Fuel delivery to your home??
 

I have read that some of you have fuel tanks at your house on the water that get filled by small tankers. What size tanks do you have? Is there a minumum amount that they will deliver? what is the minumum? Where did you find a source to bring fuel to your private residence? I am in michigan and may be intersted in this, if feasible.

A buddy has a 500 gallon tank beside his garage. He claims he only pays a few cents less than what he can buy it on the street for but the convienence is worth it.

Getting permitted for a residential underground would probably take an act of God. You'd have to be somewhere where an above-ground would be OK for your zoning. It would have to have secondary containment- the setup wouldn't be a cheap proposition.

I don't know on this but I would assume the fuel you'd be buying would be un-taxed. It would seem like there would be a substantial savings over station prices, let alone marina prices.

How about a long hose company? Used to be a guy in FL that would come to our dock and fill the boat "wellcraft portofino" up for us. Been a while since we had it.

I have three 500 gal. tanks on one property, but its outside the city limits in rural county and a farm. We leased two orchards inside the city limits that could not have tanks in the yard. Have not tried farm gas that is dyed so Cops can tell if its in the tank of reg road vehilce in a vehicle. Diesel did once in Excursion, did not run well on it at all.

Should have tried the boat, cut down all the tree's and let former orchard workers have the not needed anymore gas.

I use Quick Fuel in south west Florida and find it cheaper and convenient. Their head office is in Milwaukee so they may well be in MI as well. Maybe call their 800 number and ask on Monday. 800 522 6287
Bob

I have a 100 gal truck bed transfer tank that fits under a tool box, a 100 gal transfer tank on a dolly, and a fuel transfer pump I am looking to sell if you are interested.

Chris
419-450-0896

I don't think you can get an underground tank anymore. We have above ground tanks for both on road and offroad diesel and gas. In Indiana you have to have a retaining wall if you are over somany gallons. Our biggest tank is 1200 gal and we are under the limit

here in S FL they ave trucks that deliver to home docks but it depends on the city as to what is allowed. In my town you can get diesel delivered but not gasoline. Usually the price is a little better than the marina dock but there is a minimum of 200 gallons I think.

There are also Fed EPA rules as well as additional requirements for watershed areas. It can be tricky to make sure you are in compliance with everyone's jurisdiction.

Insurance is another big issue. Many standard homeowner's policies as well as commercial policies don't cover and sometimes specifically exempt any environmental issues.

Fed. EPA mandated some changes a few years ago that required all non-conforming fuel tanks to be removed and the site remediated if necessary. It was a very painful experience for the petroleum industry- that's why you see so many "former" gas stations. Buried tanks can be a nightmare. What petrochemical leaks out belongs to you until the end of time, even if you sell the property. Bankruptcy is the only escape. We've got customers that have spent millions on a couple of not-huge tanks that had been ignored for years. One had his building torn down- too much to dig out and still save the structure. Another, a hospital, had to buy a neighboring property and tear that business' building down to get at all of it. Then they had to construct a scrubber to pump ground water and carbon filter it. Many millions of dollars...

In La, almost any bulk carrier will set you up with a 500 gal tank. The pump works off of a truck or car battery 12v. The carrier I use has large steel rectangular tanks that the round fuel tank sits in. The rectangular tank acts as a retaining wall to catch any spills or leaks.

At my business, we have large diesel tanks on site, 5000 gal each. One for tax fuel, one for dyed non tax fuel for equipment. There is no difference in the quality of dyed diesel from non dyed diesel. The only difference is the dye. My heavy equipment runs the same on either. There are several farmers around here that use the dyed diesel in trucks without problems.

Personally, I don't think the 37 cents savings is worth the fine of getting caught

Depends on the state some have higher-sulfur diesel fuels for off-road use or might be opposite that dont burn as well when you put it in a reg. road vehicle like my Excursion 6.0. Some of WA stations still sell ultra-high sulfur diesel for off road use with the new ultra-low because of minor "problems" with out of state and older commercial trucks.

Few photos of the fuel transfer tanks and pump I have:

100 gal rectangle tank/dolly:

Nice set up RedDog. Towboat US needs a transfer settup like that. Better than this gravity arrangement of theirs ! LOL
Ran out of fuel 16 miles short running from Key West to Marco.:rolleyes:
Bob



Sorry about the poor picture quality but that was how my day was going !

Therein would lie the biggest obstacle if you're on the water. I live on the water here in Virginia and it takes an act of congress to just pour a driveway extension especially if your located within the 100' buffer zone to the water's edge. I have a ramp next to my house so I just trailer it to the nearby filler'up prior to the weekend and I'm fine.

Great idea. Good luck with it. Debrief us on the results should you actually try.

We purchased a 1000 gallon tank and mounted it on a Bobcat trailer with a battery 20 gallon per minute pump &50 foot of 1" hose ,We keep it inside the shop and pull it out when needed run out some hose and we're done .Our local fuel guy stops by and fills us up with 100 octane on his way to the airport , no sense paying road tax when filling up the boat with 300 or 600 gallons at a time
good luck:cool-smiley-027: