't think, with the exception of energy, the economy is that bad. Of course with rates at the current level, as a borrower you can't buy what you could 5 years ago.

I work making business loans and businesses are making good profits and defaults are very low. Wage pressure is on the way up.

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I say a lot of us are buying new stuff; business and growth has been great with more planned for '07!
Due

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It depends on where you live,,,, Dreamer is right ,,, Ohio is in the Tank,,,, Lot's of great deals here, but no money to buy for most people!!

Only a fortunate few can step up and order new !! :( :(

RHC

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housing has tanked... gas is still up.... credit card debt and late payments are up as are defaults on housing....

but ifu listen to bush the economy is strong :rolleyes:

mission in iraq accomplished too :rolleyes:

all economist r predicting a .25 to .5 rate cut in the first quarter of 07

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NICE!

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Can't buy anything on the water around here for less than
1.5 mil. No inventory. Someone must have some money.
My brother in law sells Cobalts. A 23 ft bowrider goes for
60k. Had their best year ever. Go figure

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Just a thought....Fountain builds and sells around 8 times
the boats as Cig. Thru the 90'S cig was building somewhere
between 8-20 boats a year. Fountain was building 10-15
times as many. Really when you look at it Cig has a higher
percentage to build ratio for sale. (Percentage to build)
What the Hell does that mean? :D You get my point. :D
Alot of new dealer stock for sale in the classifieds also.

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i just closed a loan on my new to me boat today thru a good friend of mine and the last 8 weeks of marine business for him is the best its been since Feb-Mar of this year

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That's a good point that has been discussed in earlier threads.

The difference, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that a higher percentage of Cig. sellers are actually MOVING UP to a new Cig, or maybe an OL.

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Must not be a popular boat line...Nobody wants to buy them. :rolleyes:

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Why is it when a new boat, cig, or fountain, or O/L is featured in a magazine, I see it for sale months later at places like Lake Cumberlane (sp) ? Alot of cats too with very specific paint, for sale??

Seems like these manufactures make these over the top boats with Mercs latest and greatest, for no one?? Just hope it sells??

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A lot of those boats are already sold.... they show them for their advertising spread.

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I would say that is probably true for all used boats to some
extent. Some are moving up,some are moving out and
some are changing the style of boat they own. I don't
think Cig owners have an exclusive to moving up.
Do Cig owners sell to buy a Fountain? Probably not. Do Fountain owners sell to buy a Cig? I'd have to say
sometimes they do. But most I know move to a larger
or newer Fountain. I think once people find what they
like, they stay pretty loyal to that brand. Unless its a
P.O.S.

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Mines in there so I can upgrade. :evilb: :evilb:

To another beak.

Also, as stated before, there are almost as many new fountains listed as there are used ones.

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This is one hell of a buyer's market!

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Mine's in there because I'm moving to London. I don't think its going to fit in the container. I don't even want to think what it would cost to ship it over there not to mention paying around $8/gallon.

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Did you read my whole post? I asked why these feature boats are for sale only months later? What you state above is what I have believed for a while. But I keep seeing these new feature boats up for sale.

Makes me think some of these boats are not commisioned , but built for an article only.

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Next I bet we'll hear that G.W. was in Fort Lauderdale last week. :eek: :rolleyes: :D

In the last 25 years no President has had that much to do with how much money I made. A smart businessman will read the signs and react acordingly. In my case, it's do I store my grain or sell it, Is it time to buy more land or invest in irrigation on the land I own?
I believe even someone who works for an hourly wage has the same opertunities to protect or expand their income.

It's the same in the boat market. I think a lot of people are seeing these lower boat prices and are wanting to move up. They list their boat forsale because they don't like what a dealer will give them for a trade-in. If they can find a buyer to give them a few dollars more, they'll move up. :cool:

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My experience is to go with a small custom builder if you want to retain value or be able to resale it quicker. It simply supply and demand.

The market is a "priceless" market. These boats are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. Plus with insurance, interest, and gas being up, it has knocked out some of the payment buyers.

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I bought my boat from lcm last aug. 05 they still ad. 4 sale til last week til I emailed them that I was going to sell it.can you say LOST LEADER? BAIT AN SWITCH