UNBELIEVABLE! Cancelled flight!
 

So much for the Miami show:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I say the 3 of us drive ! :drink:

At least you didn't board and get the experience the pleasure of sitting on the tarmac for 10 hours. :eek:
http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_046052033.html


Seriously, that blows. :(

Sorry that sucks big time

I'm with you, I also got canceled. However I was fortunate enough to get rescheduled to Friday and was able to push my vacation out two days. :D

I have been on the phone with every airline out there. Every airline is booked till Sunday afternoon. I tried calling travel agents to see if they could do something. No go.
Sharkey, We could be there in 17-18 hours if you like. I'd get a one way rental & then fly home. We could be there in time for the party tomorrow night!

What airline are you dealing with?

Mine To I Was Flying Jet Blue/// Lets Get That Car And Go ,,Tim You In ,,,Only Problem I Canceled The Room I Had And I Bet Its Already Gone

that really suks, of all times to have travel delays.

Lightspeed, I was supposed to be on Jet Blue flight #81. The bastards kept saying it was delayed until around 3pm. If the folkers told us earlier, we might have had a chance at another flight.

$ hit :(
Dave,
I have to pass... I am still too sick to try to make that kind of a trip right now.. :(

Driving is probably your best bet.

That sucks!!!:(

The problem every year (even without weather problems) is the fact that there is alot going on in Florida this weekend. The simple truth is that they overbook the chit out of the flights.....weather REALLY screws it up on top of that (if it turns).

That Daytona 500, the boat show and there is usually some huge ***-azzed art show going on as well. I made the huge mistake of flying stand-by on some Delta buddy passes back in 2000. Got booted off in Atlanta and ended up to not getting a seat on the next 12 flights.:rolleyes: We ended up renting a car and driving from Atlanta to Miami. We had to do it.....our luggage made it to Miami on the original flight!!:drink:

I talked to Otis this morning, they were in Maryland driving after he and Billy's flts got cancelled. :eek:

Come on guys, I know there are a few pilots here. If not, I'm up for a one way road trip but it has to start pretty damn quick. I used to drive solo with my dually & "wild child F2-07" from here & be in Palm beach in 18 hours. A bunch of drunks could make it in 17 to miami with a good radar detector, a wing & a prayor. Let's go!!

Oh well, all attempts on flying have failed. I tried going as far as Washington DC (5-6 hr drive) & no flights available.
I am sooooooooo damn pissed off you wouldn't believe. I've NEVER been unable to get a flight. Price is not an issue & I still can't do it.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Damn Dave..... did you try flying out of Westchester?

Sorry to hear that Dave....:(

Were there even flights available for coming back ?

I would think you probably still had yours at least...

Man that SUCKS Dave!!! If I was not dealing with the new T-man then I would have run down with ya!!! I can not believe that they could not get you on another flight!!!

Jon

Thanks for your thoughts everyone!
Delta just came through with a flight tomorrow evening. I should be at the OSO/FPC party by 11pm.
I just can't believe how bad the airlines did today. Yes, I know we had a few hours of bad weather but...............
There is no reason Jet Blue should have strung me along all day today, just to tell me the flight is cancelled 4 hours after it was supposed to leave. I'm hoppin mad:mad:

Not trying to defend the airlines because everyone F's up.... However you much rather the pilot be on the ground wishing we were in the air than in the air praying that we can make it to the ground in one piece....

Take a look at NTSB reports and see where "get there itis" can get you.....

Just got my issue of Aviation Monthly safety summary and report. Alot of the accidents are just that!!!

I have been on a few of those flights!!! Two trips ago on my return from Orlando I think we landed 3 times!!!! I was freeking out. One of those landings that if you were not strapped in you were going to hit the roof!!

A lot of people don't realize that flying is a privilege not a right.... If weather or the government intervenes there is not a lot us pilots can do.

We just got in! Our flight got canceled last night and got stuck in Vegas... could have been worse. US Air gave us a hotel and got us in as early as they could today.

Just had dinner and later drinks with B Teague and crew. Finanly met met Destin from Donzi. Sweet time so far.

Hope the rest of you guys make it in. Good luck.

I hear you guys (& gals). I am NOT one of those complaining cry babies who yell at the airline folks. If they don't think it's safe to fly, I'm with them! Anyway, I'm off tomorrow for a cool $900+ bucks. I don't care what it costs as long as I make it!!!!!!!!

I've seen what happens when people ignore weather. Not commercial, grew up around general aviation aircraft.

From Aviation Monthly

Throw in a $200 tip and I 'll drive you ....................:evilb:

Our Thursday 7:00 out of Philly was also a know go, re-booked & now stay from Sat until Tue.

Man what a mess, this is not the first time we had this happen!

I used to have a job that required flights every week to some God forsaken place or another constantly. Leave on Sunday to make the Monday morning meeting, then travel to the next meeting, on and on, sometimes making the meetings sometimes not. Most times never making it back home Friday night, having to wait until Saturday to finally get home, then back on the plane Sunday evening. 10 years of this shat, and for what, didn't do my career any good at all. This all before 9/11 when the airlines had empty seats a lot of the time (except special events or holidays) was priemer frequent flyer with three airlines at the same time and still could not get from A to B guaranteed when I wanted to. Gave it all up, now, instead of the "factory guy", I am on the "distributor side" and traded flying for driving (about 30,000 miles year) but just in the state of Florida. After 9/11, and the fact that most airlines dumped their schedules to keep airplanes full, if there is just a little bump in plane availability, the whole system crashes, I feel for you. I really hate driving so much but it is the lesser of the evils of having to work for someone else.

I just had a call from a guy I built a house for. He flys private all the time & he is looking into getting a plane for me. It's not going to br free but if we get a few guys together, it could be reasonable

That is so true! I fly commercial every week or so and I've seen it all with upset rude people.

The American public also forgets that their drivers license is a priviledge too.

Make the party by 11pm? Hell if I couldn't at least do both Friday & Saturday at the show AND the Friday activities, i wouldn't go. Unless of course you have friends/family to fill the voids.

Otherwise the cup-half-full approach would be the money saved could go to another poker run registration or some new boat bling....:D

We're not making it to the show this year, but we will be next year.

Lofty, when do you return? I'm in Miami Mon thru Wed, Rob arrives into Ft Myers on Wed then we're there for a week in Naples. You sticking around the area by any chance?

Barb, we're leaving late Sunday. I have a bussy week comming up so I can't hang around. Sorry I'm going to miss you both.

Then there's the accidents that don't get reported to the NTSB because there were no death's or property loss involved. From what I understand from private pilots that I know, the accident numbers reported are a lot lower than actuals. :eek:

Commercial, that's a different story all together... If someone farts, they know..

Anyway, I know someone who flew in from Ft. Lauderdale to NJ today. Bumpy flight, barf bags were being used and other people were giving people their barf bags as back-up!! :eek: :eek: :drink:

DJD, I'm glad to hear you found a flight to FL. This reminds me of you trying to get there in 2003 to meet up with Barb and me about the Cigarette.

I've had the privilege of being able to fly since 1991, earning my pilot's certificate at age 39. I've had the opportunity to fly many different types of aircraft, from bug smashers to warbirds, and I've enjoyed every single minute.

As an instrument-rated private pilot I take my flying very seriously. Fun flying is supposed to be just that- fun. After you've checked weather enroute and at the destination and alternate, as well as how far you may have to fly to get to VFR conditions if the destination goes below minimums (or God-forbid, you have an equipment failure enroute) you need to decide if the trip is worth risking the lives of the friends and/or family that are trusting you to keep them alive and out of harm's way.

I've had my share of friends that have made the wrong decision. Some managed to keep themselves and their passengers alive. Unfortunately some others didn't.

The short version is;
If it doesn't feel right, put the bird back in the hangar.

Worst commercial experience; the L1011 circled in a figure of eight pattern turn sharply and dove towards the runway. We landed on one wheel on the right side with the nose up. The right wing almost struck the ground. My Brother was with me and I said thats the closest I've ever come to crashing! The flight crew on the taxi to the gate said nothin, no welcome, no remain seated, nothing!

On the return flight the planes where all running late because of winter storms, etc. When I found out it was the same pilot flying us home I took another flight!!!!!


My Dad made my Brothers and I take flying lessons; if he became incapacitated he wanted one of us to be able to at least land! My first lesson did stalls and spins, the latter my Dad freaked about. He did'nt freak because spins are dangerous, thought that was a good lesson for us! He freaked cause on the panel a placard clearly said: "spins prohibited in this aircraft!" Several months latter that flight instructor was killed in a plane crash along with one of his students, the other passenger survived, but was severely injured!!!

The pilot probably had the option of holding (flying the published or approved holding pattern) hoping the visibility at the airport would go above minimums. When the controller told him the RVR was above minimums he shot the abbreviated approach and made the landing (and probably violated the minimums anyway). That's just another form of get-home-itis.

Many primary training aircraft are not approved for spins. Others are approved for spins when they are being flown in "utility" category (the difference is in how much the plane weighs and/or where the occupants are sitting). When I took primary training spins were no longer a mandatory item. I did take aerobatic training in warbirds and let me tell you, losing a thousand feet a turn is the spin before recovery gets your attention.
If it takes three turns to recover and you are only 2500 feet AGL you're gonna make an expensive hole in the dirt.
My aerobatics instructor was approved for zero altitude airshow performances and did a great job. He passed away of old age a few years ago.

Should point out the commercial flight was into Cuba so no ILS, poor English speaking controlers, etc!

The manager of the airport my Dad keeps his plane's crashed a pitts practicing for airshow performance at the airport. I was licensed in Canada, spins are required training, but not in the U.S.