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BY U BOY 07-31-2007 09:31 AM

Bbc Vs. Egg Beaters
 
Lets say you have 2 of the exact same hull 25' V. One with a 415hp 502 and the other with twin 200 OB.

What would be the pros and cons of each boat and which would you rather.

YES i would miss the BB rumble:D.

THE BULL 07-31-2007 09:48 AM

The outboard boat would be just a bit faster I think, less of a headache to work on individually but you would have no rumble. Twin Mercs at 6000-6500 sound awesome too. The I/O would give you a sunpad, the other would give you more drinking room. The OB can get into shallower water.

MOBILEMERCMAN 07-31-2007 09:56 AM

The outboard would fly straight. It would be more fun to run.
Jim

THE BULL 07-31-2007 09:58 AM

What 25' V hull is it......maybe we have some more info for you!

BY U BOY 07-31-2007 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by THE BULL (Post 2218122)
What 25' V hull is it......maybe we have some more info for you!

Active thunder

THE BULL 07-31-2007 10:04 AM

Hmmm, there is one for sale in the classifieds....he might know the differences....on that particular boat.

MitchStellin 07-31-2007 10:51 AM

I went to a 4 stroke EFI OB and I love it, it is so quiet you have to listen to the pisser to know it is running, it is a breeze to run, gets into 1ft of water and in the winter you treat the fuel and trim it down to drain it....all about 1 min of work. I say OBs, the fuel mileage will be worth the loss of noise. I loved the noise too, but I did get tired of it on the 45 min idle I had. For $2000 you can get silent choice to stop this but I still like the OB idea with todays fuel and maint costs.

Jigsaw89 07-31-2007 11:05 AM

I would take the outboard boat for all the reasons mentioned above.

AIR TIME 07-31-2007 11:19 AM

love my I /O 509 if they were eggbeaters they would have to be some 7200 rpm 2.5s or 300s those sound pretty good. art

tblrklakemo 07-31-2007 11:30 AM

If its not a CC or a cat, stick with the BBC. Something about the combo just doesnt seem natural.....IMO. Its your money. :signs069:

open87 07-31-2007 11:48 AM

i wish i had done a bracket and twin 250's on my cigarette..

it would have been finished a loooong time ago...and i would actually have a boat to USE right now....

live and learn ,but as another member on here told me on the phone ,there is no sweeter sound than a BB with dry pipes!!!!

it will be worth the time in the end..

TexomaPowerboater 07-31-2007 11:55 AM

I don't like how the outboards trailer. Does the transom have a limited life with all that weight hanging off? I would think it does, but I've never had one. I've seen transoms on a lot of bass boats have a limited life.

northernoffshore 07-31-2007 12:01 PM

that active thunder is a great boat originally built for Livorsi and it ran great with the o/b's .it's dash was in their catalog for years. Hey texoma here is my old vector/python w o/b's.

northernoffshore 07-31-2007 12:08 PM

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Here is a pic of it.

DonziChick 07-31-2007 12:27 PM

I haven't been thrilled with my outboard recently. I've had some fuel problems and now it won't go over an idle. Make sure that you either know outboards well or can find someone easily that can fix it. Personally, I would rather have an I/O.

I've been having problems finding people to work on it and actually fix it.

Thanks to Joe, I may have a running boat this weekend :D

BY U BOY 07-31-2007 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by DonziChick (Post 2218398)
I haven't been thrilled with my outboard recently. I've had some fuel problems and now it won't go over an idle. Make sure that you either know outboards well or can find someone easily that can fix it. Personally, I would rather have an I/O.

I've been having problems finding people to work on it and actually fix it.

Thanks to Joe, I may have a running boat this weekend :D

I have also had problems with my OB on my Proline because of the E10 fuel. After chasing the problem for a while we put two more filters on it and fun sea foam and no more problems.Knock on wood:D

BY U BOY 07-31-2007 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2218340)
I don't like how the outboards trailer. Does the transom have a limited life with all that weight hanging off? I would think it does, but I've never had one. I've seen transoms on a lot of bass boats have a limited life.

Transom saver is a must.

BY U BOY 07-31-2007 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by tblrklakemo (Post 2218296)
If its not a CC or a cat, stick with the BBC. Something about the combo just doesnt seem natural.....IMO. Its your money. :signs069:

I kind of feel the same way and would like the BBc but for some reason im liking the the twin beaters, Maybe its the fact that i would get more room and the peace of mind of 2 engines.

DonziChick 07-31-2007 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by BY U BOY (Post 2218439)
I have also had problems with my OB on my Proline because of the E10 fuel. After chasing the problem for a while we put two more filters on it and fun sea foam and no more problems.Knock on wood:D

Mine was dry rotted recirculation (??) lines in the outboard, a check valve and an old line from the tank to the outboard.

Clay Washington 07-31-2007 01:15 PM

I/O BBC in fresh water

O/B Eggbeaters in salt water

Just my two-cents... :cool:

Pantera24 07-31-2007 02:49 PM

I'm going the twin O/B route. I'll let you know how it goes in a few months.

Top Banana 07-31-2007 06:13 PM

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I have had both over the years and it seems to break down to.....the big bad wild sterndrives were fun, but getting them to run on a regular basis was always a pain.....I am talking about the real exotic stuff. ( I realize it is different today, but)

So the outboards were always there, ready to run and take you out for fun with your family and friends whenever you want.

The bling factor goes to the BB, but the dependable boating everytime you want it, goes to the outboards.

I heard that the new Evinrude E-Tec's are maintenance free for three years from date of purchase.....can't argue with that.

VEGAS36CAT 07-31-2007 06:25 PM

twin outboards--for all the reasons listed, plus the maneuverability of twins :D

Pantera24 07-31-2007 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 2218965)
I have had both over the years and it seems to break down to.....the big bad wild sterndrives were fun, but getting them to run on a regular basis was always a pain.....I am talking about the real exotic stuff. ( I realize it is different today, but)

So the outboards were always there, ready to run and take you out for fun with your family and friends whenever you want.

The bling factor goes to the BB, but the dependable boating everytime you want it, goes to the outboards.

I heard that the new Evinrude E-Tec's are maintenance free for three years from date of purchase.....can't argue with that.

Charlie I think you have said it best.
But I will say that when I see a twin closed deck it does give it a certain bling factor also. A nice set of twins on a 24 looks awesome in my opinion.

TexomaPowerboater 07-31-2007 07:15 PM

OK so reliablity goes to the OB

What about the driving characteristics of a twin OB vs single IO? What about the longevity?

Top Banana 07-31-2007 08:24 PM

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The outboards today are made with counter rotating lower units.

We raced them when both lower units turned the same way, and when you landed after a jump, the boat would try to torque steer over to one side....not fun for a few minutes.....torture for a few hours.

Guys like Richie Powers and Steve Sirois who raced in the Bahamas 500 mile race, can still remember the physical strength needed to drive an outboard race boat offshore.

The modern outboards are a million times better and so much more powerful. We will start seeing them show up on the closed deck sport boats just as they now are on the bigger center consoles. They are just too good to be left behind.

I fully intend to offer outboards on my banana boats when we re-open the company with the Ft Lauderdale boat show in October.

BY U BOY 07-31-2007 08:39 PM

so O/B are in the lead right now.

BY U BOY 07-31-2007 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by marylandmark (Post 2219146)
Steering is hard on OB IMHO. Maybe the Verado system solved that?

I/O- moving the drive
O/B- moving the whole ball of wax

I thought O/B rocked:boat: :evilb: :drink:

Aqua Banshee 07-31-2007 09:01 PM

I have a 24 Sonic with outboards. The bling goes to the I/o cause of the sound , Fun to drive = outboards. I run a 27 fountain with an hp 500 alot. Its a very nice boat, but just another I/o. I like to be different. I like driver boats also. The throttle response is so much better than a BB. If you want to putt than maybe a BB. My outboards do not like anything under 30 mph and get kinda loud at cruise cause the back seat is just inches away. I don't care I driving.

thunderusone 08-01-2007 12:23 AM

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Phuck a bunch of eggbeaters.......

Top Banana 08-01-2007 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderusone (Post 2219458)
Phuck a bunch of eggbeaters.......

Here's a bunch for you......

BY U BOY 08-01-2007 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by marylandmark (Post 2219554)
LOL- they do!!!

That is about the only negative thing I can think of about an outboard so figured I would post it to help his comparison.. :D

LOL I appreciate it. I just cant decide what i want to start preparing for. I really like my scarab with the BB but i also like the ease of my CC,just hook up and go. Also alot less to clean.

Dave M 08-01-2007 11:12 AM

24 Superboat.

(1) 300x
(2) 200's
(1) 496HO

These three setups run close to the same speed.

Reliability?? I have a 496HO, put gas in it, change the oil, no problems, no worries.

With some boats, OB vs. I/O will make a diff. With my example, i think it's a personal pref.

88Fount33 08-01-2007 11:13 AM

fuel economy
 
I would have to see the actual fuel economy comparison. If you set a 45 MPH cruise speed just exactly what economy would you see with each choice.

I do not automatically buy the fact that twin 200's will beat a BBC at a 45mph comparison.

cougarcat 08-01-2007 12:15 PM

Go with the wackers! All the above reasons plus the chances of them both breaking is remote. The single I/O breaks and you're in trouble. Then, if you have my luck you're 10 miles from nowhere with no cell service......

CC

thunderusone 08-01-2007 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 2219543)
Here's a bunch for you......

The boat and the operators look just alike! Thanks for sharing!


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