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DaveP 02-12-2007 02:01 PM

Fountain Powerboat Industries reported a loss of profits
 
How can a company post a loss and lay off 150 people last week when it has a $50 million dollar backlog of orders???? Unless it was bull$hit?????? naaaaaaaaaaaaa say it ain't so? :eek:

Fountain Powerboat Industries reported a loss of profits
Fountain Powerboat Industries’ profits fell during its second quarter, amid a sluggish retail environment.

The company today reported a net loss for the quarter ended Dec. 31 of $1.4 million, compared to profits of $319,296 for the comparable quarter in 2006.

“The overall marine industry has experienced a downward trend for some time and I’m pleased that we have performed well in a difficult environment,” said CEO Reggie Fountain, in a statement.

Fountain says the company is experiencing a decline in dealer orders largely in part to the typically slow season and dealer reluctance to increase inventories.

Sales slipped to $13 million, a decrease of $5 million compared to sales of $18.2 million during the same quarter a year ago.

“The good news is that sales of larger powerboats are expected to show stabilized growth trends, as the economic uncertainties have less impact on our target market,” said Fountain. “But we are finding, along with our peer companies, that it now takes significantly more effort to reach this market.”

The company this year has boosted its presence at boat shows. Company representatives have attended regional and international boat shows to support and assist dealers. The company also plans to boost its presence at the Miami International Boat Show, which opens Thursday.

“We feel confident that stabilized gasoline prices and interest rates, along with a healthy economy, will boost consumer and dealer confidence in the third and fourth quarters,” said Fountain.

The company last year launched a lean manufacturing pilot program. The company has reduced final assembly hours by 51 percent, a reduction of production hours by 35 percent, and it eliminated overtime.

DaveP 02-12-2007 02:06 PM

Hair color riding wave of surging sales!
 
On the flip side of things.............:D :D

Hair color riding wave of surging sales!!

Drug Store News, January 7, 2007 by Liz Parks

Hair color is another hot growth segment in ethnic beauty care. According to Information Resources Inc, dollar sales of hair color were up 9 percent, while unit sales were up 6 percent for the 52 weeks ended Dec. 1, 2006.

Carson Products president Joyce Roche, who markets one of the leading ethnic color brands, Dark & Lovely, said that buyers can expect to see demand for hair color increasing, driven by fashion and by the demographic changes such as the aging of the baby boomers.

Roche also pointed out that retailers are getting strongly behind the merchandising and marketing of ethnic hair colors, helping "to take sales to a higher level."

Downtown42 02-12-2007 02:14 PM

Good, they need to raise the prices on new boats. Thank you for your interest in Fountain Powerboats:D

BBB725 02-12-2007 02:21 PM

Reggie is doing what put Ford out of business when they first started. They keep changing their hull every year and absorb the cost of doing it.
Fountain has to decide on how to proceed, make money or keep changing the hulls.

the duke 02-12-2007 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by DaveP (Post 2024318)
How can a company post a loss and lay off 150 people last week when it has a $50 million dollar backlog of orders???? .

where does it say in the reports that they laid off people?

NickOTeen 02-12-2007 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by BBB725 (Post 2024342)
Reggie is doing what put Ford out of business when they first started. They keep changing their hull every year and absorb the cost of doing it.
Fountain has to decide on how to proceed, make money or keep changing the hulls.


According to Powerboat magazine the fact that Reggie and Fountain Powerboats have never filed bankruptcy speaks to the business acumen of Reggie. Is this suppose to be a compliment? I expect the next annual report to go something like this.

Dear Shareholder,
We had another wonderful year at Fountain Powerboats. Our stock is trading for peanuts, but we managed to stay out of bankruptcy again this year. Our founder Reggie Fountain deserves all the credit. He had the foresight to focus all of our potential profits on Cat Killer, which is now cleaning the clocks of many pleasure cat's on the poker run circuit.

Donzi38ZXXX 02-12-2007 03:59 PM

Maybe the ZR's sre taking some of the market share!

sakoutis3 02-12-2007 04:00 PM

Reggie cancled the factory support for the racers this year now you know why. Last Fountain spent 2 million dollars on their race program.If they would have cancelled it last year they would have been in the green 1/2 a mil.

Dock Holiday 02-12-2007 04:11 PM

Whether you like Reggie or hate him, you do have to respect him.

Personally I think the boating industry would be very boring without him and wish him and his company the very best.

They did have a factory guy in Charlotte, David Price and the 38 they had with 700's and #6 drives was VERY nice and priced below a Formula 353 that was at the same show with 525's.

I do understand from an outside source that Brunswick still holds an option to buy the company.

deboatmon 02-12-2007 04:19 PM

Fountain Powerboats
 
I believe you guys just might be missing the point here. The end of year profit and loss columns can be somewhat missleading. I guess it would depend on your stock holdings on how you feel about that. Many corporations give huge bonuses and even loans to principals just before the end of the year to lessen the corporate tax burden. Coporate tax can be at a somewhat higher rate than even high dollar personal tax.

This not to say anything with absolute surety, but I'd guess that there just might have been some pretty hefty bonuses paid to some persons before the final tax tally was presented to the tax gods. Of course these bonuses might be loaned back to the corporation just after the new year. Who know ?

There are a lot of Fountains sold, so who realy knows.

crb76 02-12-2007 04:31 PM

Not many have made money in the performance boat building business...It’s a credit to him that he has a real business that we can talk about Profit and Loss. He is also a great promoter for the sport/ industry.

With that said, I am not a big fan of the product but a lot of people do.

Need-the-Speed 02-12-2007 05:09 PM

perhaps the pr could be a result of Fountains relationship with Mercury. I guess, over the past years, it has been easy for somebody that doesn't pay the bills to post PR about "another banner Year" or "record sales" "Profits, Profits" etc. etc., Wasn't Reggie into Mercury for Millions thus the new relationship? I could be way off on this one as I've only picked up bits and pieces in passing. I assume they had to tapper into this type of PR so they wouldn't scare anybody.:rolleyes:





All in All Reggie makes a great Boat! At least I like em'! :drink:

TexomaPowerboater 02-12-2007 05:58 PM

Fountain is the only SEC boat manufacturing companies (that I know of) - which is a huge accomplishment in itself.

I was sold on the 29 until I found out about the rough water capability and beak factor.

docmanrich37 02-12-2007 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Donzi38ZXXX (Post 2024452)
Maybe the ZR's sre taking some of the market share!

And the A/Ts too.:D

cosmic12 02-12-2007 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by docmanrich37 (Post 2024615)
And the A/Ts too.:D

there has been a couple Beak converts lately:evilb:

the duke 02-12-2007 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2024471)
I do understand from an outside source that Brunswick still holds an option to buy the company.

Not according to their SEC filings. They may have a private deal with Reggie who owns control, but the loan guarentees have been released.

the duke 02-12-2007 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by DaveP (Post 2024318)
How can a company post a loss and lay off 150 people last week when it has a $50 million dollar backlog of orders?.

They could have a Billion dollar backlog of orders and still show a loss for the quarter. It depends on when they are built/shipped/paid for etc.

DaveP 02-13-2007 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by the duke (Post 2024929)
They could have a Billion dollar backlog of orders and still show a loss for the quarter. It depends on when they are built/shipped/paid for etc.

There is NO backlog :D

Downtown42 02-13-2007 09:18 AM

Love him or hate him....

"Reggie, will you be my Valentine?"

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...42/poodle1.jpg

100-Plus 02-13-2007 09:42 AM

NickOTeen,

Not going bankrupt ain't exactly hero work, I agree, but what the PB article said, if you read it, is that not going bankrupt is "great source of price" for Fountain. The guy who wrote the article quoted Reggie on subject, but made no comment one way or another on his "business acumen."

DollaBill 02-13-2007 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by 100-Plus (Post 2025219)
NickOTeen,

Not going bankrupt ain't exactly hero work, I agree, but what the PB article said, if you read it, is that not going bankrupt is "great source of price" for Fountain. The guy who wrote the article quoted Reggie on subject, but made no comment one way or another on his "business acumen."

Not going bankrupt in the boat building business IS an accomplishment. Cigarette has done it 6 or seven times. NOT KNOCKING THEM. Just telling it like it is.

100-Plus 02-13-2007 11:33 AM

F-N-IGuy.com,

You now, when you look at the history of boat compaies, especially performance-boat companies, you're probably right.

DollaBill 02-13-2007 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by 100-Plus (Post 2025316)
F-N-IGuy.com,

You now, when you look at the history of boat compaies, especially performance-boat companies, you're probably right.

Been into these things since I was 4 or 5 years old. It's a fact. I know Reggie personally and the ONLY reason he is still in business is because he is THAT determined to win and NEVER, EVER stops working.

the duke 02-13-2007 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by F-N-iGuy.com (Post 2025296)
Not going bankrupt in the boat building business IS an accomplishment. Cigarette has done it 6 or seven times. .

When you start to make a list of the companies that have and have not ever gone bankrupt building boats, the list of the HAVE is longer than the have not.

THEJOKER 02-13-2007 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by F-N-iGuy.com (Post 2025296)
Not going bankrupt in the boat building business IS an accomplishment. Cigarette has done it 6 or seven times. NOT KNOCKING THEM. Just telling it like it is.

That's exactly right! Reggie is King and not a sellout!

Panther 02-13-2007 04:17 PM

SEC listing doesn't impress me... I don't know of any Wall Street traders who buy/sell Fountain stock as an investment... I might buy a little stock if I were a Fountain owner, to support the cause, but it ain't gonna make me rich. :rolleyes: Being public can actually hurt them, they're probably better off not being publicly traded. Then we would only hear about how they sell boats, making Cat Killers etc.,, not about profit loss/margin... LOL :eureka:

the duke 02-13-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2025600)
Being public can actually hurt them, they're probably better off not being publicly traded.

If Reggie wanted to throw in an other $9million, he could take them private. The Market cap is only $18million, and he already ownes control

BamBam 02-14-2007 07:07 AM

Did I understand correctly there is no money for race teams anymore? Is that the reason there are so many Fountain Race Boats for sale this year?

GLH 02-14-2007 07:24 AM

Ups and down of business....

DaveP 02-14-2007 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 2026124)
Did I understand correctly there is no money for race teams anymore? Is that the reason there are so many Fountain Race Boats for sale this year?

Bubba in KW is going to have to look for a new Sugar Daddy :D


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