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Nice Pair 08-23-2007 11:30 AM

Big Horsepower/ Pump gas
 
Tim Grose is tuning the eagle to run pump gas @ 1400+ ponies to run in offshore boats. Looks good.
http://www.fastefi.net/media/truepower1.wmv

Strip Poker 388 08-23-2007 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Nice Pair (Post 2245325)
Tim Grose is tuning the eagle to run pump gas @ 1400+ ponies to run in offshore boats. Looks good.
http://www.fastefi.net/media/truepower1.wmv


Pump gas? 93 they dont say.I wonder if it would make that HP in a marine tune up? no innercooler also.

Nice Pair 08-23-2007 03:44 PM

Talked with Tim, he says 93 octane pump gas.

TSPM 08-23-2007 04:22 PM

WOW thats a whole lot of HP on just 93...I think the TEAGUE 900 EFI's are set to run on 89 for the CA crowd

VelocityMark 08-23-2007 04:38 PM

93 is starting to be harder and harder to find at poker runs and local marinas. but that is some awesome power.

mikes280 08-23-2007 05:40 PM

did Tim used to drag race

DMOORE 08-23-2007 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by VelocityMark (Post 2245736)
93 is starting to be harder and harder to find at poker runs and local marinas. but that is some awesome power.



Damn near impossible here on California.



Darrell.

VEGAS36CAT 08-23-2007 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by mikes280 (Post 2245796)
did Tim used to drag race

I had the same question...if so--messy one back in the early 80's

Nice Pair 08-23-2007 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by mikes280 (Post 2245796)
did Tim used to drag race

Thats the guy. messy?

VEGAS36CAT 08-24-2007 01:28 AM


Originally Posted by Nice Pair (Post 2245877)
Thats the guy. messy?

ugly wreck somewhere around 1982 I think it was columbus?
it was on the "and they walked away" tape I believe...
I just remember because I've always pulled for the under dogs :D

Strip Poker 388 08-24-2007 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Nice Pair (Post 2245685)
Talked with Tim, he says 93 octane pump gas.


Has he put one in a boat yet? Thats some strong #'s

LEOPAJM 08-24-2007 12:32 PM

Are the Teague 900's really runnin on 89 ?

Horsie Power 08-24-2007 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2245355)
Pump gas? 93 they dont say.I wonder if it would make that HP in a marine tune up? no innercooler also.

That version you saw was a marine combo. I was there and the video of the gauges was from the first pull. 4 pulls later they hit almost 1,500. I was in his van when they pumped the 15 gallons of 93 into fuel jugs at the Flying J truck stop. I'm wondering when they're gonna post the exact same motor (without valve timing/cam setting changes) boiling the water on the dyno with over 2,000+hp on alky?

Strip Poker 388 08-24-2007 04:43 PM

2 Attachment(s)
ck of the pick of it in the shop,looks like a indy,cosworth? motor in the back ground on a stand:D

Strip Poker 388 08-24-2007 04:52 PM

found this on youtube, Grose 575 CID blown DOHC Engine on the dyno

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9WTgrNCo-A[/YOUTUBE]

Dude! Sweet! 08-24-2007 05:02 PM

The big motor looks a little like a Cossie too. With the dual bet driven cams and all. Cousins?

As I look a bit more carefully at the motor in the back I can see Chevy on the valve cover. So I guess it could be an old Illmor Chev Indy motor (but I thought those were two valve motors for some reason) or maybe the Cosworth Chevy IRL motor?

mrhorsepower1 08-25-2007 09:33 AM

They have been working on that project for years.

Nice Pair 08-25-2007 10:33 AM

Tim Grose & Dave (F.A.S.T.) have told me that 89 oct. is no problem and they think the overhead valve motor will also turn some impressive #'s on E-85. Tim has these motors ready for production as we speak. There is talk that a pair is being installed in an Outter Limits. Keep your eyes open.

mikes280 08-25-2007 11:03 AM

some one should get Tim to jump on here and keep us informed sounds like a hell of a motor i am not sure about that high of rpm for marine use

Nice Pair 08-25-2007 11:18 AM

Somebody needs these
 
Tim Grose 269-561-6000 Valve srings = single bee-hive/ 140 lbs on the seat, timing 26°, boost 14 lbs ( if I remember) Let it spin.

Strip Poker 388 08-25-2007 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Nice Pair (Post 2247425)
Tim Grose 269-561-6000 Valve srings = single bee-hive/ 140 lbs on the seat, timing 26°, boost 14 lbs ( if I remember) Let it spin.


Thanks for some specks.I guess the effciency of the combustion chamber is the reason behind the timming being low.Just think what he could do with a motor for the Hot Rod Mag Pump Gas drags in Memphis Tn.Theres some pretty stout #'s there runing on socalled pump gas:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vp0h7eHzDE

Strip Poker 388 08-25-2007 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by mikes280 (Post 2247417)
some one should get Tim to jump on here and keep us informed sounds like a hell of a motor i am not sure about that high of rpm for marine use

Mike I wonder with the Fast could he get it to Idle very low? I would think at 7k + rpm it would considered to be a hot poker run motor or a race motor.

mrhorsepower1 08-25-2007 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Nice Pair (Post 2247425)
Tim Grose 269-561-6000 Valve srings = single bee-hive/ 140 lbs on the seat, timing 26°, boost 14 lbs ( if I remember) Let it spin.

That seat pressure is almost enough for a hyd. roller camshaft. NO where near enough for a mech. roller

Strip Poker 388 08-25-2007 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1 (Post 2247528)
That seat pressure is almost enough for a hyd. roller camshaft. NO where near enough for a mech. roller

Dean what if its because on a small or lite valve? since it has 2 each?

mrhorsepower1 08-25-2007 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2247655)
Dean what if its because on a small or lite valve? since it has 2 each?

possible

Strip Poker 388 08-25-2007 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1 (Post 2247680)
possible

What about the b hive spring being a progressive rate spring? I not real familiar them tough.But being at 15 psi?

Nice Pair 08-26-2007 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2247515)
Mike I wonder with the Fast could he get it to Idle very low? I would think at 7k + rpm it would considered to be a hot poker run motor or a race motor.

Tim is claiming 900 rpm idle with very little if any blower roll.

Nice Pair 08-26-2007 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2247655)
Dean what if its because on a small or lite valve? since it has 2 each?

Yes on the valve weights also no lifters or pushrods.

Nice Pair 08-27-2007 11:25 AM

Here's a link that works, Cool motor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwvSbQFA9U

Strip Poker 388 08-27-2007 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Nice Pair (Post 2249063)
Here's a link that works, Cool motor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwvSbQFA9U

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwvSbQFA9U[/YOUTUBE]

Nice Pair 08-27-2007 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2249079)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQwvSbQFA9U

"Showoff":D

Strip Poker 388 08-27-2007 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Nice Pair (Post 2249410)
"Showoff":D

I represent that remark:D :D

I am sure Tim has some more video of a lot higher HP on the dyno,get him to load it up on you tube:cool:

Nice Pair 08-27-2007 04:10 PM

Just talked w/ Tim, Yes, 2) 2000 hp ethanol mtrs. are going in a 50' Outerlimits as we speak. Tim has 1) pair & 1) single ready for delivery. These are possibly the last ones @ giveaway prices. Hurry an get yours.

Strip Poker 388 08-27-2007 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Nice Pair (Post 2249532)
Just talked w/ Tim, Yes, 2) 2000 hp ethanol mtrs. are going in a 50' Outerlimits as we speak. Tim has 1) pair & 1) single ready for delivery. These are possibly the last ones @ giveaway prices. Hurry an get yours.

We need a pick and a video of the dyno pull:D

wannabe 08-27-2007 04:39 PM

Did you guys notice the twin plugs?

Are those Heads by FAST or Eagle?

Wannabe

Strip Poker 388 08-27-2007 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by wannabe (Post 2249582)
Did you guys notice the twin plugs?

Are those Heads by FAST or Eagle?

Wannabe

dual over head cam,4 valve per cyl.I bet there as high as some 15 CFE's:eek: :eek: $$$$$$$$$

Nice Pair 09-11-2007 10:41 AM

Can you say "Outerlimits" Pics are dated, boat to hit water soon!

http://www.hotboat.com/image_center/data/500/OL3.jpg
[IMG]http://www.hotboat.com/image_center/data/500/OL1
http://www.hotboat.com/image_center/data/500/OL2.jpg.jpg[/IMG]

Fabrizio T. 09-09-2024 08:12 AM

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