JP's Point LOTO Questions?
 

Can anyone give me information on this property? Have you been? Fueled up? Food? Bar? Nightlife etc.?

Thank you

I boat at LOTO At least Two weekends a month during the summer and I had to look at a map to even see where it is at. So it obviously isn't on my radar. It appears to be at the 2 1/2 of the niangua right next to the bridge.

In that part of the lake you are competing with Bulldogs, fish Company, and Captain Rons on the restaurant/bar scene. For me I always gravitate towards someplace with quieter water so my boat isn't getting thrashed into the docks while I am eating or partying ( I would think that a wave break wouldn't be a bad idea).

We go up that direction quite a bit but the only time we go up the niangua is if we are going to HA HA TONKA state Park. The rest of the time we'll head up to big dicks if we are looking for a longer ride.

Hopefully someone else will have some first hand experience but I can say that I probably drove past it 12 times this year and didn't even notice it ( and I drive pretty slow 40-50 mph most of the time).


I persume it is on the market?

I've been boating on the Lake for a long time and had never heard of JP's Point...looked it up and now I know where it is, and have been by there but have never stopped. That;s probably a good thing if you're looking to buy and create a new identity. It has easy access by water and car so that's a positive; but as previously mentioned there is a lot of competition in that area; in addition to those mentioned there is also Captains Galley and Angels.

We stopped to eat there last summer and it was o.k. It looks a bit dated outside and in. Has a good size outdoor seating area overlooking the lake. It would probably need some big slips to draw more people.

I ate there once a couple of years ago. Complete dump and the food sucked. Haven't been back other than sitting out in front of it last July waiting for some other boats in my Ha Ha Tonka run party to fuel up there.

The new Identity would be key. The lake is very interesting in that If you are "the hot spot" you are busy as hell and if not you have virtually zero business. Shooters is prime example: Shooters used to be the "Hot Spot" and then it wasn't. I realize shooters became a bit of a dump and had crappy docks but they were still busy as hell and you could hardly walk around on a Saturday night. Once they got the new docks the place was dead and the younger sect started hitting Toad Cove on Saturday nights.

People at the lake gravitate to the "it spot" and that usually also correlates to a specific evening of the week for that spot.

My folks used to live down that arm. I stopped and ate there once, as mentioned above, it was not great! Docks are kind of in the rough stuff!

We are between their and Ha Ha Tonka, I have fueled there but never ate, I do know a few people who ate there this past summer and really liked it. I think they get most of their business from the house boats that are rented out right next to it.

Thank you all for the input. I agree that the image change is the only way to go. The property has alot to draw from, 2 dining rooms, 3 bars, fuel dock, large open lot up top to sell boats. I think it could be a great boaters destination if improved. Ijust wanted to hear what improvement you all would suggest. Thank you all again for your input!

I would certainly stop by and give it a shot. If i like it I would be back every weekend. I think a shore break would be key (I really like Backwaters, Frankie and Louies and Captn Rons because I can have a good time and not worry about my boat bouncing into the docks due to no wake action).

For example: If ozark BBQ had a shore break and better docks I would go there often. They have great food and view. We only go there if it is during the week because one cruiser goes by your boat is practically up on the dock.

The fact that most people aren't familiar with this place could really work to your advantage because they don't have any pre-concieved notions and their first experience could be a positve one.

Good Luck!

I think it has potential with some updating and most importantly, a breakwall for the docks.

Location is good also, its only 3 miles approx off the main channel so it would be a good stop on a poker run and also all the people who venture up to Ha Ha Tonka would could stop and try it out!

Ditto on Ozark BBQ, lots of boaters drive-by that place b/c of the rough water.

Is this place near the Hwy 5 Bridge, I seem to remember seeing this place on the way to the caves but can't remember for sure. If it is close to Hwy 5, you will draw not only boat but people from the west side of the lake. People like me that live on 6mm (west side) will take the drive to a good restraunt especially if its on the water. You have a good demographic to pull from if its done right.

Can't say I've ever heard of it, what MM is it close too? We're always looking for new places to try out...

I have been there multiple times and met the owners. I personally know two investers who have tried to purchase the property and thought it was a done deal until the male half of the owner began naking demands and wanting to raise the price. They also own a rest. in the South St. Louis county area.

As far as food it has a great repuitation for Sunday breakfast buffet. It is our well kept secret. The female owner is a very good pastry chef and they have all the tools but I think it is full of potential.

I know if you are truley interested in purchase the small resort next to it will sell also and that will give you the protection form the channel for parking. Other wise the first investment has to be wave breaks. Because parking is always a event during the day. For other examples that were mentioned Ozark Bar-B-Que, PAradise are perfect examples of nice places that need wave protection.

As far as potential the Condo market is just now taking off in this area. There are four 200 unti complex under const. now.

Send me a PM and I will give you more info on the little things that do not have a spot on the forum.

To help people remember the place.......It was the original location of "Captains Galley"

What is the name of the South St. Louis restaurant they own?

You can reach me at 928-846-1100 to fill in the blanks. the last name before JP's was the Wharf. Thank you all again for the input.

JP's Corner

I left you a message.

Went to a wedding there last year, nice location - lots of room. Main building seemed chopped up a bit. We had the dinner upstairs, dancing outside and customers were at the lower bar.