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wet_rat 09-22-2007 02:30 AM

454 mag same as 454 MPI????
 
I am looking at a '99 Velocity 320 with T-454 MPI. They are completely stock other then Stainless Marine exhaust upgrade. Are these the 454's with the forged crank and rods or is this cast junk? Are the MPI's best left as MPI's or would a carb upgrade be valuable?

TexomaPowerboater 09-22-2007 10:28 AM

Is there a 454mpi and a 7.4mpi that are two different beast. I know from what I've read here that the 7.4mpi is crap for upgrades and not much horsepower (310), but that it will also last twice as long before rebuild.

onesickpantera 09-22-2007 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by wet_rat (Post 2280651)
I am looking at a '99 Velocity 320 with T-454 MPI. They are completely stock other then Stainless Marine exhaust upgrade. Are these the 454's with the forged crank and rods or is this cast junk? Are the MPI's best left as MPI's or would a carb upgrade be valuable?

They have forged internals.

Griff 09-22-2007 01:22 PM

The engines will be labled as 454 Magnum MPI's or 7.4 MPI's. You need to find out which or find out which HP they are to determine the answer to your question.

wet_rat 09-22-2007 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 2280952)
The engines will be labled as 454 Magnum MPI's or 7.4 MPI's. You need to find out which or find out which HP they are to determine the answer to your question.

They are 454 MPI's.

Griff 09-22-2007 10:52 PM

I guessing you are talking about this boat.

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o17643-en.html

He can call them whatever he wants. If they are not a 454mag MPI's then they are the 7.4 mpi's. Post a pic. BTW if they are not mags, then the internals are cast.

Griff 09-22-2007 10:58 PM

Here's a list of merc sterndrive engines. Nothing is labeled as a 454MPI.
http://www.mercruiserparts.com/selec....asp?type_id=8

jayhawk261 09-23-2007 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 2281237)
I guessing you are talking about this boat.

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o17643-en.html

He can call them whatever he wants. If they are not a 454mag MPI's then they are the 7.4 mpi's. Post a pic. BTW if they are not mags, then the internals are cast.

I would go with what Griff Says. No matter what the engines do say on them, if they don't say "MAG" or "MAGNUM", then you can bet they won't have forged internals and aren't useful for doing bigger horsepower upgrades.

wet_rat 09-25-2007 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 2281237)
I guessing you are talking about this boat.

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o17643-en.html

That would be the boat. I will get some numbers off the motors and we'll know for sure.

Griff 09-25-2007 11:46 PM

Here's another example of somebody calling their engines 454 MPI's. Sure they are 454ci, but they are 7.4MPI's as shown in the pic. They have the weaker/cast internals and 310hp.
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o18159-en.html

These are true 454mag MPI's with forged internals and 385hp.
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o15828-en.html


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