Court Ruling Could Kill Boating???? What is this CRAP!!
 

http://www.boattest.com/nmma.aspx

What the heck is wrong with judges these days most of them are idiots


F-in California trying to set the rules for the country again

I remember it being a big issue with Int'l commercial vessels on the Great lakes about 10 yrs. ago.
They were worried about the infestation of Zebra Mussels.
I've been out of that area for 5-6 yrs. now, but it didn't seem to harm anything - maybe even helped the water.
The Zebra Mussels actually wound up cleaning up the water pretty well, and I don't think they have turned into any big harm since then.

Maybe some of the Erie guys can chime in on the current conditions up there.

The problem we have here, is everyone thinks they are put in a position to "create" laws.
NO, That's not what you were elected for.
You were elected to "uphold the law".

Every time you turn around, someone wants a new law...:rolleyes:

The Zebra Mussels caused all sorts of problems with water intakes. It cost millions to keep them clean. We need to kill this as soon as possible send in your letters

I worked 14 years for the Federal courts and probably met more than 100 federal judges and worked personally with 32 of them. They are idiots. Egotistical, self-centered idiots. Only one, Judge Ellison in the 10th District court in Tulsa was what I would call a sane and normal person. It's sad because these men and women are appointed for life.

I did send the e-mails to my senators and congresman. Hope this crappy law gets changed for the better.

September 2006 - and were just now hearing about this.....

I don't think they have the resources.

New laws in the country are a severe threat to our fundamental freedoms......... GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!!

I wasn't sure what all it affected, but I do know it seemed to clean the water up quite a bit.
Maybe the upgrades to the water intakes was necessary to keep up the quality of the water, in a round-about way.

We have been working this issue since August of 2006. This is not unlike many other laws /regulations written is US code. Typically the enforement will be left to the department to figure out. There are currently many U.S. Coast Guard laws which go un-enforeced because they are admittedly impracticle and un-enforceable.

exactly

In September, 2006, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down a 34-year-old exemption for recreational boats from an EPA regulation intended to stop ballast water discharge from ocean-going freighters and tankers in U.S. waters.

If a higher court or the U.S. Congress does not act, 18 million boats will be required to have special EPA permits that couls cost $800 or more.

the EPA must need more money to waste:rolleyes:

From what I read it seems the EPA is against this Bullshti

the zebra mussels definitly cleaned up a lt of the water born sediment, now (at least around here) giant lillypad lotus things are invading marinas and channels because more sunlite reaches the bottom, seagrasses are cropping up all over the bay for the same reasons (wrapping around props), the damn things grow in any crack, crevis transom housing they can find, the larvae gets sucked up into the outdrive and motors then grows and clogs stuff up... and those lilly oad things are some kind of protected plant species so you can get major fines for clearing them.

Ya the Zebra mussels cleaned the water somewhat but like said above now the plant life is makeing it almost impossible to use the rivers and you can't swim anymore whithout shoes on because the F'ing things will slice your feet up like razor blades. They suck.:mad:

Wow - didn't realize it was causing those kinds of problems up there.
Initially in the first 5 years, the water was looking alot better. Hell, it was like a big mud-puddle to play in the Maumee and out in the bay before the zebra-mussel thing. You had to go alot further out into the lake to find clear water.
Last time I was up there on the water was about a yr and a half ago with Glassdave. And the water looked great. Didn't realize about the other problems - and hadn't thought to ask.

The ninth circuit court is well known for making many stupid decisions. In fact, they are the court that has had more decisions overturned by the Supreme court then any other.
They are a bunch of liberal idiots.

We had a boat on Erie for many years. Zebra Mussels suck! Yes, we had bad water intake & over heating issues. The mechanics had a field day with us suckers! So did the Mussels!

I'll second that! The courts have far too long been one person legislative bodies.

Michael

This is a tough one. Which is worse Ninth Circut Court judges or Zebra Muscles.....In my opinion they both need to go. Zebra Muscles suck. BAD. They do clear the water because they eat sediment, algae, phytoplankton, etc. all things that cloud the waters. However as some of you have noted that only invites new problems. And just a note on how fast the can spread: One female can produce 40,000 eggs per breeding cycle and about 1 million eggs per year. The lavae, which can't be seen by the naked eye, can live outside the water for days. That is how these things spread from lake to lake to lake. . As for killing these things once they get into your lake.....Good Luck. I've heard about a power plant in Michigan that pulled it's water from a lake that was infested with Zebra Muscles. They were having problems with their intakes, they inspected them and counted about 700,000 muscles per square meter. no good.

Yeah, it is a toss up - both Liberals and Zebra Mussles SUCK!