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Old 03-28-2007, 10:31 PM
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Why would anyone want it? It is very simple to convert
an R-12 system to 134 and it works quite well. Just
flush,put on a new drier/accumulator,change the mineral
oil to ester oil,install new fittings & charge with r-134.
Works perfect.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:17 AM
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Why would anyone want it? It is very simple to convert
an R-12 system to 134 and it works quite well. Just
flush,put on a new drier/accumulator,change the mineral
oil to ester oil,install new fittings & charge with r-134.
Works perfect.
Sometimes. Many CCOT systems require a smaller diameter orifice tube to control evaporater core flooding.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:19 AM
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R12 Freon was mainly used in older vehicles and a few marine ac applications. Todays's are R22 and R134a. R12 is an extremely rare commodity.

Not trying to burst any bubbles here but take a look at this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/R-12-...01684521QQrdZ1
wow,$575 USD for a 30 lb jug, I remember paying 30 bucks Canadian when I started doing a/c. I think 400 a jug was the last I paid when it was still legal in Canada.
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Thanks for the input. I knew it was worth a fair bit of money, but surprised its going for $575.
I will weigh it and see what its really worth and make sure the buyer has the proper license.
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I have ac in my 1986 cig. It worked fine in 98 when I bought it. But now it does not. Would I expect my system to be R12? I'm considering selling the boat and wonder should I recharge(r12), refirb (R134) or replace all together. I don't use the ac much, so my concern would be for the next owner . Sugestions appreciated.
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:21 PM
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The cost of labor is so high that it's not worth it on most older vehicles to convert over. Very quick and easy to do a evac/recharge vs. conversion to r134a. Most people that own a car that is still r12 will not spend the extra dough to upgrade. Besides, an r12 system will outperform an r134a system hands down.
Yes,but what happens after your $25 a lb R-12 leaks
out. Recharge it again with more R-12?. At least after
a conversion if you develop a leak it doesn't cost
squat to recharge after a repair. I do tons of A/C
work in my shop & stopped using R-12 4 years ago.
It just wasnt cost effective. Also after measuring many
properly working systems,there is very little difference
between a R-12 system & a R-134 system. 2-3 degrees
at the top end.
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Illegal!!!! What the hell are you guys smoking....or are you sniffing tooo much of the newer freons

How much do you want and what do you want to pay for it?
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How Much Is R12 Worth , I Have 2 Full Unopened Cans .
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I also have 2 or 3 full jugs if anyone is interested
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Today the (wholesale) ranges from $737.00 to $890.00 (Depending on the distributor)

I still have 32 (30#) bottles of it left.....But have not been using it. It's better to change the customer over to the replacements

A friend had a bottle of R-12 in LA and when Katrina came through and blew a tree down on his garage....it burst the bottle. He wanted to buy one from me....but the cost to ship it is ridiculous
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