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T2x 12-29-2006 08:36 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 

Originally Posted by Lute ****ey (Post 1975914)
Don't throw rocks at our little slice of heaven Rich !

What rocks????

I love Tennessee and the Allisons that came from there.....

Good 'ol Rocky Top.......Rocky Top Ten-a-seeeeee.

T2x:p

FeverMike 12-29-2006 09:41 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 
Steve Stepp (Velocity) got his pad bottom idea for offshore boats from these style of boats too.

Reed Jensen 12-29-2006 10:01 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 

Originally Posted by T2x (Post 1975507)
The technical term was, I believe, ABSATCAL (A B*ll Sh*t Appendage To Create Artificial Length). It is still in use today under the newer name BEAK (Baloney Ersatz Addon Kontraption)....:D

T2x

Thanks for the straight answer buddy....... :p

Reed Jensen 12-29-2006 10:08 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 

Originally Posted by T2x (Post 1976196)
What rocks????

I love Tennessee and the Allisons that came from there.....

Good 'ol Rocky Top.......Rocky Top Ten-a-seeeeee.

T2x:p

A buddy of mine recently purchased a new Allison... It's fast, but above 50 it becomes a balancing act to keep it on the pad. Not fun to drive at those speeds. You are constantly jabbing the wheel to the left to keep it on the pad, and if it falls off the pad... it goes into a super scary chine walk..... :mad:

T2x 12-29-2006 10:09 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike (Post 1976275)
Steve Stepp (Velocity) got his pad bottom idea for offshore boats from these style of boats too.

That's true....and he admits it.....

Steve also built a wood and fibreglass composite Velocity prototype hull in 1981, that he and Gene Whipp raced at the Key West World's. I was so impressed with it and the strength/weight ratio, that we used an improved version of that construction concept in all of our Conquest Cats..... and I freely admit that as well.

Good 'ol Rocky Top....... Rocky Top Tennesseeeeeeee

:D :D

T2x

Audiofn 12-29-2006 10:10 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 
Reed I always thought that was what was so fun about those boats.... :D:D

T2x 12-29-2006 10:12 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 

Originally Posted by Reed Jensen (Post 1976321)
A buddy of mine recently purchased a new Allison... It's fast, but above 50 it becomes a balancing act to keep it on the pad. Not fun to drive at those speeds. You are constantly jabbing the wheel to the left to keep it on the pad, and if it falls off the pad... it goes into a super scary chine walk..... :mad:

We all went through that ..........it takes a delicate and subtle touch.

FYI...... My Allison race boat pictured above.... had two right hand rotation engines...... That rig made a single engine version seem like a walk in the park.

T2x

T2x 12-29-2006 10:43 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 

Originally Posted by boater-rs (Post 1975850)
I agree with the Allisons. They were winning eveything with the pad bottom, and the first to do it. Then the Hydrostreams and early Checkmates (from wild Bill in Ohio) followed. The 15' Checkmates were a favorite around west Detroit. Anyone know where Sammy is now?? He sold the Checkmates on Warren Ave. I cannot remember the name of the dealer.

Sad thing is when Checkmate is mentioned..... "Wild Bill" Combs is always credited...... yet the company was founded and conceived by he and his equal partner.... the late Bill Downard...who was both a creative and stabilizing influence during the company's formative years.

T2x

RBT 12-29-2006 10:58 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 
Howard Pip is held up on a pedestal that is somewhat like Reggies....... everyone thinks he is an innovator... when in fact all he is, is a marketer.
Pip, got his bottom from Allison.......The pad on a V-King.... is 100% 15' allison.........
The HST is a Stoker

....... from someone that was there:evilb:

RT

Dd24skater 12-29-2006 11:12 AM

Re: How much innovation could one boat stand?
 

Originally Posted by FeverMike (Post 1973931)
that is awesome!

I think Fountain got the beak idea from Hydrostream. That is the style of boats he was around the most and I believe that is where the idea came from.

I always thought Reggie's beak idea came from Hydrostream, I wonder if it's true?


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