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rchevelle71 12-22-2007 09:49 PM

How do I get a prop lock off iff I dont have the key??
 
I picked up my new(used) outboard today, and I went to take off the old prop, and install mine, but the damn thing has what looks like a wheel lock holding it on insead of the nut. I will call the shop that sold the motor to me on monday, but I dont think they will have it. Any Ideas???

Strip Poker 388 12-22-2007 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 2381112)
I picked up my new(used) outboard today, and I went to take off the old prop, and install mine, but the damn thing has what looks like a wheel lock holding it on instead of the nut. I will call the shop that sold the motor to me on Monday, but I don't think they will have it. Any Ideas???

Its not hard, I am having problems with the Mcguard locks/nuts loosing, If I don't keep an eye on it I would loose a prop.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ghlight=mcgard

Fountain38SC 12-23-2007 06:43 AM

die grinder took mine off. just cut the outer case and remove the nut.

THLWL 12-23-2007 08:51 AM

I've heard you can get them off by using 2 screw drivers and then a wrench or tool to turn the screw drivers. You insert the screw drivers down inside the lock. Then use the wrench / tool to turn the screw drivers to remove the lock. Good luck.

CMC 12-23-2007 09:35 AM

Go to sears and buy the sockets that are used for removing rounded off nuts. These sockets grab into the nut and then come off as normal. I used them to get the lug nuts off a corvette when the previous owner had no idea where the key was.

JimmyBaja 12-23-2007 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by CMC (Post 2381251)
Go to sears and buy the sockets that are used for removing rounded off nuts. These sockets grab into the nut and then come off as normal. I used them to get the lug nuts off a corvette when the previous owner had no idea where the key was.

Sears Bolt-Outs #52160

lowblue320 12-23-2007 02:01 PM

jam a smaller socket on it and then turn it.....

Cat & Mice 12-23-2007 03:45 PM

You can draw a picture of the pattern and fax it to Mcguard and they will sell you a new key. They only have about 4 or 5 keys.

Good luck!

MP

rchevelle71 12-23-2007 06:54 PM

well, it wasnt as easy as a wheel lock.

good product, took me about 3 hours, and 7 dremel cutting wheels to cut off the ring around it, then I could jam the socket on, and get it off, all without scratching the prop.

Anyone need a 17 mirage??

Strip Poker 388 12-23-2007 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 2381758)
well, it wasnt as easy as a wheel lock.

good product, took me about 3 hours, and 7 dremel cutting wheels to cut off the ring around it, then I could jam the socket on, and get it off, all without scratching the prop.

Anyone need a 17 mirage??

The way I did mine didnt take 30 min

rchevelle71 12-25-2007 12:29 AM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2381870)
The way I did mine didnt take 30 min

guess I am not as efficient as you, beer gets in the way:D

LubeJobs42 12-25-2007 07:40 AM

Park the boat in Miami for 20 minutes!

sy goldberg 12-25-2007 07:42 AM

Prop Locks
 
Park your boat on the street,and someone will do it for you.:D:D

Out There 12-25-2007 12:43 PM

I got some clay from an arts and craft store ( my wifes suggestion), made an impression, heated it to harden , and sent it to McGard. Worked perfectly.
Greg

hunster 12-25-2007 01:24 PM

sacrifice a socket and bang it on the lock.

Rik 12-25-2007 02:53 PM

This might sound to easy, but why not weld a nut to it and then use a normal wrench?

Strip Poker 388 12-26-2007 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rik (Post 2383247)
This might sound to easy, but why not weld a nut to it and then use a normal wrench?


The stainless collar will spin, The nut is brass, I would think the collar would have to be off to get to the nut to weld a nut on it. On mine once I got the collar off I tried channel locks but the nut was to tight. Once I got the collar off I cut grooves in the nut ,beat a socket on it ,it came right off then.Thats if its a Mcguard.My 2 cents:D

320es 12-26-2007 02:01 PM

I drove a couple of smal chisels in between the collar and the nut and used a pair of big channel locks. Took about 15 minutes.

fabricator 12-26-2007 02:15 PM

Judging by all the successful methods described here, I guess we can assume those prop locks are worthless, now can't we??? :D

BLee 12-26-2007 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 2382980)
Park the boat in Miami for 20 minutes!


Gino that's the funniest reply I think read this year, maybe longer! :D:D:D:D:D

KNOT-RIGHT 12-26-2007 03:17 PM

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The sixes are easier.

I cut the stainless ring off with a whizer.
Then I grabed the brass nut with a pipewrench.

Still waiting for Adrien at Teague to send me another.

There just a theft deterent.

rchevelle71 12-27-2007 07:54 PM

Thanks for all the replies guys, I got it off, just took a while, used the whizzer wheel method, just had to get really small ones for the dremel.

I Like Gino's reply, problem is...........................

They would have taken the whole motor!!!!

mikebrls 12-27-2007 09:48 PM

rick , are you going out this weekend ?
i will be out saturday and sunday going to camp out on boat over night .
call me .
mike

rchevelle71 12-27-2007 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 2385108)
rick , are you going out this weekend ?
i will be out saturday and sunday going to camp out on boat over night .
call me .
mike

Mike,

Just got back in town today, I'll let ya know more by tomorrow if its running.

rick

docmanrich37 12-28-2007 04:57 AM

Actually the easiest way is to take another mcgard socket that isn't the same n just hit it on the lock with the ribs in between the slots of yours till it makes it own grooves and put the rackhet on the socket and turn total time 5 minutes.Have done it atleast 5 times when prop lock sockets where missed placed.The lock is made of bronze so the material is soft and you end up making your own slots on the lock but you only get maybe 1-2 trys.Try it you will be amazed how easy the locks are to take off.The locks are worthless in my book.

Strip Poker 388 12-28-2007 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by docmanrich37 (Post 2385228)
Actually the easiest way is to take another mcgard socket that isn't the same n just hit it on the lock with the ribs in between the slots of yours till it makes it own grooves and put the rackhet on the socket and turn total time 5 minutes.Have done it atleast 5 times when prop lock sockets where missed placed.The lock is made of bronze so the material is soft and you end up making your own slots on the lock but you only get maybe 1-2 trys.Try it you will be amazed how easy the locks are to take off.The locks are worthless in my book.


Rich how hard do you have to hit it to make new teeth?I would figure that would be bad on the bearings?

docmanrich37 12-30-2007 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388 (Post 2385635)
Rich how hard do you have to hit it to make new teeth?I would figure that would be bad on the bearings?

I hit it a few times easy until it made the grooves but not like hittin a nail into wood.the nut is soft so it doesnt take much.If u have any old locks try it and you will see how easy they are to steal i mean get off.lol


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