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mjb 11-19-2007 01:20 PM

The Navy's new offshore BEAST!!!
 
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Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this monster cruising up the bay on it's way to the Naval Academy in Annapolis. She's 320 feet long and can reach almost 60 MPH.
That would be pretty bad to get spanked by a 320' boat!

Pete B 11-19-2007 02:32 PM

well a carrier' s speed is classified, but the need wind accross the deck for flight ops, and they are 1098 ft long.

NefariousOne 11-19-2007 03:06 PM

Not bad...but PeteB is right....carriers are one of the fastest ships the navy has...believe it or not...they move the f out!

freshwaterfiend 11-19-2007 03:08 PM

Carriers can hit 45+knots from what I've been able to glean.

good2go38 11-19-2007 07:34 PM

I would like to see the wave from a carrier at 45 knots

Sydwayz 11-19-2007 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by good2go38 (Post 2341659)
I would like to see the wave from a carrier at 45 knots

Not driving that Fountain you don't! :angry-smiley-038::evilb:

2112 11-20-2007 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by freshwaterfiend (Post 2341326)
Carriers can hit 45+knots from what I've been able to glean.

Buddy of mine from High school, who was stationed on a nuclear Carrier said it was actually in the mid to high 50s:eek:

PhantomChaos 11-20-2007 12:35 AM

I blew by one of those cats a few years ago.......kicked it's butt!!!! :D:D:D:grinser010:

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salesmanship 11-20-2007 08:45 AM

More info.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/navyw...hspeedship.htm

Vyper340 11-20-2007 09:01 AM

That has been down here in Va Beach for a while... Pretty cool.

dkwestern 11-20-2007 09:06 AM

Could drive right underneath it, when that thing is packin all that air!

knockld 11-20-2007 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by 2112 (Post 2341939)
Buddy of mine from High school, who was stationed on a nuclear Carrier said it was actually in the mid to high 50s:eek:


They are fast, not that fast, but fast. Subs are fast too, obviously classified as well. Best thing about them is Nuclear power will run all day and night at WOT for years, carriers are slowed down by their escorts and having to bring on jet fuel. Each Nimitz Classs carrier 2 BIG reactors, The USS Enterprise 8 smaller reactors, each sub 1 Pretty big reactor. Having been the Engineer on a LA Class sub the technology is really neat. Love power boats as well (no Baja bashing please) but the design and the safety of our Navy's Nuclear Propulsion plants is amazing.:D

Son of a Gun 11-20-2007 12:19 PM

I remember my uncle telling me a story from when he was in the Navy. There were 3 ships in their group; 1 carrier and 2 support ships (not sure of their class). He said if they all lined up and "pinned the throttles" at the same time, the carrier would just blow them away.

wantingmore 11-20-2007 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by good2go38 (Post 2341659)
I would like to see the wave from a carrier at 45 knots

Yea, then we could video us jumping the wake and everybody telling us how unsafe we are

PhantomChaos 11-20-2007 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by wantingmore (Post 2342502)
Yea, then we could video us jumping the wake and everybody telling us how unsafe we are


:D

Pete B 11-20-2007 02:04 PM

here is another stealth project: 50kts +

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...-4021H-068.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...-0000X-001.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m...-4021H-122.jpg

2112 11-20-2007 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by knockld (Post 2342324)
They are fast, not that fast, but fast. Subs are fast too, obviously classified as well. Best thing about them is Nuclear power will run all day and night at WOT for years, carriers are slowed down by their escorts and having to bring on jet fuel. Each Nimitz Classs carrier 2 BIG reactors, The USS Enterprise 8 smaller reactors, each sub 1 Pretty big reactor. Having been the Engineer on a LA Class sub the technology is really neat. Love power boats as well (no Baja bashing please) but the design and the safety of our Navy's Nuclear Propulsion plants is amazing.:D

Still, One of the things that makes me very proud to be an American.

CAP071 11-20-2007 07:16 PM

Does it have a Beak? :D

bojoe2 11-20-2007 07:27 PM

reggie will some how claim he built it :D

BigSilverCat 11-20-2007 09:47 PM

the day after 9-11 a friend of mine was on an aircraft carrier off the west coast and they unloaded all the aircraft and sent them across the us and the ship now empty had to sail all the way around the bottom of south america because it will not fit through the panama canal. he said the carrier went 68 most of the way. cannot remember if it was mph or knots. I will ask next time I talk to him.

Downtown42 11-22-2007 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2341789)
Not driving that Fountain you don't! :angry-smiley-038::evilb:

uhhh...I remember the MonGoose turning around and not running the first leg cause the water was a bit rough??

Or did you forget that part? :cool-smiley-011:

Just wondering why most Fountains ran and you turned around :evilb:

Donzi Corleone 11-22-2007 09:22 AM

Use must have good clearence to get that close for pictures these days. I got within 300 yards of a docked battleship here in Tpa and the wave off I got was "move away or else" I wasn't upset just cant blame them for being cautiuos and not wanting to be another Cole disaster.

freshwaterfiend 11-22-2007 12:40 PM

68 seems really high even for two big nuke reactors. The drag at that speed for that hull must be hurrendous.

Edward R. Cozzi 11-28-2007 09:53 AM

I don't know if this is true or not, but a guy from an aicraft carrier that was in port here told me that to slow-down and eventually stop a carrier that they put it in full throttle reverse from 5 miles out. Sounds good to me. Anybody know for sure?

glassdave 11-28-2007 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Bigyellowcat (Post 2343316)
the day after 9-11 a friend of mine was on an aircraft carrier off the west coast and they unloaded all the aircraft and sent them across the us and the ship now empty had to sail all the way around the bottom of south america because it will not fit through the panama canal. he said the carrier went 68 most of the way. cannot remember if it was mph or knots. I will ask next time I talk to him.

either way thats frik'n haul'in :eek:

DMOORE 11-28-2007 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by good2go38 (Post 2341659)
I would like to see the wave from a carrier at 45 knots

When I was in the TEAMS, we would do ops off the carriers all the time. Once out to sea, and they opened her up, the wake would be between 20 and 30ft high, and a hundred yards across. There's no jumping that baby.



Darrell.

Sydwayz 11-28-2007 12:36 PM

My Dad was on the FDR (diesel/steam carrier) from 1959-1962.

I just asked him a few questions.

Full speed fully loaded was 37 knots. (Would do so at full speed into the wind when launching aircraft.)
Wake was 100 yards wide, and 20-30 feet tall.
68mph for an unloaded nuclear carrier is definitely feasible per his thoughts, but all current data is classifed.

The full reverse at 5 miles out is accurate, if not further out.
The ship had a two mile turning radius for a 180* turn at speed.

Unusual FACT:
They were launching a small fighter of the time period, like an F-4 or something. The catapult malfunctioned, and the plane basically went off the front of the ship and under the hull. Folks inside the ship actually heard it scraping down the hull. The pilot was convinced he was going to die via the 4 screws as big as 3 story homes. The plane went out the back of the ship THROUGH the 4 screws untouched, and popped to the surface upright. He opened the canopy, and was plucked up by one of the two (always in flight when planes are airborne) rescue helicopters. He only got wet from the knees down. They dropped him on the deck of the ship, and he threw down his helmet and wings and called it quits. True story.

knockld 11-28-2007 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Edward R. Cozzi (Post 2351124)
I don't know if this is true or not, but a guy from an aicraft carrier that was in port here told me that to slow-down and eventually stop a carrier that they put it in full throttle reverse from 5 miles out. Sounds good to me. Anybody know for sure?

Nominal design of all Navy combat ships is to be able to stop in about three to four boat lengths. Remember for a carrier that is about a half a mile to 3/4 mile. The main propulsion turbines are steam that have both the ahead and astern stages on the same shaft. It takes a throttlemen (guy in the engineroom who controls steam to the propulsion turbines based on orders from the bridge) about 30-45 seconds to close the ahead throttles from top speed and open the astern throttles to maximum design steam flow. The amount of actual steam depends on many factors which don't really matter. A carrier traveling say 40 knots goes 4000 yards in 3 minutes or about a 1000 yards in 45 seconds. The screws actually slow and reverse pretty quickly. I have been in between the maine engines on a sub (around 65000 shaft hp) from max ahead to astern. The torque on the shaft is in the millions of foot pounds. Things shake and make noises like you can't believe. But still believe it or not they can all stop pretty fast for their size.

the1st41 03-11-2008 12:24 PM

Not only is that 68mph correct but I also read that the reactors onboard can maintain that speed 24hours a day for 10 years

BlackJack58 03-11-2008 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Donzi Corleone (Post 2344868)
Use must have good clearence to get that close for pictures these days. I got within 300 yards of a docked battleship here in Tpa and the wave off I got was "move away or else" I wasn't upset just cant blame them for being cautiuos and not wanting to be another Cole disaster.

Yeah, I would think that the only thing more exciting than getting passed by one of these monsters, or jumping its wake...would be to see the splash of a 5-inch shell off your port side, warning you to get the hell away... :eek:

"There's nothing more exhilarating than being shot at without result." - Winston Churchill

nocigarette 03-11-2008 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by mjb (Post 2341187)
Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this monster cruising up the bay on it's way to the Naval Academy in Annapolis. She's 320 feet long and can reach almost 60 MPH.
That would be pretty bad to get spanked by a 320' boat!

A good friend of mine shrink wrapped some parts of that boat before it was shipped here, he also made some canvas covers for the 50cal's on the stern....I have pics somewhere i will dig them up....

phragle 03-11-2008 05:19 PM

I think it was mentioned..subs are pretty quick, with a lot of prop tech to avoid cavitation.

Raylar 03-13-2008 10:15 AM

Go thru it not over it!
 
Wehad this ship here in San diego last year testing for a few months. Its actually on a lease/ trial to the Navy and was built in New Zealand by the company the pioneered what they call "Wave Piercing Technology". Its designed to run fast in big water where the front hulls actually pierce the waves rather than going up and over. I understand they are quite successful and that the Austrailian Navy has had some in use for a few years with great success. glad to see our US Navy catching up on technology.

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

boatman22 03-13-2008 05:13 PM

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How would you like to be on one during sea trials?

phragle 03-13-2008 05:42 PM

try angles and dangles on a sub, not only are you going left and right at speed, your also going up an down...


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