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MacGyver 03-31-2007 04:59 PM

Circular or orbital buffer?
 
Any recommendations? What experiences do you have with either one. Looking to bring the finish back on my other boat before I sell it.

Zudnic 03-31-2007 06:52 PM

The orbital buffer because its the least aggressive tool for about the same job and results; less likely to make burning mistakes! I have a porter cable so I also buy my polish at autbody supply store's. Most polish sold elsewere are designed for hand. Using a hand polish with a machine will cause the polish to break down too quickly, and you won't get enough cutting action (borrowed from auto paint book). Un-like a reg. parts retail store, the guys at a pro supply place can help recomend the best machine polish for the job.

If you use it on the boat, bet your car(s), truck(s), etc will follow.

allenk4 03-31-2007 07:58 PM

autopia dot com

monstaaa 03-31-2007 10:20 PM

3m has a vast product line for polishing. a circular polishing machine is best for cutting and removing material on aged surfaces or marred surfaces. the use of pad material differs on type of use, and by pad i mean wool or foam and which grade of foam. wool burns easier on clear coat custom finished paint work. even with experienced hands.
the orbital makes for a good final finishing in order to keep from getting swirl marks.

GEORGE YURICK 03-31-2007 10:22 PM

if the boat is the least bit oxidized dont even waste your time with an orbital....and as far as burning...if its gelcot....lay into it...you will not burn it....

Cap206 03-31-2007 10:40 PM

0rbital is more for polishing or waxing.If you have a haze to get rid of buff it first with wool pad,foam pad,then an orbital to bring out the depth and work out the swirls.

Zudnic 03-31-2007 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by monstaaa (Post 2077520)
3m has a vast product line for polishing..

True 3m is the best product. It's expensive stuff.......

Should add there is two kinds of orbital polisher. One is no better than doing it by hand. The other will do the same job as a circular. The top pic is good and can be bought at Lowes for around $140. The bottom are all garbage!!!

nocigarette 04-01-2007 06:47 AM

never seen that porter cable at lowes....Is it a small version kind of like a small dewalt grinder....oh and how many rpm is it.....Just curious always used the dewalt but they are getting exspensive

t500hps 04-01-2007 07:12 AM

Yeah those orbitals that cost $59.999 are junk.....I'm paying someone to do mine now. I have one of those cheap ones like the second pic above and if I put any pressure on the hull at all I can stop the motor from spinning.

Macklin 04-01-2007 07:33 AM

Porter Cable buffer like pictured above is the best! I got mine online at Griots Garage for like $199. That's a deal if true.

It's a must have if you wax the boat as often as I do. I can do from the rub rail down in about 30 minutes.

MF 04-01-2007 07:35 AM

Go with Makita ! 9227 Cb or PV 7000 C

marineclean 04-01-2007 08:13 AM

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90820

Go to Harborfreight.com

I bought a couple of Chicagos 3 years ago and they have taken a beating and still lived to tell about it. They are an inexpensive alternative that works well. I wouldn't go spend 199.00 + for something you might only use a couple of times.

BTW, All you need is my Oxidation remover and a foam pad!

marineclean 04-01-2007 08:18 AM

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Here's the pic.

Strip Poker 388 04-01-2007 08:44 AM

I have 2 of these Makita Polishers , Alot of the compounds are requiring the faster speeds now,I use the yellow wool 3M pad with 3M Finess it II.It is very mild.But will bring it out,it will buff off a sticker or pin strip if ya not carefull, next I go with the foam pad with the foam pad 3m glaze,Then I wax it with a 10 inch obortal w/ Meguiar's NXT Generation Tech Wax or Mothers.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...7GGIH%26sa%3DN


http://www.repaintsupply.com/pd_finesseit_ii.cfm#


http://www.repaintsupply.com/pd_perfectit_foam.cfm


http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...7GGIH%26sa%3DG

http://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-G-127.../dp/B0002UQATS

MacGyver 04-01-2007 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by marineclean (Post 2077657)
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=90820

Go to Harborfreight.com

I bought a couple of Chicagos 3 years ago and they have taken a beating and still lived to tell about it. They are an inexpensive alternative that works well. I wouldn't go spend 199.00 + for something you might only use a couple of times.

BTW, All you need is my Oxidation remover and a foam pad!

If I get a circular, I'm getting a Milwaukee. Made in America. Not some cheap import chit. :drink:

marineclean 04-01-2007 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by MacGyver (Post 2077709)
If I get a circular, I'm getting a Milwaukee. Made in America. Not some cheap import chit. :drink:

Cool! It's on Sale for $199. Press #1 for English. :drink:

http://www.cpomilwaukee.com/sanders_...rs/5460-6.html

nocigarette 04-01-2007 10:09 AM

good comeback

MacGyver 04-01-2007 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by nocigarette (Post 2077759)
good comeback

Ouch.:(


Just trying to do my part to keep Americans working.

marineclean 04-01-2007 11:47 AM

Hey now, Don't take it the wrong way. I believe in keeping Americans working as well, but the internals are most likely from overseas as with many other power tools. It suxs I agree, but we can't seem to quit using foreign parts.

Zudnic 04-01-2007 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by nocigarette (Post 2077610)
never seen that porter cable at lowes....Is it a small version kind of like a small dewalt grinder....oh and how many rpm is it.....Just curious always used the dewalt but they are getting exspensive

variable 2,500-6,000 RPM. Had the Black & Decker before it was Dewalt, circular same vari speed and around the same price. With pc's non-machine polish materials are pointless cause they are too fast to work properly. Might have been Home Depot bought it to replace stolen b&d.

Breathe Later 04-01-2007 01:04 PM

polisher
 
www.cyclotoolmakers.com

Powerboat did an article on this unit a while ago. It's used by Blue Angels, Air Force One, etc.

Sea-Dated 04-01-2007 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Breathe Later (Post 2077909)
www.cyclotoolmakers.com

Powerboat did an article on this unit a while ago. It's used by Blue Angels, Air Force One, etc.

Those are nice but $$$$$:eek: :eek:


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