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thebigfella 12-01-2007 04:50 PM

Centert Console
 
CENTER CONSOLES: I would be interested in as much information anyone could give me, good or bad, about Concept or Glasstream. I have narrowed my choice down to a Glasstream 328SCX with Twin 300 Verado's or a Concept 32 or 36 with Twin 300 Verado's . Speeds, quality of construction, etc...

chuckbeecher 12-01-2007 07:07 PM

Can't go wrong with either one.
We had a 328 with 275 Verados and after putting stock Merc Rev 4 with 25 pitch we ran 72 mph and 4000 rpm was 47-49 mph with 8.5 to 10 gph per engine.
Glasstream is a self bailing hull which we prefered.
With identical power It will always be faster than a Concept due to the steps.
Probably faster than a 31 Reggie boat.
More and more Glasstreams popping up everywhere. Seeing quite a few new ones in the Bahamas(Abacos).
We loved ours and we speak from experience.
BIG BIG BANG for the buck!!

FeverMike 12-01-2007 07:59 PM

The problem here is if anyones says anything about a boat they did not like everyone jumps there chit and then the post gets either locked or poofed. True real information can not be given in an adult like conversation without an argument starting.

f311fr1 12-01-2007 09:08 PM

I like my Concept but it is a little one. 60 MPH with 225 Opti on a 23. That is all I can get out of her. Tried different props and I have a hyd jack plate for different heights. That is about as fast I want to go in it anyway. Cruise is nice about 3500 RPM. And my wife likes it better than the Black Thunder.

Johno 12-01-2007 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by FeverMike (Post 2355856)
The problem here is if anyones says anything about a boat they did not like everyone jumps there chit and then the post gets either locked or poofed. True real information can not be given in an adult like conversation without an argument starting.

X2
Ain't that the truth!

pro boat sales 12-02-2007 09:38 AM

Glasstream Vrs. Concept
 
Hi this is Bob from Professional Boat Sales we are both Concept and Glasstream dealers and I would be happy to answer any questions you may have, I also have in our warehouse a 2008 New 36 Concept with twin 300 Verados this boat is on our web site and can be seen at www.professionalboatsales.com under boat inventory
I will be in Florida this week so feel free to email me your phone number so that I amy call you at [email protected] our office phone number is 215-633-0775 we are the exclusive Concept dealer for NJ

thebigfella 12-02-2007 11:29 AM

Glasstream vs. Concept
 
Thanks for the responses. It is a touch decision. I have been trying to do my homework. I was leaning towards a glasstream, until I read on here some guys were having issues with the hull lamination and fiberglass issues. With a purchase of this size, I am trying to be as thorough as possible. Please, as much info as possible, pro's and con's would be appreciated.........very much.

Pwrbt33 12-02-2007 11:45 AM

Is there any reason you havent looked at others like Donzi or Fountain? or do you just like the looks of the 2 lines you are looking at?

Just curious.:D

FeverMike 12-02-2007 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by pro boat sales (Post 2356230)
Hi this is Bob from Professional Boat Sales we are both Concept and Glasstream dealers and I would be happy to answer any questions you may have, I also have in our warehouse a 2008 New 36 Concept with twin 300 Verados this boat is on our web site and can be seen at www.professionalboatsales.com under boat inventory
I will be in Florida this week so feel free to email me your phone number so that I amy call you at [email protected] our office phone number is 215-633-0775 we are the exclusive Concept dealer for NJ

Very nice looking 36 with 300' you have...very nice!

xconn92 12-02-2007 07:03 PM

No word from Mark???
 
How is it that Maryland Mark hasn't chimed in yet? Somebody better check on him...he could be under something heavy:D

Enforcer2 12-03-2007 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by xconn92 (Post 2356703)
How is it that Maryland Mark hasn't chimed in yet? Somebody better check on him...he could be under something heavy:D

I was thinkin exactly the same....MARK WHERE ARE YOU!!!???:readinghelp:

crb76 12-03-2007 09:10 AM

lamination process changed at glasstream in January 2005. No issue with anything after that. My 2006 was perfect in every way. The people that had issue also got a new boat vs a patch or quick fix.

hpoffshore 12-03-2007 10:55 AM

TBF,
What are the features/characteristics of your "short-list" boats that steered you towards them?
Hugh

thebigfella 12-03-2007 01:54 PM

glasstream vs. concept
 
Thanks Bro w/the info. I had my mind made up on a concept and someone mentioned a glasstream to me. It is a very difficult decision. i don't want to buy one, then second guess that i should of bought the other. And yes, I am 6'11".

Jassman 12-03-2007 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by marylandmark (Post 2357466)
Few random thoughts if I were comparing these boats:

LOA- Concept 326 is a 30' hull with a 2' bracket, Glasstream 328 is a 32 hull and Concept 36 is a 33' hull with a 3' bracket. Some like the molded in motor mount/bracket (all one unit, stronger, less vibration, etc) where others like the b-bracket (looks better IMHO w/paint, fuctional boarding area, better IMHO for fishing or peeing between motors, puts more room between rear seat and motors making for better passenger ride IMHO, etc)

Beam- Concept 326 and 36 have an 8' beam vs the GS 8'11". Wider beam is going to be a better ride and more stable in the water. Towing may be an issue- In MD the law is 8', most states max towing beam is 8'6". It is not a matter if your truck can tow it or not, it is a matter of if you get in an accident, even if not your fault, your insurance company will not cover it. I keep my boat on a lift but wanted a trailerable boat without any special signs, permits or fees. I am not sure what it would take to tow a 8'11" boat legally but some thing to think about.

Fuel- Concept (326/36) is 212/225 (326/36) vs GS 218.

Gunnel/freeboard- Concept (326/36) gunnel is 32/33 vs GS 31. I like a higher gunnels but 1' not huge. As long as the combing is above my knee it is ok for me. This also brings up freeboard (waterline to upper deck edge)- higher freeboard boat will grab more wind more and give you a dry ride, lower freeboard will give you a faster boat.

Weight- Concept (326/36) is 4400/5300 vs Glasstream 5300. All good weights for the LOA and beams.

Fit and finish- Concept does a very good job; have only been on one older Glasstream and every thing worked, just was not done as pretty as Concept- could be better these days so can't judge.

Concept life time hull warranty for original owner with a 10 year transferrable, GS is 10 years.

GS cabin seems more funcational than Concepts. You can get all kinds of ammenties in either, however looks like GS has more headroom and a better head.

GS stepped hull. I like conventional V's, however the steps will get you more speed with less power as well as need a bit more skill in driving. Stepped hulls are just as safe as conventional V's provided you know how to drive them- that is a whole 'nother can of worms all together...

Yes- there are about 2042 other things I have touched on yet but time for lunch and a mid-day nap so have to run...



Thank you for the review:D well done:drink:

crb76 12-03-2007 03:00 PM

My GS weighed 8100 lbs rigged! 5300lbs is dry with no motors and arch and stuff...The GS handles like a V. There are handling issues that are synonymous with stepped bottom boat.

Another reason I went with the GS over the Concept, like my Active Thunders, they are excelled rough water boats for whatever reason. You will never get wet and they land fairly soft for a CC. It has a lot to do with the bottom, length, and width from what I have been told.

Concept does have better bling factor. They are big on after market parts where Glasstream makes 90% of all hardware in house. They claim that this is the reason that they are more competitive in the market on prices . They also claim they have better control over warranty work, R&D, and quality versus assembling parts from other manufactures.

Who knows!

TSPM 12-03-2007 03:51 PM

CARRERA Sport Fish.........:drink:

FeverMike 12-03-2007 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by thebigfella (Post 2357515)
Thanks Bro w/the info. I had my mind made up on a concept and someone mentioned a glasstream to me. It is a very difficult decision. i don't want to buy one, then second guess that i should of bought the other. And yes, I am 6'11".

I am 6'5" and had issues with leg room and fitting behind the helm of my 36 Concept. I am sure Concept could fix this issue for you but something to be aware of...it's a tight fit also in the race style bolsters and my hips did not fit well. I did not try on the bolsters before I bought and that was a big mistake on my part and my dealer never thought to look into this either.

allstarmarine 12-04-2007 02:21 PM

Have you given any consideration to the 35' Latitude?

Latiude is a custom boat that your imagination is the only limitation. Options, colors, and power can all be tailored to your desires. The hull construction and gel coat are second to none. Orlando the owner of Latitude has built hulls for Apache and Midnight Express to name a few. Latitudes rigging is completed by the same riggers used by Midnight Express. Do not make a decision without checking out Latitude...

Below is the link to Latitude's Website.

http://www.latitudepowerboats.com

ALLSTAR Marine is the Exclusive Maryland Dealer for Latitude Powerboats and currently has a 35' SS Latitude in stock for immediate delivery and if this particular boat does not satisfy your craving please give us an opportunity to build a custom Latitude for you. Below is a link to our webiste which includes photos of the Latiude:

www.allstarmarineonline.com

FeverMike 12-04-2007 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by allstarmarine (Post 2358990)
Have you given any consideration to the 35' Latitude?

Latiude is a custom boat that your imagination is the only limitation. Options, colors, and power can all be tailored to your desires. The hull construction and gel coat are second to none. Orlando the owner of Latitude has built hulls for Apache and Midnight Express to name a few. Latitudes rigging is completed by the same riggers used by Midnight Express. Do not make a decision without checking out Latitude...

Below is the link to Latitude's Website.

http://www.latitudepowerboats.com

ALLSTAR Marine is the Exclusive Maryland Dealer for Latitude Powerboats and currently has a 35' SS Latitude in stock for immediate delivery and if this particular boat does not satisfy your craving please give us an opportunity to build a custom Latitude for you. Below is a link to our webiste which includes photos of the Latiude:

www.allstarmarineonline.com


Here on OSO is THE ONLY place I have ever heard of Latitude. What is going on with this boat? Nobody I know in the boat biz has heard of Latitude. Please educate us/me.

allstarmarine 12-05-2007 09:38 AM

ALLSTAR Marine has been Maryland's Exclusive Latitude Powerboat dealer since the Annapolis, Maryland powerboat show. The show was ALLSTAR's introduction to the Latitude line. The President and CEO, Carolina Hernandez and COO, Orlando Hernandez were both in attendance. Both of which were very knowledgeable regarding the boating industry from a manufacturing and marketing standpoint. ALLSTAR Marine was looking to expand our product line to accommodate the performance minded cliental. We have identified a large contingent of "Go Fast" boaters looking to step into a more practical and fuel efficient performance boat without sacrificing Style, Performance, and most of all Quality. After viewing the Latitude 35' Super Sport first hand ALLSTAR Marine determined that Latitude Powerboats has not only met but exceeded our expectations. Finally, Orlando offered to demonstrate the 35' SS for ALLSTAR following the show. Orlando had such confidence in the quality and construction of his product that he showed no hesitation in pushing his product to the limits. Without a doubt the demonstration sealed the deal.

In our opinion, not only is Latitudes product superior to their industry competition, Latitude Powerboats Management Team is focused, friendly, client oriented, and anxious to work with potential clients one on one to design and build them a custom made to order performance center console.

Latitude Powerboats may be a new boating line but they are far from new to the boating industry. Orlando Hernandez has been building boats for many big name companies such as Midnight Express for decades. Prior to the sale of Midnight Express a few years ago Orlando built all of the Midnights for former owner Tom Mason. Orlando and Tom Mason has been friends and business associates for a number of years. Orlando and Tom are once again associated through the production of the Latitude 35' Super Sport which was formerly known as the Powerplay Sport Fish which is being built with the same attention to detail and quality Orlando used in the production of the Midnights. All Latitude Powerboats are vacuum bagged producing a lighter stronger end product. The decks and hulls are mated together by fiberglassing them 360 degrees rather than bolting or riveting. Flawless rigging is performed by the same riggers formerly outfitting the Midnights. Orlando is dedicated to producing a safe quality performance boat. Latitude Powerboats currently offer 28' and 35' Super Sport and Offshore Sport Fish models with a 23' model soon to be released. The new Latitude 23 "Cabriolet," with an in-house design to accommodate the needs and requests of the multitude of followers the Latitude has inherited through the years, is more of a bay boat with offshore performance capability.

The Latitude 23 Cabriolet is on track to be unveiled at the Miami Boat Show in February and is expected to be available to the public beginning in April 2008. The newest boat will share some of the same innovative construction and performance characteristics as the Latitude 28 and 35 SS. Plug work on the 23's hull has been completed and the deck plug is currently under construction.

"The completion of this new model will position Latitude to attract entry-level buyers that eventually will grow in to the larger models that we currently build," stated Carolina Hernandez, President and CEO of Latitude Powerboats Inc.

While researching your next performance center console purchase I would strongly suggest including Latitude Powerboats in your list of candidates. Below is Latitude's web address and you can follow the companies growth through their investors/recent news link.

www.latitudepowerboats.com
Orlando or Carolina Hernandez
305-754-2233

www.allstarmarineonline.com
David Anderson or Fred Brady
410-574-8281

chuckbeecher 12-05-2007 01:31 PM

I've seen the Lattitudes at all the major So. Fla. boatshows for the past year.
I like 'em

FeverMike 12-05-2007 08:19 PM

allstarmarine, thanks for the info...that is a great start and the stuff boaters need to know.

so...you wanna take a Fountain 38TE triple 275 Verado's 130hrs in on trade?

allstarmarine 12-07-2007 11:29 AM

Mike, sorry for the delay in response. Give David Anderson a call at ALLSTAR on Monday. He is currently out of town and the marina is closed on Tuesday. Let him know that you are responding to conversations regarding the Latitude Powerboats with Fred Brady on the Offshore Only site. I will send him a e-mail notifying him that you will be calling. We would like to discuss possibilities of Trade, Sale, or Brokerage of your current boat and are excited to further discuss you interest in the Latitude Powerboat line. Thanks for your time and look forward to continuing this discussion.

northernoffshore 12-07-2007 11:42 AM

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powerplay 33' Quality boat. now the Latitude 35'.

allstarmarine 12-07-2007 12:28 PM

MARYLAND MARK, thank you for the promotion. Hope to cross paths with you in the future either on the water or at the Baltimore Boat Show.

pro boat sales 12-08-2007 02:54 PM

Concept vrs Glastream
 
Hi this is Bob from Professional Boat Sales I have not heard back from you in refrence to our 36' Concept that we have in stock please email me if interested
Best Regards
Bob

Nauti Kitty 12-09-2007 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by marylandmark (Post 2357466)
Few random thoughts if I were comparing these boats:

Beam- Concept 326 and 36 have an 8' beam vs the GS 8'11". Wider beam is going to be a better ride and more stable in the water.

.

Not sure I can agree with this. Some of the best riding boats in the world have 8' beams. No question a wider beam is better for fishing. IMHO NK

DENNYB 12-09-2007 06:51 PM

Nauti Kitty is right on

allstarmarine 12-10-2007 11:13 AM

FEVERMIKE, David is at the marina today. I spoke with him this morning regarding your interest in the Latitude Line. He is excited to discuss with you options of trading your 38' TE for a Latitude. Give him a call when you get a chance. Have a good day... Fred

Redskins! 01-04-2008 06:06 PM

Hey Mike,
I see you live in a Apollo Beach too, I was just wondering if you knew of anyone in the area that had a glasstream and what they thought of it?
Thanks,
Garry


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