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stageharbor 04-19-2007 02:06 PM

Does Virgina have ethanol in its fuel
 
I Brought a Boat up from Virgina to Maine for a customer. and need to know if there if ethanol fuel in the tank. Maine has mtbe in the fuel.

Ted G 04-19-2007 02:52 PM

Va uses ethanol

TexomaPowerboater 04-19-2007 03:07 PM

As far as I know Oklahoma is the only state that does not put ethanol in their gas - guess were I fill up at......

Reckless32 04-19-2007 03:29 PM

Became mandatory in Virginia as of May 1st, 2006. I just heard on the news last night that a new study is indicating that Ethanol is "worse" for the environment and public health? I know it's worse for my boat's fuel system....:mad:

t500hps 04-19-2007 03:50 PM

Not all of VA has it.....some of the very rural areas do not run it.....I used to tow out of the way to fill with non-ethanol fuels.

Brian C 04-19-2007 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by t500hps (Post 2099366)
Not all of VA has it.....some of the very rural areas do not run it.....I used to tow out of the way to fill with non-ethanol fuels.

TRUE. In my county they don't have it & one county over they do.

stageharbor 04-19-2007 06:10 PM

Thanks The boat came from Virgina beach.

99fever27 04-19-2007 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Brian C (Post 2099421)
TRUE. In my county they don't have it & one county over they do.

Do you know if the pumps around Anna have it? Their pumps arent marked for it.

t500hps 04-19-2007 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by stageharbor (Post 2099541)
Thanks The boat came from Virgina beach.

Defintely had ethanol there.

Sydwayz 04-19-2007 09:11 PM

Metropolitan area... more than likely.

I don't believe the counties around Lake Anna have Ethanol.

Off the top of my head:

Henrico: Yes
Hanover: Yes
Caroline: No
King William: No
King & Queen: No
Prince William: Yes

Pumps are to be CLEARLY marked "Contains 10% Ethanol" if its in the mix. Linster had a map showing all of the counties that have and don't have.

LostinBoston 04-20-2007 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Reckless32 (Post 2099336)
Became mandatory in Virginia as of May 1st, 2006. I just heard on the news last night that a new study is indicating that Ethanol is "worse" for the environment and public health? I know it's worse for my boat's fuel system....:mad:

How is it worse for your boats fuel system? I know there are issues with fiberglass tanks, but averything else should be fine.

Reckless32 04-20-2007 09:36 AM

Hmmm, I wonder how they are getting around it, unless they were given more time to clean their tanks etc. to prep. Down here it was big news as all the facilities were *****in' about the expense of manadatory scrubbing out of tanks prior to the ethanol requirement May 1st, 2006 due to it's water intolerance etc.etc.

Still curious about this new report saying it might be even more toxic than it's predesessor?

Reckless32 04-20-2007 09:42 AM

The "primary" problem with boats is the tanks aren't emptied as frequently as automobiles hence the gas sits longer and phase separation sits in (meaning the Ethanol separates form the gas, and is also far less tolerant to moisture than the previous fuels). Plus in older pre-1993 or something like that, older boat's fuel lines and fiberglass tanks will essentially melt and leak unlike newer boat's improved fuel line materials. Throw in bad gas and you've got for instance boost pump failures (I had two last year), potential clogged fuel injectors form sludge if the boat sits for long periods with no preservative etc. etc.

Sydwayz 04-20-2007 09:53 AM

Old map:
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/rfg/whereyoulive.htm

Gizmo 04-22-2007 12:42 AM

The city of Petersburg is a no ethanol area. If anyone is concerned about getting ethanol free gas for the Jamin' on the James Poker Run.
The other issue with the ethanol additive, is it's ability to attract moisture. The moisture in an aluminum tank causes the aluminum to oxidate. The oxidation crystals clog the pick-up tube filter (sock), which in turn starves the engine/engines of gas.
I also read that the ethanol attacks the resins in the fiberglass tanks, causing it to break down and mix with the gas. It then solidifies again during combustion, leaving deposits on the pistons and the valve train. Not a good thing......

LostinBoston 04-22-2007 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 2101871)
The city of Petersburg is a no ethanol area. If anyone is concerned about getting ethanol free gas for the Jamin' on the James Poker Run.
The other issue with the ethanol additive, is it's ability to attract moisture. The moisture in an aluminum tank causes the aluminum to oxidate. The oxidation crystals clog the pick-up tube filter (sock), which in turn starves the engine/engines of gas.
I also read that the ethanol attacks the resins in the fiberglass tanks, causing it to break down and mix with the gas. It then solidifies again during combustion, leaving deposits on the pistons and the valve train. Not a good thing......

Both of which can be fixed though with new tanks. it is a PITA but sometimes you have to evolve with the times. The ethanol itself is not causing any damage to the engines.


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