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astorvistor 12-12-2007 01:16 PM

Someones been naughty in P1
 
I was hoping someone on 1 of the sites would ask the question and come up with the answer so i didnt need to ask myself because I've been monitoring for weeeeeks desperate to know..as to why Extremeboats.com in P1 Supersport (Shelton/Hunt) didn't get DQ'd for their 2nd Engine infringement which gave them 2x 1st places in Cowes. If the engines were rebuilt and sealed before Cowes and then ran in Belgium where afterwards there was mucho problems in the pits with Shelton and Hunt reluctantly having to send them to be Dyno'd immediately after the race, having them come in at a whopping 562hp each instead of 525hp. Wots going on? That's a lot of horses extra. Why did they keep their points for Cowes? And their place in the Championship? They only got the DQ in Belgium...but as they were sealed, why not cowes? The penalty for it was to add weight in the last race in Portugal, but just before the race they took the weight out so running fast and light. AGAIN! Why has there been no punishment? Especially after their engine infringement last year also in June 2006. Getting your hands caught in the cookie jar once is bad, but twice!! C'mon
What happened to Red Cards..it's not just a football thing. Surely winning after cheating doesn't quite feel so good, does it??? I don't know..but I'm bloody curious!:rolleyes: Bend it like Beckham!!!:(

Sean H 12-12-2007 01:18 PM

525's make about 560 HP.... no secret there.

Panther 12-12-2007 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Sean H (Post 2369309)
525's make about 560 HP.... no secret there.

Exactly...I was under the impression the 525 number came from the propshaft, not the crank.

Were they running the Mercury 525's in this boat?

OkieTunnel 12-12-2007 01:25 PM

Exactly why were they DQ'd. If these were Mercury 525's that HP certainly sounds ok. I have heard they often dyno in the 570s Maybe the DQ was for something else?

Sean H 12-12-2007 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2369317)
Exactly...I was under the impression the 525 number came from the propshaft, not the crank.

Were they running the Mercury 525's in this boat?

:drink:

OkieTunnel 12-12-2007 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by astorvistor (Post 2369306)
What happened to Red Cards..it's not just a football thing. Surely winning after cheating doesn't quite feel so good, does it??? I don't know..but I'm bloody curious!:rolleyes: Bend it like Beckham!!!:(

I always love the never posted before complainer/ bashers. Especially when they think soccer is football and use words like bloody.:D

getchasum111 12-12-2007 01:59 PM

you people are hard on the newbees....

Young Performance 12-12-2007 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by getchasum111 (Post 2369369)
you people are hard on the newbees....


Only when their first post is kicking someone in the ballbag.

bouyhunter 12-12-2007 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 2369390)
Only when their first post is kicking someone in the ballbag.

That's right, there is a minimum 100 post/6 mos. membership before ballbag soccer is approved.
This is of course waived if you happen to actually have a name from the historic years of Offshore Racing and have the knowledge and history.
I think it's in the bloody member rules somewhere:D

frogger1403 12-13-2007 06:23 AM

I wonder why they were still allowed to use:

Footthrottle
Canopy
Seat belts

Read the P1 rules and you will that this is not ok for SuperSport.

getchasum111 12-13-2007 10:03 AM

i agree.....

frogger1403 12-13-2007 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Sean H (Post 2369309)
525's make about 560 HP.... no secret there.

exactly, but then you should have the weight according to that HP.

1HP = 4,5kg that's the rule.

If everybody knows that a 525 makes 560HP so I can not calculate my weight on 525HP....

Heiko

CIG3 12-13-2007 12:22 PM

As I understand it the foot-throttle,Canopy, SeatBelt rules are for the 2008 season.

May be Sheltie will chime in on the whole story of the penalties. Everything else is here say until a ruling is made on there appeal of DQ.

Strip Poker 388 12-13-2007 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by frogger1403 (Post 2370143)
I wonder why they were still allowed to use:

Foot throttle
Canopy
Seat belts

Read the P1 rules and you will that this is not OK for Super Sport.

I would think a foot throttle would be a disadvantage?

Canopy might help in speed and or safety.

Seat belts prob because of canopy



I bet ya Fountain is getting the pick of the 525's that have the better #'s:D


But rules are rules:D

TeamTaboo 12-13-2007 05:08 PM

Strip the Fountain is not running Mercury motors.

GO4BROKE 12-13-2007 05:25 PM

Advertised HP ratings for all motors, marine and auto have a percentage +/- that is the allowable actual hp range. I think its like 10%. Which on a 525 is a big spread.

Strip Poker 388 12-13-2007 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by TeamTaboo (Post 2370929)
Strip the Fountain is not running Mercury motors.


I know,I was stating in general that with their clout that he probaly hand picks the 525efi's for the race boats here. I would :D

monstaaa 12-13-2007 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2370564)
I would think a foot throttle would be a disadvantage?

Canopy might help in speed and or safety.

Seat belts prob because of canopy



I bet ya Fountain is getting the pick of the 525's that have the better #'s:D


But rules are rules:D


actually there using illmor v-10's and surface drives.

but even if they weren't the result would be the same.

you must face it fountians are the mike tyson of vee hulls.

PERIOD.:evilb:

bouyhunter 12-13-2007 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by monstaaa (Post 2370971)
actually there using illmor v-10's and surface drives.

but even if they weren't the result would be the same.

you must face it fountians are the mike tyson of vee hulls.

PERIOD.:evilb:

Will they bite your "beak" off?:D

monstaaa 12-13-2007 06:18 PM

if you get enough money together i'll let you play with my beak.


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