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LEOPAJM 12-10-2007 07:41 AM

That sucks but ummmmmmmmm ..... anyone got pics of her ?

rumpshaker 12-10-2007 09:59 AM

this is sean lollipops is just fine i still have my 40 skater and the poker run is still on thanks to bret and his team we will always be open

Cash Bar 12-10-2007 11:05 AM

Good to hear Sean. Look forward to seeing you soon.

vagrant 12-10-2007 11:08 AM

Hey Sean ,thats great news. Did you end up getting another
Skater? Hope to see you in Jacksonville.

David Ledford

bgchuby01 12-10-2007 11:19 AM

Sean just keep Brett on a short leash, He will eat your profits

dhlaw 12-10-2007 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by bgchuby01 (Post 2366149)
Sean just keep Brett on a short leash, He will eat your profits

They have turned a profit since I was retained!!

fantastixvoyage 12-10-2007 11:28 AM

Not to take anything away from the seriousness of the thread but I came down to Daytona for the weekend and Lollipops is still rockin' as usual!!! Nice to see Razzle's is updated as well.

Rumpshaker never knew you were Lollipop's Sean - I shoulda hit you up for the OSO hook-up! LOL :evilb:

bluellama 12-10-2007 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 2365425)
Mike,

I am not going to argue this with you as I can not stand in your shoes nor do I want to

But I am not uninformed on this subject

My wife is a nurse and i know what you are talking about


BoatMe, there is the fatal flaw in your arguement ....

You can't stand in Mike's SHOES.....

Unfounded lawsuits should be thrown out, looking to get compensated for a life altering act of negligence from another party is entirely different.

Here's a pretty simple test ( and Mike I hope you don't mind me using you as an example, but we all know your situation)

Ask Mike if he wishes the "accident" never happened?
Ask the driver the same question.
I'll bet you both answers are the same.
Now which one had the power to control the outcome originally?

Chris Sunkin 12-10-2007 12:08 PM

Arguing that monetary compensation for pain and suffering should be abolished is midlessly insensitive and downright moronic. The only conceivable cause for someone wanting another to not be compensated for damage done by another can only be some hyper-avarice run amok. Either that or having been on the receiving end of one of these judgments. A thousand years ago, it was an eye for an eye- literally. We've civilized since then but the concepts are still valid. What other way is there to compensate someone who's been harmed?

I'm not suggesting that juries don't make faulty awards- the woman and the hot coffee at McDonalds is one. Yet I find no similarity there. The other might be someone being awarded a hundred-million dollars for pain & suffering which is an example of justice gone wrong.

What we really need is professional jury panels. The only way you'll ever see a "jury of your peers" is if you're really bored at work or not bright enough to dodge it.

THEJOKER 12-10-2007 12:44 PM

I hope Mike posts pictures of before , during and after his accident. He didn't get rich after his accident but he deserved something to make his life easier after the terrible accident he was in. Those of you that have not gone through what he did have no idea.

boatme 12-10-2007 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by THEJOKER (Post 2366274)
I hope Mike posts pictures of before , during and after his accident. He didn't get rich after his accident but he deserved something to make his life easier after the terrible accident he was in. Those of you that have not gone through what he did have no idea.

no one is arguing Mike went through alot. Seeing pictures wont change my opinion
I drove wrecker back when i was young and I have seen plenty I dont want to see again. This does not change my opinion

but these days everytime something happens someone else wants to be paid for it

I had an accident when i was 18 I pulled out in front of someone (Couldnt see past a snow bank) It was my fault and we both got hurt

My Insurance paid for my stuff and the guy that I pulled out in front of had his insurance pay for his repairs and medical (No Fault State) I got a ticket from the police End of story

Today i would be sued till i bled my last penny

I didnt mean to hurt him (or myself for that matter)

certianly nothing like Mikes situation but you get my point

Where does it stop?

As most know we have been involved in a lawsuit over the death of two people at our poker run 2 years ago The family wants Many Many Many Millions of dollars from the driver and throttle man, as a result the driver and throttle man sued us for not keeping them from being sued


It never stops just keep looking for a lottery and guarantees

There are no guarantees in life
Jail is were people should go if they screw up

Insurance should be there to pay for the actual damage and rehab. Suing for a large sum of money demeans the point

Again this is just my opinion And i have no problem discussing this as long as it doesn't get nasty

Good points of view are always welcome and Mike has the best seat on the bench from where to speak. but I do not need to loose a leg to have the right to my opinion, nor to share it. Because i havent lost a limb or been disabled does not make me right or wrong

I wish the best for you Mike

bluellama 12-10-2007 01:50 PM

BoatMe, I think this is one of those internet board things that will take many posts to figure out what we could have figured out together between our first and second beer .... :D


Quote - I had an accident when i was 18 I pulled out in front of someone (Couldnt see past a snow bank) It was my fault and we both got hurt.
My Insurance paid for my stuff and the guy that I pulled out in front of had his insurance pay for his repairs and medical (No Fault State) I got a ticket from the police End of story end of Quote.

That's how it should be handled, but what happens if the person you hit didn't have enough insurance to cover his medical bills, he needs to sue to protect himself right, not set up his children's children for life, but take care of his day to day expenses...

boatme 12-10-2007 01:57 PM

[QUOTE=bluellama;2366360]BoatMe, I think this is one of those internet board things that will take many posts to figure out what we could have figured out together between our first and second beer .... :DQUOTE]

I am not a big drinker (I have one once in a while)

But i would rather have MILK LOL
Can you live with that ????? :D

THEJOKER 12-10-2007 01:59 PM

[QUOTE=boatme;2366370]

Originally Posted by bluellama (Post 2366360)
BoatMe, I think this is one of those internet board things that will take many posts to figure out what we could have figured out together between our first and second beer .... :DQUOTE]

I am not a big drinker (I have one once in a while)

But i would rather have MILK LOL
Can you live with that ????? :D


Which leg did you loose?

boatme 12-10-2007 02:02 PM

Because i have never been shot in the head does not mean i can not have a veiw point on how it would effect my life

as I said Mike has the best seat to speak from but he dosent have the only seat

bgchuby01 12-10-2007 02:06 PM

Brett I meant eating the dancers you homo

Playn 12-10-2007 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by dhlaw (Post 2365769)
Sorry for such a long delay... It has been a rough weekend. I still am in shock after the verdict. The facts were so far in our favor that it is inconceivable to have lost.

The deal is this:
The young girl was never a dancer at the club, her friend was. The driver had been in town for 2 days and even after the accident told the officer she was unemployed, which he wrote on the police report. Our witnesses testified that we searched employment records and not a trace of her.

More importantly is that the law required her to be intoxicated at the time of the accident. She was initially charged with leaving the scene and fleeing and elluding because the officer that caught her administered field sobriety test, twice. He testified that she DID NOT have any indications of impairment, not even a smell of liquor... NOTHING. The only testimony about intoxication was hers 5 years and 2 months after the accident for the first time. She had been to court and plead to the criminal charges and told the judge on the record "I was not drinking and alchohol was not involved". It wasnt until this past May that she changed her story after being offered to be dismissed from the suit. The day after her depo she was dropped. Bought testimony.

The jury absolutely ignored the jury instructions, ignored the facts and hammered the club, period. They even had the nerve to glare at us as they left the court room and walk over to the plaintiff and shake his hand congratulating him and saying good luck. It was like he just hit the lottery.

Things like this make you question the integrity of the process.

So she has commited perjury on top of causing the accident, but none of that matters because she doesn't have deep pockets.

She goes free by someone conveincing her to make up a story thereby creating the trail towards the money.

:mad::mad:

CigDaze 12-10-2007 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Playn (Post 2366389)
She goes free by someone conveincing her to make up a story thereby creating the trail towards the money.

:mad::mad:

And 12 idiots believed her. :mad:

That's the biggest flaw with our system today. Look around, I have a hard time pointing out many 'peers' amongst the general population.

open87 12-10-2007 02:54 PM

hopefully , the appeals process will do it's job!

bluellama 12-10-2007 02:56 PM

[QUOTE=boatme;2366370]

Originally Posted by bluellama (Post 2366360)
BoatMe, I think this is one of those internet board things that will take many posts to figure out what we could have figured out together between our first and second beer .... :DQUOTE]

I am not a big drinker (I have one once in a while)

But i would rather have MILK LOL
Can you live with that ????? :D

As long as it's 2%, none of that skim milk here...

RHC 12-10-2007 03:42 PM

Qoute Chris,,, or not bright enough to dodge it !!!!

there-in lies the problem ,,, I don't think we need professional jury's ,,, but we do need all people to do there duty !! Not give excuses and be to busy ,,,, Our system's are broken people ,, its time to get involved and fix them!!

RHC

Ms PatriYacht 12-11-2007 01:59 PM

What we really need is the judges and our court system to do their job before these bozo law suits even make it to trial. How the heck could someone be allowed to sue the bar when there was no DUI or evidence of her working there. It would be nice to have professional jurors but even better if we had judges with balls that could cut through the BS suits from the legit ones.

I was sued once on a BS charge and even the judge told the other party they had little likelihood of winning but she still allowed me to spend thousands fighting it, only to wind up with the same outcome. However I still have a firm belief that if you harmed through negligence you should be allowed. There are accidents that are true accidents but there are negligent ones as well, it would be nice if a judge could sort that out before allowing it to get in front of the jury.

RHC 12-11-2007 03:19 PM

yep ,, I agree Ian,,, the system is still broke ,,, there is no accountablity ,,, try to get some one in Gov to make a decision about anything ! won't happen ,, you will get referred to another dept .. who still does not know !!

RHC

Ms PatriYacht 12-12-2007 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by RHC (Post 2368000)
yep ,, I agree Ian,,!!
RHC

Hey that's MS PatriYacht to you:D

RHC 12-12-2007 09:56 AM

OOOOooppps ,,, sorry ,,, well my other choice was "KIRBY":D:drink:

Happy, happy to you and yours ,,,, Hope its good for all !!!

Roger and Stef

dhlaw 12-20-2007 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by fubard (Post 2378431)
:cool-smiley-027:everybody is an arm chair quarterback, but untill it happens to you. who is anybody to say what is right and wrong. he should get what he makes a year X 10 plus interest and mike dont let these people upset you if they where in your shoes they would be thinking differently themselfs. whish you the best of luck

Huh????

cuda 12-20-2007 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by dhlaw (Post 2378597)
Huh????

I was hoping you could decipher Brett. I figured it must have been in leagalese.:eek:

LostinBoston 12-20-2007 02:30 PM

I thought the consensus was that this guy was entitled to pain and suffereing, however the club should not have been laible, the girl that hit him should and she should be in jail.


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