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super termoli 11-27-2006 03:22 AM

Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
Any inside info on this? How does it run, condition, etc.

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/6/3/1568963.htm

open87 11-27-2006 06:56 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
looks like a good deal..

Tom A. 11-27-2006 07:04 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
That's been for sale for awhile. I am curious how it handles with all that weight in the back and what kind of speeds it sees. Interesting option for under 100K.

Boomer35 11-27-2006 07:16 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
it's an awesome boat, it shows extremely clean, and it rides smooth as any boat ive ever been in, handles 6 footers out in cape cod like it was a flat pond,

super termoli 11-27-2006 07:20 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
No wonder it's been for sale for a while. I've sent two e-mails requesting more info, no reply.

Anyway, what Tom A. said: i'd be interested to hear from someone who knows the boat and who could tell me more about the handling and the speed. The ad says 72 tops but with the weight of those engines, that does sound a bit optimistic...

super termoli 11-27-2006 07:22 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
thanks boomer, any impressions on speed, getting on plane, etc. ?

Maritime_Eng 11-27-2006 07:37 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
I looked at this boat a few months ago. I Talked to a few people that have driven the boat and said that it was almost impossible to get the boat on plane with out Nitrous Oxide. It only has a single speed transmission. The second diesel powered boat from outerlimist came with 2 speed transmisons. Once on plane they said it was a really nice boat.
I didn't want to have to deal with nitrous Oxide so I passed on the boat.

Hope this helps
Don

super termoli 11-27-2006 07:43 AM

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Thanks Don. It looks like the engines don't want to deal with nitrous either. They had to replace one completely which for a big diesel probably means block damage.

I notice that ASDs don't have aeration ducts on photos. Wonder why they haven't tried to install some if they have trouble getting on plane???

Boomer35 11-27-2006 10:15 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
It was a little tough to get on plane but it wasnt much of a problem, once on plane it was a smooth flying ride, 72 was probly about right for top speed but you could cruise at 65-70 all day long without having to worry about engine damage or fuel for that matter

super termoli 11-27-2006 11:39 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
so, 72 is regular top end, not something that you can hold for like 10 secs while on NOS?

thank you all for the info.

thisistank 11-27-2006 12:42 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
This boat has been for sale for a long time.

at under 100k it'd be worth it to pull the diesels out, sell them and drop some 525EFI's in.

Tom A. 11-27-2006 01:11 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
Tank,
That is what I was thinking. You could probably sell the two motors for the cost of the 525s but then you still have to have the tanks flushed and re-rig for them.
Interesting idea though w/ the Arnesons!

animalhouse 11-27-2006 01:16 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
Boat is cool. The second one built does have the 2 speed trannies, and would be worth it to upfit this boat as well. 72 is the real top end of this boat, and with that tourque, load it up and it'll still do 72.

super termoli 11-27-2006 04:03 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
The only reason i am interested in the boat is because it has those CAT diesels in it. If it had 525s, I wouldn't even look at it. Besides, in today's market 100K buys you something like an early 388 Slingshot with 500s already in it so why try to reinvent the world and end up spending more?

IMO, the gain in speed with 525s is not worth the trouble, the extra consumption, the extra maintenance cost, etc. Especially as I don't think that gains in terms of cruising speed would be significant. If this thing tops out at 72, it can cruise 60-65 all day. How fast would it be with 525s at say, 3800rpm?

Animalhouse, I agree that the boat would really come alive with 2-speed trannies but they are quite a bit larger than single speeds and the conversion might be a lot of work or even impossible depending on how much space there is left between the engines and the forward engineroom bulkhead. In addition, I would have to check the exact numbers but I have the impression that those CATs make more torque than Yanmars so putting the small 110-series 2-speeds is probably not a good idea.

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts, awaiting reply from the broker...

otis311 11-27-2006 05:45 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
Call Harry Turner directly if you dont get a reply from the broker

Panther 11-27-2006 05:55 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 

Originally Posted by super termoli
IMO, the gain in speed with 525s is not worth the trouble, the extra consumption, the extra maintenance cost, etc. Especially as I don't think that gains in terms of cruising speed would be significant. If this thing tops out at 72, it can cruise 60-65 all day. How fast would it be with 525s at say, 3800rpm?

Animalhouse, I agree that the boat would really come alive with 2-speed trannies but they are quite a bit larger than single speeds and the conversion might be a lot of work or even impossible depending on how much space there is left between the engines and the forward engineroom bulkhead. In addition, I would have to check the exact numbers but I have the impression that those CATs make more torque than Yanmars so putting the small 110-series 2-speeds is probably not a good idea.

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts, awaiting reply from the broker...

Usually lots of room in those engine compartments. how long are the diesels? Side by side OL's with gas motors have like 4-5 ft infront of the motor to the bulkhead.

Late model 37 OL with 525's will cruise around 45-55 mph, I know this cause a friend had one. :D

I like the Diesels, should have lots of service life without the NOS. :cool:

damdonzi 11-27-2006 05:55 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
This link should help:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...el+Outerlimits

Superboat Guy 11-27-2006 06:28 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
I saw the ad for this boat listed on yacht world, its marked SOLD!

Superboat Guy 11-27-2006 06:32 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
I was very interested in that boat also. I just had a hard time convincing myself that I wanted to deal with a boat this big and its hassles, hydro hoist, trailer storage, ect. Also the Nitrous things scares me, two engines in 400 hours. I did learn that the interior was almost new. I wish the new owners the best with her. I am kinda bummed!

Jassman 11-27-2006 08:02 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
I personally like the boat, not only cause of the diesels, but I like the SS 37 OL model as well. Not sure on the nitrous on marinzed diesels, but we do run them in one of my 6.0 litre Fords. It only comes on between 3200-4150 rpms or a max of 10-12 seconds, once engaged. No major problems, but on the dually with all the other mods at the track we are turning 13.55 vs 14.01 with out. That is a 4+ truck length difference in the 1/4. We are working on a propane truck now, my daily drive 07 F350 dually....Like Super T stated, if they redo the vent tubes or add them to help aid it up on plane, add a butterfly valve in the tubes for better mid-range acceleration, possibly turn them up a bit, play with props, possibly larger exhuast and so on, top speed will definatly get faster. I think it's a great buy, relable, fuel effecient, but top in the upper 70's for me would be better. :cool: Jeff

phragle 11-27-2006 09:35 PM

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nitrous in a diesel?? wouldnt propane be a much better alternative???

super termoli 11-28-2006 02:46 AM

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looks like it's sold. which explains why they didn't reply to me, a deal had probably been agreed already.

oh well, good luck to the new owner. but i do think it's a great buy. it's economical, reliable, cheap and IMO fast enough for someone who is going to do a lot of long-distance cruising with family on board. and it looks pretty good, looks much faster than it actually is...

AIR TIME 11-28-2006 05:38 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
I had seen HARRY run through the canal with it it seemed to get on plane like any other hp boat this was when he first own it.

Superboat Guy 11-28-2006 06:21 AM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits 37
 
How many other GTY Diesels were made? This red one was the first, I know there was a white one, any others? Ever see them for sale or around?

Sick Stinger 04-01-2011 04:20 PM

where is this boat now? Anymore pics or info on it?
Mike

SS930 04-01-2011 04:38 PM

I tried contacting them a while ago, I got no response.

WildThing47 04-01-2011 04:56 PM

I believe that was originally Paul Fiorie's boat...I remember seeing it years ago in Greenport with him. It was very stern heavy but seemed to run pretty well for what it was.

OL40SVX 04-01-2011 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by madhatter42 (Post 3366057)
I believe that was originally Paul Fiorie's boat...I remember seeing it years ago in Greenport with him. It was very stern heavy but seemed to run pretty well for what it was.

There were two built. One was Pauls and one was Harry's.

Rik 04-01-2011 05:41 PM

One of them is at "Craig's Big Wave Marina"

Sick Stinger 04-01-2011 06:08 PM

Hey Rik what one and how do you know. I can see what they have for sale or in house
-Mike

diesel2fast4u 07-02-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 1946467)
nitrous in a diesel?? wouldnt propane be a much better alternative???

Nitrous to get the turbo's to spool.

I had several years ago a sonic 28 with 1 yanmar, without nitrous I needed to surf it on a wave to get it on plane...

RT930turbo 10-31-2011 05:30 PM

ttt.

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/3149

Wonder if this is an old ad or if it's indeed for sale again...

Riley0114 10-31-2011 05:56 PM

It's an old ad at the bottom it says it was posted september 24th 2006

OLD MAN 10-31-2011 09:02 PM

Re: Diesel Outerlimits
 
I know the owner of Paul Fiore's former boat. We talked this past
summer and he would be willing to sell it. If my memory is right
his 37 is a 2000 w/Arnesons. PM me if you have an interest in the
boat and I will pass your contact info to him. OK! George

drpete3 11-01-2011 02:10 PM

Is this the only 37 w Arnesons? Are there any gas powered?

beertruck 11-01-2011 03:41 PM

contact Big Wave Craig's in Hyannis ma. I think he pulled the diesels out and re-powered, and repainted it in 2010.

SS930 11-02-2011 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 3540917)
Is this the only 37 w Arnesons? Are there any gas powered?

I've never seen a gas powered Arneson 37, although that certainly doesn't mean there's not one out there... the 37 was easily OL's biggest seller so they produced quite a few over the years.

WildThing47 11-02-2011 10:38 AM

I don't believe so, most just went 6s with big power.

I remember Paul's boat, when I had my 37, I saw that boat when it was pretty new...it sat very low in the water. He wanted hassle free boating.

RT930turbo 11-02-2011 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by OLD MAN (Post 3540578)
I know the owner of Paul Fiore's former boat. We talked this past
summer and he would be willing to sell it. If my memory is right
his 37 is a 2000 w/Arnesons. PM me if you have an interest in the
boat and I will pass your contact info to him. OK! George

Thanks, George. I'm not in the market right this second, but we are starting to look at options. I like the idea of a fast diesel boat for economy and turn key reliability. We like to put lots of miles on our boat!

OL40SVX 11-02-2011 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3541266)
I've never seen a gas powered Arneson 37, although that certainly doesn't mean there's not one out there... the 37 was easily OL's biggest seller so they produced quite a few over the years.

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