Selling boats
 

I have my boat for sale for sometime now. I really can not believe it has not sold, especially with all that is done to it. A lot of tire kickers out there, but it seems like no real buyers are there.
Are you guys experiencing the same problem?

Which boat is it??

YES!!

if i only had the coin. yours is one of my all time favorites:cool:

Three words for you Steve..........LOW MONTHLY PAYMENTS!:drink:

mine is the 33 powerplay in the swapshop and it's priced real low!!

THAT-A- BOY - FRANKIE!!

well - decide to keep your boat and th phone rings off the hook!

That's what happend to me.

OK....I'm going to go against my better judgement and give my opinion. (and that's all it is.....my opinion) The boat is a cool boat with plenty of eye appeal but the last thing you want to do when selling a boat is post a picture of it 3 feet out of the water running wide open.(just my .02) The boat is worth as much if not more without a procharger system on it. I know...I know....it hauls azz and never has problems. That is not the majority of people's experience with any supercharged engine. Also there are several boats available in the same price range. i.e. $79900 or whatever. Lower your price from 70,450 to 69,900. Now an interested person thinks of it in the 60k range instead of the 70k range and I don't think $550 would be a deal breaker...would it? Maybe some of this ramble will help.

DISCLAIMER: This post in NO WAY was intended to flame, ridicule or pizz anybody off.(especially if your bigger than me!)

That pizzes me off:D :D - LOL just kiding. Actually I agree with the procharges and any blowers for that matter. I will not buy a boat with blowers or supercharges because of the added maintenance and shorter time to refresh and replace, ie added cost to play with. I will only look at a boat that has reliable stock horsepower and will do atleast 70mph or close to it. Yah the extra horsepower is the chit, but I'm not rich. I can barely afford to put gas in my boat, so the last thing I want to do is put my boat in the shop every 20-50 hours to have the engine worked on.

I have never had a boat with a procharger or blower, but I do have a stock 502 w 390hp and I never have any problems (nock on wood). The only maintenance I have to pay for is to winterize and oil change (yes I am lazy). It is for sale and I have gotten quite a few tire kickers, but traffic has picked up significantly lately. I've got a guy coming up to take a test drive and I will be really suprised if it doesn't sale by Memorial Day weekend.

Good luck to you.

I sold my boat last year and didnt have many calls for the first month or two. May was when all the calls started. During the first two months I also listed it for 109,000 knowing I would take less. Finally I listed it for the minimum I would take. Calls started comming in and it only scared a few people away that I wouldn't take less than listed. Also nothing turns away a buyer like a boat that is not clean. I showed it two times. First time the boat was fithly from not being touched all winter and buyer was not interested. Second the boat was waxed and cleaned inside and out. No need for a third and the boat sold. I also agree with taking the picture out that showes you running in rough water. I think still shots work the best. Don't worry too much yet. Calls will be coming this month.

Thanks guys for all your input. The price on this is 70,500.
I will remove the pic of the boat in the air.
Also do you think I should remove the prochargers?
The boat still will run in the high 70's without them:D

Agree 100% with the other posts. The number of people in the market for an 11 year old boat with supercharged engines is pretty small. Not a knock on the boat at all, it's bad azz. But you're just going to have to wait for the right buyer. Have you listed it in the classifieds, boat trader, etc? Doesn't seem like the swap shot gets that much traffic.

Four-buck marina gas isn't helping the boating market. The only place that isn't hurt is the high-end. If you drop a $mil on a boat, gas doesn't really affect you.

On the blowers- most guys want turn-key reliable. Actually, most guys want to be Don Aronow, they just don't want to go through the labor and expense. Most don't or can't do their own work and paying is expensive and in-season, you can be at the back of a long line while your season evaporates. Make your boat sound fun AND reliable and you'll get more action. A complete survey from a known HP guy and lots of documentation from reputable, known sources goes a long way too. I've bought my share of boats with "fresh power" only to find out later the true value of scrap steel.

Good luck.

Right now turn key reliability is IN...boosted motors are NOT.

Fuel is also an issue at both price and quality....lots of sub prime fuel being sold nationwide which is a nightmare for boosted motors....just our .02

Seems like people are shopping for straight up EFI power without any boost this past year.

My comments are from a buyers persepective, not a seller, as I wish to upgrade in the next year.

I would agree that the 'flying' picture would scare me off.

One question though, and let me put this as delicately as possible. If you remove the blower, wouldn't you have to tell the prespective buyer that it was previously blown? To me, to remove it and then to not tell the buyer would be dishonest. And I'm NOT saying you would do this!!!

But it seems that once it's blown, you kind-of have to stick with it as removing it won't accomplish anything because the motor has already been subjected to boost.

Blowers cool, but in my area they are unnessary. Personally, in my serach I will look for only normally aspirated motors.

point of reference... 99 topgun 500efi 95k...

think u might have to go 60-65k.... and it should move fast

EXACTLY what I was saying. Also, take the word Race out of the description. (trust me!);)

for that kind of money I'll keep it. Where can you buy a boat with fresh power and xr sportmasters and all the new parts put into this boat plus trailer for 70k! no where

Maybe it is a dose of reality that Americans have not faced lately?

Just looked at the ad....

Wow, that is a pretty amazing boat, though.

i know of a 98 36 apache for 75k right now

Dreamer you have been looking for a boat for a long time now why don't you bite on the apache?

And that's the reality of performance boating these days. Some of these boats have been dropped 50%- and that's from the fair market prices that they were selling for a couple years ago. Fuel prices, noise restrictions, outright closings of some waterways, insurance prices--- they've all put a big dent in this sport. Those left are the truly hardcore. Those buying are picking up what might be deals but prices may not get better.

There's alot of folks out there who are financed or home-equity-loaned to the gills and are now horribly upside down. many have no other option than to make a payment that hurts and insure a boat they can't afford to fuel up.

older and slower than what i have?

its a friends boat that he may put on the market in the next few weeks... hes not a boating degenerite like we are:evilb:

this post is a dose of reality.

i have to admit, i was "almost" in this position...looked at a top gun 5 years ago ,in the 160's. i would have put down 20% and carried a 20 year note , so , now it would have been 5 years gone by , 15 years left ,doesn't run cause i'm sure by now it would be broken... plus if it wasen't broken , i couldn't afford to fill it up...

on top of that it wouldn't be worth no where near what i would have paid for it and i'm sure oi would have dumped a $$$$$ through those first few years in upgrades...

sooo, i bought a 1972 28 cigarette for 14k -cash...

now , she just sits in the shop waitnig on me to find time to work her back to orginal beauty....

good luck to you , hope you find a buyer.....

baja27 - Your boat was on my short list when I bought my Powerplay. Boat looks absolutely perfect, but the main reason I did not buy it was the prochargers. For a boat with blowers I wanted to see that the whole motor had been built with an upgraded lower end. Not stock 502's with blowers (which is how it appeared to me, regardless of whether the lower end needed to be beefed up or not). Price (within reason), really didn't matter to me, if it was the boat I realy wanted with the options and in the shape I wanted. That being said, however, the market simply sucks right now also (as many have stated above between gas prices, insurance increases, etc.). I have dropped my pants on trying to sell my Checkmate, and honestly believe it is one of the best deals on the market (as far as Checkmates go), but it hasn't moved. My problem (I think) is that I don't have a stock Merc motor in it. I have a Flagship 500 which has consistantly run as reliably, or more reliably than the same Merc HP 500, but it is doesn't matter to the buyers, because they don't know Flagship. It seems to be the sad state of our sport right now, that there is just not the demand for these boats, so that even with what would normally be very enticing pricing on very clean boats, the offers to buy just aren't there.

Before the owner jumps on you he is not selling a Baja its a Power Play;)

Its all about the money. If its not selling the price is to
high. I sold my last boat on EBAY. Well actualy off of
Ebay.

I checked the add out its a sweet deal.
But if your going to say "I will keep it for that price"
this is what you will end up doing....Not selling.

Be patient and flexable.


RareBreed Your cat is awsome for a split second I
almost considered crossing the line.:drink:

Just my take!

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