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open87 02-23-2007 07:15 PM

nice Pantera
 
put some fresh paint and better trailer , would be a great package for the $$$$.. like that it has small blocks and ITS..

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...2&limit=recent

glassdave 02-23-2007 08:10 PM

man that is a nice package. those ITS's really clean up a transom.

BRUCE SEROFF 02-23-2007 08:34 PM

great deal , considering you have 25k bolted to the back of the boat. Granted, the boat is an 81. But if its clean and it runs, you got your moneys worth and then some.

dave911 02-23-2007 11:03 PM

TTT. Nice boat!

open87 02-24-2007 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF (Post 2036757)
great deal , considering you have 25k bolted to the back of the boat. Granted, the boat is an 81. But if its clean and it runs, you got your moneys worth and then some.

that's a true statement , am i would belive that Pantera put the same workmanship into a 81 the same as they do today.

i wonder how that boat handles with those ITS drive set ups..

i belive that is the best "bargin" i have seen to date for a 28.

TexomaPowerboater 02-24-2007 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by open72 (Post 2037031)
that's a true statement , am i would belive that Pantera put the same workmanship into a 81 the same as they do today.

i wonder how that boat handles with those ITS drive set ups..

i belive that is the best "bargin" i have seen to date for a 28.

I agree.

What are the major differences, if any, of a somewhat new Pantera and this really old Pantera? Any difference in materials/fiberglass layup? I know the interior is different. What about performance? Lighter/Heavier?

My problem is this - If I buy the boat I am sure that I will really enjoy it for about 5 years. After five years I would probobly need to drop in some new engines because the ones he has are rebuilt. New pair of 6.2 mercs rigged say $15,000. 25+15=40 and you still have a 1981 that you may get $30 for. Or I just sell the boat and upgrade to a newer one after five years of use. So why not go ahead and buy a newer one now for $50-65. If in the long run you know you will end up spending the same amount of money - wouldn't it be better to just have a newer one now.

Not trying to disrepect the owner of the boat, this is my opinion on most older boats. That being said I posted this with the hope that someone would try and explain why this analysis may be wrong.

rchevelle71 02-24-2007 10:43 AM

I have a 1982, and the Quality is the same if not better than it is now, with a good survey, this thing is a STEAL!!!!

dave911 02-24-2007 11:27 AM

Texoma,
#1. Be happy for 5 years on $25k, and then sell her for $5k with shot motors. Keep the next $15k (from the new 6.2s and put her in your next toy). Your cost will be only $4k per year!

#2. If you really wanna get smart. Spend $25k on the boat now. Invest the other $35k you were gonna spend on a bigger/faster boat for 5 years at 10%.
After the 5 years, you'll have had a great time boating, and $60k in your pocket ($5k from selling the Pantera, and another $55k (or so) from your investments with a $25k return. In a warped boaters mind, that's 5 years of free boating, plus some big coin for the next 5 years!

Semper Fi 02-24-2007 11:30 AM

That's a great deal! Somebody should pick this boat up quickly for that price

AIR TIME 02-24-2007 12:27 PM

if I was working I'D TAKE A 2ND ON THE HOUSE grab it pull the 350s put one in my baja, take all the new stuff out of the baja sell the other 350, fill the transom on the pan put in my 670hp motor and have a extra itt, b1 drive sell the baja with the used stuff from pan, so I'd get 10 to 13 for the baja and have the pan for 12gs with a single that would be faster than the sm blocksor sell my baja with the 670hp and put in a new 572 or 598 motor which I want nexted anyway 800hp.

AIR TIME 02-24-2007 12:30 PM

Does the ITS have builtin hdry steering?? didn't see any rams out side.

Hot Duck 02-24-2007 12:52 PM

The ITS drives do have hydraulic steering very similar to the setup on the #6 drives.

cuda 02-24-2007 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2037249)
I agree.

What are the major differences, if any, of a somewhat new Pantera and this really old Pantera? Any difference in materials/fiberglass layup? I know the interior is different. What about performance? Lighter/Heavier?

My problem is this - If I buy the boat I am sure that I will really enjoy it for about 5 years. After five years I would probobly need to drop in some new engines because the ones he has are rebuilt. New pair of 6.2 mercs rigged say $15,000. 25+15=40 and you still have a 1981 that you may get $30 for. Or I just sell the boat and upgrade to a newer one after five years of use. So why not go ahead and buy a newer one now for $50-65. If in the long run you know you will end up spending the same amount of money - wouldn't it be better to just have a newer one now.

Not trying to disrepect the owner of the boat, this is my opinion on most older boats. That being said I posted this with the hope that someone would try and explain why this analysis may be wrong.

I figure the small blocks will last well over five years with proper maintenance. Besides, anyone who counts up money in this sport shouldn't be in it. I quit doing that years ago. I figure this is my hobby. Suppose I liked to play golf for a sport. Flew all over, played the nicest courses etc, I wouldn't expect any of that money back either.

Back to the original subject, it looks like a damn good deal.

Pismo10 02-24-2007 04:07 PM

Tough to convert a twin to a single. That huge center stringer in right in the way. They are built from day one to be either single or twin setups.

This boat must have originally had TRSs (with 454s) which were filled and Bravos mounted. Looks like that was done well but who knows. Wonder what the interior and cabin look like.

open87 02-24-2007 05:11 PM

maybe the owner will post some more pics...the hardware on the transom has got to be close on the asking price... what are those ITS'S worth?
what state is that ?? wisconsin?

Pismo10 02-24-2007 05:18 PM

According to something I read here a while back a 24' Pantera has about 400lbs more glass back then. So a 28 probably does too.

BRUCE SEROFF 02-24-2007 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by open72 (Post 2037591)
maybe the owner will post some more pics...the hardware on the transom has got to be close on the asking price... what are those ITS'S worth?
what state is that ?? wisconsin?

BINGO!!!!

Good price for a pair of ITS setups is 12-13k. Add a good price on a pair of XRs 12k. you got 25k. you got the boat for free. = pretty good deal to me

rchevelle71 02-24-2007 09:53 PM

We need to get the owner or someone who knows the boat on here, this thing is a steal, if I didnt have all my $$$ tied up in the 24, and my land up north, and paying the insurance bill on my house in FL, I would be on a plane to see it tomorrow.

tblrklakemo 02-24-2007 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2037364)
Does the ITS have builtin hdry steering?? didn't see any rams out side.

I dont see them either.....just stand offs.

glassdave 02-24-2007 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tblrklakemo (Post 2037848)
I dont see them either.....just stand offs.


the steering in integrated . . . thus integrated tramsom system or ITS . . . Volvos been do'in it for years :D

the ram is right under that trim hose there

AIR TIME 02-25-2007 03:22 AM

I see it now:D thanks

open87 02-25-2007 07:05 AM

a moment on clarity:D

open87 02-26-2007 06:24 PM

not sold yet...can't belive no one scooped up this deal

Stormrider 02-26-2007 09:17 PM

angel, 'pantera24' did this 4-5yrs ago, but the hardware on his boat wasn't as nice.
he sent the boat back to jo/pepe for updating for like another 20k. so you could have this boat fully updated for 45k.
in 3-4yrs, pull the sbcs, have them rebuilt at 7-10k each and make them 500hp. :)
if you are worried about what you will sell it for... don't buy it.
btw, angels old 28 is, or was just for sale for like 90k. :eek:


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