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Old 01-10-2002, 10:17 PM
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mrpumpsHTM
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posted January 09, 2002 09:15 PM
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today at castaic lake steve from htm tested his new 30 footer with twin htm built little 565's, blown, 1.25 gears, xr drives, 32 pitch props, 7200 rpm, an awesome speed of 149.999 on gps yes easy 150 mph, and we ran out of props. we might do more testing later in the week not bad for a 30 foot boat.
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posted January 09, 2002 09:32 PM
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Damn, that's awesome!! Can I go for a ride??
What kind of pricing and speed is that 30 footer running with, let's say, twin 496 mag HO's??

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posted January 09, 2002 10:26 PM
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Wish we could have seen it run. hopefully he will bring it to havasu this spring or summer. I can't imagine what it must look like to see a 30' boat going 150 mph. what next?
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posted January 09, 2002 10:35 PM
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Well congradulations to steve and the rest of the HTM crew.
Mrpumps when are we going for a ride? Did you finish the new motor yet?

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posted January 10, 2002 11:15 AM
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This is a big feat in the high performance boating world today. 150 MPH in a 30 foot tunnel? Wow!How did this happen? The boat had twin 565's which are huge engines to start with. Put those engines in any 30 ft tunnel an you'll see similar numbers. But since HTM was the first tno do it, I give them the thumbs up!But come on now, doesn't anyone else think that similar power in a 30 ft. Eliminator will have the same results?????
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posted January 10, 2002 01:13 PM
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boatjob.. come on now it allways goes back to somebody else, what if ,if we,it can,they will,HAVE THEY ,damn dude give it a rest !!!!! THE FACT IS HTM DID IT ............ ON PUMP GAS ,5 PEOPLE IN THE BOAT ,565 , 8 LB BOOST,ONLY 950 HP EACH, THE BOAT WEIGHED IN WAY HEAVY,.,ITS NOT EXACTLY A WALK IN THE PARK. GIVE CREDIT WERE CREDIT IS DUE!!!!!!!(going for 160mph)
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posted January 10, 2002 01:17 PM
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Wasn't there a 36' Daytona with small blocks (quad rotor) that was pushing something like 147mph in hot boat a few months ago? I'll look for it when I get home.
HBjet

PS, I also need to mention, there were 3 small blocks and drives.

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posted January 10, 2002 02:25 PM
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I'm not doubting your speed reading on the HTM.
It would be nice to see it independently tested by a reputable source that could verify that speed. It would provide great visibility, exposure, and advertising to HTM...

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posted January 10, 2002 02:45 PM
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RIVERCRAZY..... ALL THAT IS COMING ,but for now it's still in R&D . believe me steve/HTM is so high profile it's hard to fabricate the truth (TOOOO MANY EYES)everybody wants a piece!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks b by now
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posted January 10, 2002 02:52 PM
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So in other words in not official or independantly verified....
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posted January 10, 2002 02:56 PM
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Can we see the calibration sheets on that GPS?
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posted January 10, 2002 03:15 PM
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OK i see were this is going boy's boy's, its only in R&D NOW .However people would argue the facts even if Hotboat/Family&performance boating Magazine tested it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! give it some time trust me you'll read about 150 155 160ishTHE FACT IS THAS TO DAMN FAST FOR ME
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posted January 10, 2002 03:20 PM
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Why is htm so concerned with speed? It seems that the only thing they care about is how fast they can go.
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posted January 10, 2002 03:22 PM
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I thought the 42 foot Outer Limit "ROCK IT" was fast at 147MPH
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posted January 10, 2002 03:26 PM
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Who was it that came in tooting their horn? Look at it this way, these speeds are very very high and out of the norm in anyone's definition. Its easy for some of us to be a "little" skeptical.
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posted January 10, 2002 03:34 PM
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mrpumpsHTM,
YOU ARE FULL OF ****!

YOU NEED TO PUMP THAT 30 FOOT HTM OUT OF YOUR LYING ASS.

THE HTM 30 FOOT COULD NOT HIT 150 MPH IF YOU BOLTED TWO 747 JET ENGINE'S TO THE TRANSOM.

I WENT TO THE IHBA DRAGS TO SEE THE BIG HTM'S RUN. ALL I WITNESSED WAS A BASS BOAT KICK YOUR ASS.

IF YOU GUYS ARE SO FAST GET YOUR ASS OUT TO THE OFFSHORE RACES WITH THE BIG BOYS.

AGAIN, QUIT BULL****TING EVERYBODY ABOUT YOUR ULGY ASS BOATS.

MONEY

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posted January 10, 2002 03:37 PM
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Ouch!!!!
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posted January 10, 2002 03:47 PM
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Money's brand new with one post. I wonder who it might be???? An actual first timer or some existing member logging in as a newby.
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posted January 10, 2002 04:06 PM
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rivercrazy.....you are right ,but i remember people at the drags said ya right low 10s/or better 9 seconds in the 1/4 mile it will never happen .im not hooting or howling but in only 660ft -1/8 mile we ran with I H B A calibrated lights 101mph and at the lights 1/4 mile 120ish mph ,i ran out of gear and prop HTM makes a fast ride . im totaly used to the sceptatism by now .i understand to a point but he ran 150mph thats all ,dont even want to discuss other manufactures at this time ,its the FIRST TIME AM HTM RAN 150MPH AND IT HAS MORE WE KNOW .HTM has not made 1000 S of boats (yet) so its exciting b by now
c u on the water
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posted January 10, 2002 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by MONEY:
mrpumpsHTM,
YOU ARE FULL OF ****!

YOU NEED TO PUMP THAT 30 FOOT HTM OUT OF YOUR LYING ASS.

THE HTM 30 FOOT COULD NOT HIT 150 MPH IF YOU BOLTED TWO 747 JET ENGINE'S TO THE TRANSOM.

I WENT TO THE IHBA DRAGS TO SEE THE BIG HTM'S RUN. ALL I WITNESSED WAS A BASS BOAT KICK YOUR ASS.

IF YOU GUYS ARE SO FAST GET YOUR ASS OUT TO THE OFFSHORE RACES WITH THE BIG BOYS.

AGAIN, QUIT BULL****TING EVERYBODY ABOUT YOUR ULGY ASS BOATS.

MONEY

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Money,
Thats some serious attitude you have going on. Whats the beef with HTM? Why the anger?The IHBA races/Bass boat good try.But seriously why so much hostility?

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posted January 10, 2002 04:53 PM
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Check out all the anti speed geeks, Instead of doubting this feat lets applaud and wonder with all the improvements that their doing with hull design that others can incorporate into their designs and all manufactures will benefit, cause somewhere somehow everyone has a little splash in them, Right HB Jet.
How long before you demand to see the plug and original design sketches....Hmmmmmm.


Dear Boatyob, do you really believe that if you put comparable HP into any same size tunnel you will get the same results? remember up too 100 mph is one thing and getting beyond is two different worlds and doing it safely is one of them...

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posted January 10, 2002 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by Chet 17:
Check out all the anti speed geeks, Instead of doubting this feat lets applaud and wonder with all the improvements that their doing with hull design that others can incorporate into their designs and all manufactures will benefit, cause somewhere somehow everyone has a little splash in them, Right HB Jet.
How long before you demand to see the plug and original design sketches....Hmmmmmm.


Dear Boatyob, do you really believe that if you put comparable HP into any same size tunnel you will get the same results? remember up too 100 mph is one thing and getting beyond is two different worlds and doing it safely is one of them...

Late Chet


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I don't need to see a wood plug of the 30'HTM, that is the weirdest looking boat I've ever seen, I swear nobody has made anything close to looking that strange for HTM to splash off of. Well, except HTM...

As you said getting beyond 100mph is another thing. Well, I highly doubt that just by changing the prop, a boat that ran 150 will reach 155-160mph. I'm sorry, I just don't buy it. If they do, then that is amazing. But another 5-10mph just from a prop change at those speeds, I just don't know...How much are props?

MRpumpsHTM, how much HP were you guys pushing? 1100, 1200, 1300? each? You gave us the CI, but not the HP, we need the HP

HBjet

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posted January 10, 2002 05:06 PM
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Hey, if they are getting 150mph I'll be the first to stand up and cheer for them.
Proof is usually different from claims being made on a message board....

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posted January 10, 2002 05:09 PM
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So where was the feat accomplished anyway. 150mph is some serious serious speed. I've been 135mph a few times in a car and almost soiled my shorts. 150mph on the water would feel so much faster (diaper appears to be manditory equipment).
Where? How long of a distance did it take to get up to that speed? Where were the cops?

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posted January 10, 2002 05:23 PM
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Do some people have a comprehension problem??? Or just too lazy to read???

It was at Castaic Lake(1st post) and the motors were at 950HP.(6th post)

Mrpumps, That's fuggin awesome and I wish I were there. It's only a 3 1/2 hour drive for me in the Cobra to Castaic.

Maybe if I bought the soda.......?????????


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posted January 10, 2002 05:28 PM
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HBjet.....a prop to you is am (IMPELLER)in your pump they make a big difference........
RIVERCRAZY.........castaic we kinda have an in....but you didnt get that from me

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posted January 10, 2002 05:29 PM
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Yo HB, yes a few prop changes and even some drive heights re-adjusted and walla your their, hell if you just tweak the height you can pick up 5 to 8 mph.
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posted January 10, 2002 05:54 PM
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I do believe that if you put that amount of horsepower into any 30' tunnel, it's going to haul ass. Take the Eliminator 30 foot daytona. It ran 105 mph with stock 496 power!Thats only what, 425 hp each? Or take the DCB Mach 34 which is a heavier, bigger hull. It ran 121 with twin teague NA 509s with 600 HP each.I'm not posting this to go "HTM bashing," but to merely prove my point. All we can do is wait and see the numbers of the HTM, along with the numbers of other boats alike
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posted January 10, 2002 05:54 PM
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I gotta jump in here.
Way to go HTM. I believe every bit of that 150MPH speed. I also believe that the boat can go 160 with the right props.

For those of you on these boards who don't know what running out of prop is, let me explain. This is when the motor RPM hits the rev limiter or if you don't have a rev limiter its when you need to get out of the throttle because if you spin any more RPM you motor will turn into boat anchor. It would be like putting your truck in 4 wheel drive LOW and floorin it down the freeway. Well guess what, your truck may only do 50 MPH and will be screaming like a rabid dog. This is the same thing that happens when you run out of prop.

The HTM motors were limited to 7200RPM because of the rev limiter. It did not run out of power, it ran out of prop. If the motor could pull 7200RPM with the throttle at 80% and just below the rev limiter and it ran 150MPH, it is easy to see that if you could give it 100% throttle that 160MPH is reasonable.

When you go get 160MPH you may want a bigger lake than Castaic...or pack a shoot like the drag boys.

Mrpumps, Steve and the rest of the HTM crew, a big High Five from SVO 540.


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posted January 10, 2002 05:55 PM
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Oh yeah and by the way MrpumpsHTM, what are u some kind of HTM praiser? Don't take everything to heart.
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posted January 10, 2002 06:06 PM
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Sorry about missing the HP in the posts. I know what a prop compared to a impeller is, but they are totally different, there is no pitch difference when you go from an A to a B, and then to a C on an impeller. The pitch is the same on all of those.
I understand I guess what you mean about running out of prop, but does that mean the wrong prop was used, since you pegged the motors at the rev limiter? With a prop change, would you go with a bigger pitch? What would that do to the low and mid areas in acceleration? Now drive height, do you mean trim it up? I would think they would have trimmed it up today. Or do you mean completely adjusting the drive height, like you can remove something that lifts the drive? I don't know....I'm trying to figure this out.

HBjet

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How fast is it with 500EFI's

That would indicate how it stacks up against the competition.

It's all relative. There are 18' boats that will do 200mph with a single engine.
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I sure would like to see it.
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HTM is doing a great marketing job, I keep seeing more and more of them at Havasu and local lakes in Arizona...

But honestly, even if it goes 150, they are still too ugly to tow around, let alone drive around in.

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They seem to be the modern day V-drive Flatbottom. I see them rigged with glass buckets and motor right there in the open ... no interior ... just plain old hull, seats, motor and drive. Kinda' cool if you're into it but .... been there - done that

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They need to make sure the GPS has the miles set on statue(sic) and not nauitical

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Can I post here ? Took me a minute to find the bottom of the page ! Are you saying they did this with 5 people on board ? Not so smart ! Probably no helmets ,no life jackets ,drink in hand ,and the stereo crankin' !
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sounds like a great ride. I do belive without all that weight more speed is possible. Now then, are you guys f***ing crazy? 150 with five people? Good men die on the race course with proper precaution at much slower speeds! Be carefull and use your heads and not your BALLS. Then you can still tell your kids about it. Good Luck

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Being a HTM owner they are fast but they are by no means a true cat. I wonder how true the 150 mark is. I expect that the 30ft is a stretched 24. If I was buying a 30ft cat HTM would not be the one for me on rough water. When power boat mag. ran my HTM in the 100mph shootout it didn't even have a kill switch.
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