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BigSilverCat 11-25-2007 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2347370)
With many performance boaters and racers operating with huge, if not unlimited budgets and with the quality of engine builders the likes of Sterling, etc., that's not likely.

that furthers my example, they are giving the money to people that do not know what a turbo does.

you find someone to let us build them a set of turbo engines and we will give them more power then any marine engine builder offers, and give them a 200 hour warranty with it.

RICKY PEREZ 11-25-2007 04:49 PM

How About The Turbo Engines For Tommy At Chief. I Know There Running In A Apache Setup. Also Seen A 43 Nortech Cat With Them. Owner Says There Working Well

Chris Sunkin 11-25-2007 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Bigyellowcat (Post 2347424)
that furthers my example, they are giving the money to people that do not know what a turbo does.

you find someone to let us build them a set of turbo engines and we will give them more power then any marine engine builder offers, and give them a 200 hour warranty with it.

So what you're saying is that in spite of the millions of dollars and tens of thousands of engineering and development hours spent by Brunswick's Mercury HP division,mega-millionaire Tom Gentry, Gale Banks and not to mention the scores of others just since WW II, you know something they weren't able to recognize?

Turbocharging is what you might call a mature science. The ancillary pieces, from ceramics, to coatings to exotic materials and all the associated tweaks and techniques have been around for a LONG time.

bcschoe 11-25-2007 05:49 PM

Tommy Is On It!
 
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Originally Posted by RICKY PEREZ (Post 2347488)
How About The Turbo Engines For Tommy At Chief. I Know There Running In A Apache Setup. Also Seen A 43 Nortech Cat With Them. Owner Says There Working Well

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=chief+turbos


Another thread:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...t=chief+turbos

BigSilverCat 11-25-2007 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2347493)
So what you're saying is that in spite of the millions of dollars and tens of thousands of engineering and development hours spent by Brunswick's Mercury HP division,mega-millionaire Tom Gentry, Gale Banks and not to mention the scores of others just since WW II, you know something they weren't able to recognize?

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yeah that is pretty much what I'm saying.

I have ran my turbo engines for 5 years at 1800 hp and they have the same cranks, rods, pistons, valves, blocks, ect. times 2. that they were built with. only did normal maintenance oil changes and valve springs, lifters, gaskets ect.

just to give you an example, I build custom speakers, and speakers have been around for over a hundred years, and there are lots of companies like sony and jvc ect that have billions of dollars that cannot even come close to what I have done with speakers.


it is pretty easy to look at a banks kit or gentry kit and see what they did wrong. just because they had money does not mean they knew what they were doing.

We are willing to build them and stand behind them like I said.

BigSilverCat 11-25-2007 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2347493)
Turbocharging is what you might call a mature science. The ancillary pieces, from ceramics, to coatings to exotic materials and all the associated tweaks and techniques have been around for a LONG time.

we are not claiming to build a turbo at all, we just know how to apply a turbo to a marine environment at high hp correctly.

turbo2256b 11-25-2007 07:24 PM

Turbo's kick A$$.
Worked for Schwitzer for 10 some years in advance turbo design. Perty much fathered the first successful turbine end variable geometry turbo. Also designed the safest and most sofisticated stationary test and burst test equipment.

Griff 11-25-2007 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by DonziJapan (Post 2347544)
Fact a blower's boost is proportional to the input RPM. Now what your describing is an illusion. The blower doesn't achieve max boost at the lower RPM either the guage has topped out or there is a relief valve that has opened at a preset level of boost and is dumping the excess. In fact the blower is putting out more boost than your instruments are telling ya.:evilb:

FACT!!!!!!!!!!!You have to have a load on the engine to make any significant boost on a roots blower.

Rev a roots blower engine slowly up to 5000rpms in neutral and see how much boost you make. Very little, if any.

Now put it in gear and mash the throttle. You'll be very near max boost by 2000rpms and stay there all the way to max rpm.

KNOT-RIGHT 11-25-2007 08:01 PM

Turbos are superior to any other forced induction engine period.

Chris Sunkin 11-25-2007 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by Bigyellowcat (Post 2347593)
yeah that is pretty much what I'm saying.


it is pretty easy to look at a banks kit or gentry kit and see what they did wrong. just because they had money does not mean they knew what they were doing.

We are willing to build them and stand behind them like I said.

What is it that so many have missed in turbo application that you were able to discover & apply to your setups.


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