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IDRPSTF 12-21-2007 10:04 PM

Powerboaters Paradise Bar???
 
A question to whom this will matter the most. If you had the opportunity to direct your ideas on “The Perfect Powerboaters Bar” on say….. Lake Of The Ozarks. What ideas would you throw in?
I will throw the obvious Hot Waitresses out in the open so that this does not become longer than the “Whats in a name thread”. Give me some ideas on what would bring you in? What would make you stay? And most important… What would make you feel like you took part in making the Perfect Bar?

As always… Thank you for the input

flat rate 12-21-2007 10:08 PM

Do the complete opposite of the new Horny Toad.

fountain4play 12-21-2007 10:52 PM

Always love the places with dock girls...lol...nice docks and no wakes or rollers to contend with..

good food and reasonably priced drinks...

Cash Bar 12-21-2007 11:08 PM

Good food? Does that exist at a WATERFRONT place at LOTO ??

Had great food, but it was NOT at any lakefront places.

HotSpare 12-22-2007 12:25 AM

Easy in and out, best service on the dock would be cool ...... Then remember, we're all over achievers, with big money and ego's to mach ........ well, I don't have the money part but, we break our ass for this stuff, and expect to be treated well ........... I've never found boating relaxing either .......... only the passengers seem relaxed, they don't care if your stuck on a sand bar or not, the party goes on ........... So ask for the captian (if any) in the party and do somethin for him/her ........... Whatever it is ...... That might take my mind off the stuff he/she just broke .......LOL....

HotSpare 12-22-2007 12:31 AM

Easy in and out, best service on the dock would be cool ...... Then remember, we're all over achievers, with big money and ego's to mach ........ well, I don't have the money part but, we break our ass for this stuff, and expect to be treated well ........... I've never found boating relaxing either .......... only the passengers seem relaxed, they don't care if your stuck on a sand bar or not, the party goes on ........... So ask for the captian (if any) in the party and do somethin for him/her ........... Whatever it is ...... That might take my mind off the stuff he/she just broke .......LOL....

Persu Cat Racing 12-22-2007 12:46 AM

Boobs, Bootie, Booz, Bar & Boats Call it 5 B's

marineclean 12-22-2007 02:10 AM

Nice dock with fuel bikini girls. Good food and a huge open deck with plenty of room and good music. We stayed outside at the Horny Toad cause inside was shoudler to shoulder with 20 girls and 200 guys. Not what I would call a good place to kick back and relax plus getting our drinks took forever. Food was good, but took forever and priced High.

Maybe it's just me, but we usually try to maintain a pretty good ratio. Let the boat dock people come on in from the water, but have a line for the off street folks. Run specials for women like free or dollar drinks and get them in the door first. The women tend to like a good 'club atmosphere' with dance music. This is just a suggestion from some of the 'lake' clubs we've been to this year.

We had a club fifteen years ago that would hold 450 max and we were packed with a line every weekend. The doormen could usually see the typical idiots in line and they would never make it through the door. It kept for a very enjoyable atmosphere with plenty of eye candy and never any scuffles.

Get a good DJ for the dance club and play mild tunes outside.

I would stay away from events like 'girls gone wild' or 'tropics' unless you want the well & dollar beer customers, depending on the location. I imagine you're not wanting the 21 yo that has twenty bucks to spend for the night.

I haven't had a chance to go there yet, but I would also touch base with racesdad (Mike@Peppers). They seem to have a good following with steady customers.

Location, Location, Location :ernaehrung004:

TSPM 12-22-2007 05:50 AM

Stripper Poles at every slip space :evilb:

39 Unlimited 12-22-2007 06:21 AM

93 octane for under a buck! Wouldn't care who pumped it.

1bagger 12-22-2007 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by Nordic Gary (Post 2380487)
93 octane for under a buck! Wouldn't care who pumped it.

Under a buck a litre and I'm happy . Built in fenders . Just pull up throw a line to a Bikini clad Dockhand and have an ice cold beer waiting . But having a Bikini fueling my boat that I would be willing to pay a premium for .
Paul

cosmic12 12-22-2007 07:03 AM

good solid docks with proper cribbing on the sides and solid properly spaced cleats to start. Then all the rest of the stuff like the 5 Bs:ernaehrung004:

Gunrunner72 12-22-2007 07:12 AM

Bikini clad fuel girls? Is that OSHA approved?:evilb:

320es 12-22-2007 07:23 AM

Why cover up the goods with bikini's. Topless fuel girls would pack em in.

Really, just good docks and fast service. I hate standing around for 20 minutes plus to get a beer.

baywatch 12-22-2007 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by fountain4play (Post 2380409)
Always love the places with dock girls...lol...nice docks and no wakes or rollers to contend with..

good food and reasonably priced drinks...

I agree 100% with the parking and calm water. There are places I won't go on a Saturday simply because I don't want my boat getting bounced into the dock.

Dock Girls are definately a plus, but Let me add that it is important that they have a clue what they are doing. If they don't have a clue they are more of a nuisance because I still have to give them a tip and they are ultimately in my way. I would much rather look at a dock girl but when it comes to skills the guys working the docks at Captain Rons, and Jolly Rogers are way better at whay they do than the cute females at other establishments. I won't mention where but one afternoon we stopped someplace and the girl tied us off (so I thought), had her tip, and was off to the next boat. Once I got out I realized that the bow line wasn't even tied off (just laying near the cleat) and the the stern line was so slack that my swim platform was actually touching the the dock.

For me it is important that there is something to keep my kid entertained. A Beach, a play area, an arcade, carp to feed etc. etc. It is a fact of life for me that we take our kid with us most weekends and I will ultimately go to establishments that he is having fun. If he isn't happy, mom and dad aren't happy!!

Lastly, I like to go places that I can view other boats parking and going by. So seating that has a view of the water is also key IMOA.

Good luck with the project.

fubard 12-22-2007 08:36 AM

Whatever happened to Millstone Lodge, I havent been to loto in aobut 8yrs (moved to florida) that use to be a great place, It was open but the docks sucked Is it still alive there???

omerta one 12-22-2007 08:45 AM

Nice docks (w/help) are a must...but I also think a really great steak and real seafood place would be nice instead of all the typical crap bar food.

terry summers 12-22-2007 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by fubard (Post 2380559)
Whatever happened to Millstone Lodge, I havent been to loto in aobut 8yrs (moved to florida) that use to be a great place, It was open but the docks sucked Is it still alive there???


Millstone Lodge is no more--a large condo project is being built on the property

TSPM 12-22-2007 08:55 AM

Whee and what is the name of the place the serves deep fried lobsters at LOTO?

PARADOX 12-22-2007 10:22 AM

I vote for "BOATERS ONLY"

fountain4play 12-22-2007 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Gunrunner72 (Post 2380513)
Bikini clad fuel girls? Is that OSHA approved?:evilb:

I think they are mandated by Law....:ernaehrung004:

IDRPSTF 12-23-2007 11:53 AM

Thank you all again. Now if you can give me an idea on menu? What will bring you back time and time again?
I am planning on large restaurant upstairs that can hold poker run crowds and a huge Sunday brunch. The downstairs club/bar will serve from 10:30 am to 7:00 pm before turning into a full club.
Outdoor drinks and dining with a HUGE patio that will have tables and lounge chairs to either sit and eat with the family or lay out and sunbathe with your wife or girlfriend while having your drinks served.
Dock condition has been on our minds from the moment we planned this. I have been selling highline boats for 9 ˝ years and know how much a scratch costs.

Would you rather see the bikini girls serving drinks outside, or trying to wrangle and fill your boat (Honest question)?

How about hours of operation?

Events?

Theme Nights?

This will all be pulled together in the next month and a half and you all for a Feb 15th opening. Location will be announced the 28th of this month.

Thank you again for the help!

hitman 12-23-2007 12:08 PM

NO BULL**** ATTITUDES SERVICE... Im tired of all the little **** attitudes at LOTO!

fountain4play 12-23-2007 12:18 PM

Keep the menu simple and to the point, good burgers and maybe steaks for the evening menu and nice salads.

Too many places get too creative in my view with their menu's and the consistency isn't there, one time it's great and the next time it's not.

My favorite places are the ones you know what you'll get everytime you order no matter how busy they are.

That and have open seating, especially for people arriving by boat...

Gunrunner72 12-23-2007 01:17 PM

Consistently good food is a must. A lot of people will try it once just because it's new and because of the atmosphere. If the food and service ain't worth a crap the first time, they won't be back. BE READY WHEN YOU OPEN--not 3 weeks after! It's hard to know what to expect, but you gotta be ready for an overwhelming amount of business upon opening.

Good Luck!! The world definitely needs more boater-friendly places to kick back, eat, and have a beer!

TEAMBAJA 12-23-2007 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 2380509)
good solid docks with proper cribbing on the sides and solid properly spaced cleats to start.

Properly spaced cleats definately! I hate having to get creative to tie a boat up! :ernaehrung004:

fountain4play 12-23-2007 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 2381478)
Properly spaced cleats definately! I hate having to get creative to tie a boat up! :ernaehrung004:

Yes that's huge, especially when backing in and not having any cleats spaced out to keep your drives safely from the back of the slip...nice docks are nothing if theres nothing to tie your boat up easily...

omerta one 12-23-2007 04:05 PM

IMHO most importantly the food should be fresh vs. the typical frozen crap. I agree with the simple menu approach.

1. A 1/2 pound open flame grilled burger.
2. A fresh chicken breast sammy.
3. A grilled grouper sammy.

Fresh, big, hand dipped, beer batter onion rings.

I still miss the old Big Easy pizza too.

And as I mentioned earlier...a real steak for dinner (12 oz KC strip would be nice) and a decent salad.

marineclean 12-23-2007 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by IDRPSTF (Post 2381373)
Thank you all again. Now if you can give me an idea on menu? What will bring you back time and time again?

Would you rather see the bikini girls serving drinks outside, or trying to wrangle and fill your boat (Honest question)?

How about hours of operation?

Events?

Theme Nights?

This will all be pulled together in the next month and a half and you all for a Feb 15th opening. Location will be announced the 28th of this month.

Thank you again for the help!

Just throwing ideas.

Name the food....Like the OSO Big Burger, The Cigarette Shrimp, The Leverage Po Boy :D and so on for the boater theme.

Intelligent Bikini girls for docking. Is that an oxy......? :D
I wouldn't have them serving in swimsuits. Might be nice, but would be some headaches.

Lunch on weekends during winter, everyday during summer. I would say midnight during the week and 3am weekends during the summer.

Events and Theme nights will depend on the area and who you want to attract.

IDRPSTF 12-23-2007 08:26 PM

Fountain onion rings????

baywatch 12-23-2007 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by IDRPSTF (Post 2381373)
Thank you all again. Now if you can give me an idea on menu? What will bring you back time and time again?
I am planning on large restaurant upstairs that can hold poker run crowds and a huge Sunday brunch. The downstairs club/bar will serve from 10:30 am to 7:00 pm before turning into a full club.
Outdoor drinks and dining with a HUGE patio that will have tables and lounge chairs to either sit and eat with the family or lay out and sunbathe with your wife or girlfriend while having your drinks served.
Dock condition has been on our minds from the moment we planned this. I have been selling highline boats for 9 ˝ years and know how much a scratch costs.

Would you rather see the bikini girls serving drinks outside, or trying to wrangle and fill your boat (Honest question)?

How about hours of operation?

Events?

Theme Nights?

This will all be pulled together in the next month and a half and you all for a Feb 15th opening. Location will be announced the 28th of this month.

Thank you again for the help!

I think we will be down for the weekend of the 15th. Something to look forward to.

marineclean 12-23-2007 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by IDRPSTF (Post 2381845)
Fountain onion rings????

:D
Fountain cheeese sticks
Hustler Hot Wings
Apache Club

flat rate 12-23-2007 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by TSPM (Post 2380575)
Whee and what is the name of the place the serves deep fried lobsters at LOTO?

The Blue Heron is known for that it is on HH not on the water

flat rate 12-23-2007 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 2381597)
IMHO most importantly the food should be fresh vs. the typical frozen crap. I agree with the simple menu approach.

1. A 1/2 pound open flame grilled burger.
2. A fresh chicken breast sammy.
3. A grilled grouper sammy.

Fresh, big, hand dipped, beer batter onion rings.

I still miss the old Big Easy pizza too.

And as I mentioned earlier...a real steak for dinner (12 oz KC strip would be nice) and a decent salad.

I agree the Big Easy was alot better than Bamboozed

flat rate 12-23-2007 09:18 PM

Where is this "new bar" going to located??????????????????????????????

baywatch 12-24-2007 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by flat rate (Post 2381925)
Where is this "new bar" going to located??????????????????????????????

I don't want to steal anyones thunder, but if you look back through previous posts you should be able to figure it out.

fountain4play 12-24-2007 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by IDRPSTF (Post 2381373)
Would you rather see the bikini girls serving drinks outside, or trying to wrangle and fill your boat (Honest question)?

Hmmm....BOTH (honest answer):cool-smiley-011:

Steve_H 12-24-2007 05:28 PM

grilled cajun spiced shrimp.
outdoor grill for burgers/hot dogs ect.
crab legs
big salad bar
self serve ice cream cones for the kids

a seperate beer bar away from the drink bar. waiting for an overworked bartender to get a drink drives me nuts.

a beach

SHADE is a must

a watermister to walk under would be nice

Mark 12-24-2007 06:53 PM

Topless Dock hands / servers.

Fuel at cost.

If you can do just these two - you can't lose!


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