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Is this For Real
I found this on another forum and just cannot believe this combo will do 100+ in 2-3 foot chop with 630hp and Alpha drive as the owner claims.
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i think it might do that with the new setup., I figured bullsh!t when first looking at it, thinking they were going to just do a bolt on of the 350, but christ they have over 12k easy in the new set up they put in it. So it isn't a low budget build..
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He seems determined, that's for sure. Stingrays are fast little boats. But he got one prior to ther ZP hull and that would have added a few ticks. No Stingray will go through real 2-3 foot chop though. 1' was enough to beat me senseless in mine. I suppose if he throws enough power at it, he could break 100, but if he starts claiming that, and it bugs anyone enough, call his number and call him out with a GPS. See how willing he is to go then.
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If the dyno numbers are real it should be damn fast. I don't see that alpha living for to long though. I think alpha's are stronger than what people give them credit for but that is a little over the top.
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I like the little Stingrays, BUT I'm not going 100+ in one. 65-70 is plenty
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My brother inlaw had a 222 Stingray and repowered it with a 502/415 mpi with upgraded exhaust and it ran close to 80.
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Interesting Speed Project
Is this your project by any chance? Welcome to the board & OSO, midnight express. You might want to fill out your profile.
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I am not running anywhere near New Hampshire with some 'tard running 600HP+ through an Alpha drive in a 19 year old 22 foot nearly flat bottom boat.
I don't even want to be around to pick up pieces. |
No it is not my project I have just been reading some of the other posts made by the project owner and some of the posts just did not seem honest. Trim tabs are band-aids for bad hull design's, The Alpha is alot faster than the Bravo, Four Blades are more efficent than three blades in all conditions, The boat has gone 102 with NOS etc. I believe the boat can run but 94 in 2-3 foot chop does not seem possible and I really do not know and was just curous.
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Seems he is real determined, read the thread on the stingrays owners site. But haven't seen any video or pics of a gps on the thread.........and sure wouldn't beleive 2-3 ft chop cause mine would beat the crap out of me @ 20-30 in true 2 ft chop, but mine has zp hull think the older ones had a little more v in it.
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I guess this is what makes it hard to believe this is a post he wrote tonight after someone disagreed with one of his solutions. I guess it would be different if anyone would have known of him.
This is real easy, its not opinion its fact with hard data to back it up. For the hundreth time, I do this for a living, Last year I tested over 100 props on different boats. Ive designed props for a few people. Did You or any of the others I doubt it. I tested 4 different drive sets up in the past year on different style boats. I teach people how to drive boats, they pay me to do that. I get paid to test stuff to failure and then ask me to make it better. Nothing self proclaim if you read enough check enough im in over 50 magazines and some industry mags. Been on tv I hold sevral world records when I raced my flat bottom boat. I also directly responisbly for other world records. Im not going into any more detail, I should not have to prove my self, I feel lowered my self enough to even mention any of that. I test this stuff day in day out I already know what prop does what and how it afects the ride, I already know how the trims tabs are going to efect the boat. So when I say somthing people dont want to hear what I have to say. Maybe I need to sugar coat my answer but facts are fact data is data. Then they make comments that they have no idea on what there talking about. Thers no axe to grind but I will speak up when people say crazy things and put useles and miss leading info in the forum. Its funny the people I helped in this forum love me and there is many, they know who they are. Its only the miss informed that cause me trouble in this forum. In stead of the few making comments ask me and say hey TD or Rich did you ever test this or what will happen if I run this prop on my deal. Dont you think thats the easer way |
Originally Posted by UNSANE
(Post 2138564)
He seems determined, that's for sure. Stingrays are fast little boats. But he got one prior to ther ZP hull and that would have added a few ticks. No Stingray will go through real 2-3 foot chop though. 1' was enough to beat me senseless in mine. I suppose if he throws enough power at it, he could break 100, but if he starts claiming that, and it bugs anyone enough, call his number and call him out with a GPS. See how willing he is to go then.
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the guy is 100% full of sh1t, he's been thrown off at least 3 boating boards already.... he has NEVER been able to back up one iota of his claims, anywhere, by anybody, at any time, for any reason, of anything. He's 100% pure BS.
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haa haah its not a 22p or 24p thats for sure a 24p to hit 90 or 100 would have to spin 7700 to 8500rpms I would think lmao art
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Help me out here........... this guy cut up an Alpha unit with a bandsaw, welded it back together and presto, he has a shortie unit????
I DON"T THINK SO. |
Fabricator - It has been done by many different people.
BRAVOS also. |
I had a citation 22 which was not that much different and it was fast as long as the water was glass. 2 - 3 man that would be a snot knocker
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I say we kill him.:angry-smiley-044:
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The chop job on the Alpha is one part that seemed entirely feasible to me. Any above average machinist worth his salt could mark that up, cut it, fixture it, and weld it or get it welded back right. Shortening the shaft could be done in a bridgeport mill with a minimum of fixturing and the right hob. There are a few claims that seem to be a stretch, but that's definitely not one of them. I know I could do it if I had the desire to, and I marked his site for reference just in case I ever decide I needed to do it.:eureka:
Remind me to never get on Mitch's bad side!!!:hitfan: |
Seems this guy has gone through an awfull lot of work making this site and cutting up alpha's and installing hyd steering etc etc if its bull.......or are you just saying his numbers are BS?
someone on here must know this guy....... |
Originally Posted by pullmytrigger
(Post 2232052)
Seems this guy has gone through an awfull lot of work making this site and cutting up alpha's and installing hyd steering etc etc if its bull.......or are you just saying his numbers are BS?
someone on here must know this guy....... I bet you're right...anybody wanna fess up??:food-smiley-007: |
Originally Posted by CCstinger260
(Post 2232041)
Remind me to never get on Mitch's bad side!!!:hitfan:
There's no way I'd want to go that fast in any Stingray, pre or post ZP hull. I've owned an older 19' Stingray as our ski-rec boat for years-it's a 1985 model pre-ZP and only has a 140 merc I/O 4 cylinder and it has been a great well-built boat. It runs low to mid 40's fully loaded, which is pretty good for that size and power. We use it at our property in Canada (North Channel of Lake Huron) and it rides pretty damn well. I've been told the older ones are much better at handling the waves than the newer ones. It's also incredibly good on fuel, especially when you're buying it by the liter! I had a discussion about these boats with Paul Kermis once (Simrek drive showers)- he knows quite a bit about them, especially at speed, and would probably know whether this is all BS or not. I DO like that small block engine however- looks like a runner. |
I give the guy the thumbs-up. It looks like some good old hot rodding to me. There are actually some guys over on hot boat that run some very stout small blocks with Alphas also. Ya never know, 22ft is not a lot of boat to push.
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Originally Posted by topher117
(Post 2231618)
what model and year was your stingray?
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I have been in a Sting Ray just like that same color even. The boat had a 350 mag with exhaust and msd and ran in the 60s and I was scared to death at that on flat water in bucket seats. I went with him one time on the ST.Lawarance and it was the usuall 2ft crap and I felt the floor flexing and watched the winshied shake back and forth with the deck moving in a different direction, this boat was only 2 yrs old and he had bought new. So there is no way it will run in the water he is talking about at the speeds he says without hurting someone or himself. I would just stay clear of it and way outa the way. I would say hes a couple fries short of a happy meal:
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I own a 87 Stingray Maxim 1 which is the 20 (19'3'') foot model, 383 Chevy nothing real fancy, Has the alpha nose cone addition. 68 on gps. I say its possible but HIGHLY dangerous. I know I wouldnt do it. But give the guy credit for doing it. Every jet ski guy on the lake wants to race every time i'm out. Its fun to fool around.
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Originally Posted by Tinkerer
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Fabricator - It has been done by many different people.
BRAVOS also. |
Hey, I got a Baja running 85 and Smitty got one running 95 so anything is possible. I do know one fact.... He's a crazy motherf*cker to go that fast in that boat in 2' chop!
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