21 Four Winns Liberator
 

Any oppionion on these boats?

I have a 24 footer and I love it. Big man wave killer. Nice and stable, but still able to throw it around if need be. What is the one like you are looking at?

There is a couple on www.powerboatlistings.com but Id like to find something older. Doesnt need a motor etc.

Seen a 26 footer on Cragislist yesterday. 13500 and it was really nice. Think it was in Jersey....search Liberator on Craigslist.

Just be prepared for high dollar hard to find parts if it has the OMC drives in it. There is NOTHING available for them anymore I swear.

what size are you looking for there is a 21' around the corner from me thats been sitting for a few years, paint looks new not sure of power or how the interior is but if you like ill give a knock on the door for ya.

The 21 is a great boat. Stay clear of the OMC though

I had a "201" Liberator. It was a great boat. I beat the piss out of it for 11 yrs. and never missed a beat! Handled some decent size water and always landed nose up!:D

Thanks for the info guys.

i have a 1990 221 lib put a new 300hp motor in it. the trick to the libs are to find one with the newer king cobra out drive they have a cone clutch instead of the dog clutch. you can tell by the ugly hump on top of the outdrive. this is the volvo design and it is bulit proof. the other cobra or king cobra is a finicky bastered with the shift cable if it gets out of adjustment (which seems frequently) it takes out the gear set

I had an 89 "201" also. Boat held up great.

Had an '88 211 from 93 till 2000. Was a 460 King Cobra. Built a 540 for it and it handled the power very well. Solid old school boat.

I think these boats have great classic lines. If you find a clean one I'd get it.

hey mopower

i had a 211 liberator, then a formula 272 liek you

I just bought a formula 336, but your 540 272 is prolly still faster

fast fun 2

the 211 lib was the biggest 21' boat I ever rode. even with little bennet tabs, I could put the bow down and plow through the lake michigan waves.
a little bow steer when burried into 4 footers , but the spray was fun

did 53mph with a 260hp merc and alpha with 21 pitch

my Red 211 is still in the area ( 2 additional owners later) with "Rambunctious" across the transom in 8" high letters :evilb:

Ramb

I had an '86 and loved it. Great handling boat- it could really carve well in the turns. Pretty solid with no rattles and a lot of teak. Mine had a 260 Merc in it too, and I could get about 52 out of her. Huge for a 21' boat. Stay away from the OMC versions-- you're not going to be able to maintain it anymore.

Holy Chit......you still out there Jafo?.......still got the formula with the hotted up sbc's?

I had a 540 in my Lib and two of them in my 272. Yes , a WHOLE lot faster:D

I have a 1988 201 Liberator. It has a built 383 with forged internals. I had it as fast as 68 mph - GPS with the Cobra drive. Upgrading to a Bravo currently. Having straight pipes installed to replace the fiberglass mufflers that were choking the engine.

i had a 1990 201. it was a great boat but i had a king cobra and it was the newer cone clutch version. the drive was still a pain in the a$$. ive heard when they are built right they are bullet proof but it is real hard to find someone to do it right. i do now of one for sale if you are interested. its a 1994 221 with a 460king cobra.boat is all white. if sure you can get a great deal on it.let me know if you want i can get you more info.

201 Liberator
 

Looking to get a 201, in New England area? Will travel for right boat. How bout the white one in New York?

Hay man , when and from who did you buy the 211 ? I traded my red and black 87 to Saber in about '93 or 94 .

the boat is at pennybridge marina in stony piont new york. tell them jersey sent you.

:D I got a 1990 221 for the right price. let me tell you they are bichin

hey rob what you looking to get out of yours?

My buddy had one and it was a great boat..... that was until we got t- boned by a 25ft Crownline at about 45mph. We jumped off just before impact. No one hurt.

white one in new york is still there if anyone is interested.

My Libby has been running great. Still tweaking it though. 68.7 mph on GPS with 1 person and 1/2 tank, but seems to have the power for much more. It was chine walking and thought it should have hit 70+. The boat with 23" Mirage Plus went 66.4 GPS with 6 adults and a full tank of fuel (human weight approx 1,000 - 1,050#). It also went 67.9 GPS with 3 people (550 - 560#) and 3/4 tank.

Here's one I found on eBay- might make someone a nice starter boat or a fun second.... This is the same year as the one I had (damn- two decades ago!). I love the classic old style offshore look of these boats, and they handle like a much larger boat- they can carve great turns!!! Also a very nice cabin for a 21'. This guy states 40mph- something's up with that because I had an identical package and it ran right at 50 (Laser SST pitched to 20" with cav holes plugged). They're a great candidate for a stroker SBC- I think they can handle more power no problem.
Jim
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Four-...QQcmdZViewItem

here's another one!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-...QQcmdZViewItem

My Liberator is now at 69.5 mph in flat water with a stock prop. With some chop and a labbed prop, it will be over 70.

The better of these two went for less than $5K- a pretty good buy for a very nice starter (and capable) boat!

I have a 1990 221 liberator for sale been on ebay can call me at 1(608)361-0454 first $9500.00 takes it

The 221 Liberator is one of the best hull designs ever. If you are trimmed properly she flies out of the hole. Just an all around great boat, especially if equipt w/ the 350CI OMC King Cobra V-8!

Had a 221 with a 454 drove it all over the Great Lakes, It did great in ruff water. Ran into John Winn One day He said he loved that boat and said it was one of they built. Mine Never broke. I have a 272 with a 500 merc, racing motor, runs fast but I brake it a lot LOL

"one of the best they built lol" Only wish it had bolsters, The bucket seats kicked your ass.

Bought a 1988 211 Liberator in 1988 for 20K. It was my first boat. I drove the prop off that thing and traded it in 1998 and got 16K on trade. Best boat I ever had with the OMC Engine and Drive package. In 10 years I NEVER changed the sea pump, had the drive serviced, changed spark plugs, etc. I changed the oil and the battery once, it started every time!!! GREAT BOAT!

Everyone's had a Liberator, they are great boats, as far as OMC I agree with the 90-up style, parts are impossible to get. The older ones are fairly available. I had an 87' with 350/ 260 alpha, would run about 52 and currently have a 221 with the new OMC, and the drive is impossible to get anything for. Good description is posted here. The 211 is a wave crusher for it's size, no doubt about it.

http://www.allamericandriveservice.com/OMCCobra.html

I have a few friends with 221s and they are all built like a tank. HUGE boats for a 22 footer and handle rough water pretty good. Not the fastest but very easy to drive. They all have cone clutch KCs an only one had drive issues and it was the cone clutch. We pulled it apart and flipped the clutch, then "lapped" them together. Knock on wood no issues since then.

There are plenty of them in great shape out there. People that own them seem to be very proud of them and keep them up well.

Agree, the only reason we sold the 211 for the 221, is the cuddy is actually laid out where it is usable. They are really almost the same size, the 221 is 8" longer centerline length and 4" wider, that's it...and it's heavier with the molded platform. I see about 66 in mine, but thats with a worked over 502 that would push a similarly sized "go fast" well into the seventies. But I can run a legitamate 2-3 foot chop 45+ no problem.

I also had the cone clutch go a few years back, but it's one of the few things you can still get for it (at least at the time, I think it was $400???)...other than that I have had zero issues with it in the 5 years I've owned it putting an estimated 500-525 horse through it.

did you ever find that liberator in New England you wanted??