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FormulaFan 04-01-2008 06:59 PM

Weterbeke in 38 Scarab
 
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Just for the record I had a Westerbeke installed in my 38 Scarab (I have since sold it). It had the factory a/c and the Westerbeke worked great, even at 80 mph!

Also, I do know of a Baja in Texas that has the Honda in the engine compartment for 2 years with no issues.

Good luck, and be careful.....

DirtyMoney 04-01-2008 07:33 PM

What size westerbeke is that?

FormulaFan 04-01-2008 07:38 PM

It's a 3kw gas. I had it powder coated Mercury Blue.

Michael Garibay 04-01-2008 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by FormulaFan (Post 2509238)
Just for the record I had a Westerbeke installed in my 38 Scarab (I have since sold it). It had the factory a/c and the Westerbeke worked great, even at 80 mph!

Also, I do know of a Baja in Texas that has the Honda in the engine compartment for 2 years with no issues.

Good luck, and be careful.....

Now that is an option I could consider. What year 38' did you have?any more pics? What do those gens run? Installed?thanks. Mike

FormulaFan 04-02-2008 07:12 AM

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Mike, The Scarab was a 2003 Model. The Westerbeke was around $3500.
The Labor was around $7000. It was not an easy installation. They notched the center stringer out (about 5"), then re-enforced the stringer along each side. Then they made a flat platform for the gen. They routed the exhaust out the side (the large outlet on the side in picture). They installed dual water intakes (this is like the new Formulas use). One intake is below the water line and one above. This allows the use of the gen sitting still, or running full throttle. I also had them install a shore power/gen switch in the cabin, as well as 2 co2 detectors. The gen will easily run the a/c and battery charger with no strain at all. The installation was done during the winter so the shop took there time doing it. Like I said it was a lot of work, but the end result was worth it. I used it 1 summer with the gen and had it running most of the time. The fuel intake was hooked in to the main fuel tank and didn't notice much fuel consumption. Of course running 575's with blowers burned so much fuel the gen didn't make a difference. I don't have any more gen pics, but here are a couple of the boat. I went to a cruiser and I really am starting to miss the Scarab, especially with Poker Run season starting. I hope I have answered your questions.

Clay Washington 04-02-2008 08:17 AM

Hey Mike. It looks like you went to alot of trouble to do this project. Several people have voiced their concern about running an "outside only" generator in a "gas fumes" environment. You have to know this is a dangerous thing. It can work well dozens of time, but fail just once and disaster. :(

I have a Cig Bullet with built-in shore power. I have though about installing A/C and running it via the shore power network. To run the A/C away from shore, I would strap a Honda 2000 to the swim platform and connect it to the shore power outlet.

If your Scarab has built-in shore power, I think your could easily implement my idea and be much safer.

Just my two-cents... :cool:

Michael Garibay 04-02-2008 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by FormulaFan (Post 2509837)
Mike, The Scarab was a 2003 Model. The Westerbeke was around $3500.
The Labor was around $7000. It was not an easy installation. They notched the center stringer out (about 5"), then re-enforced the stringer along each side. Then they made a flat platform for the gen. They routed the exhaust out the side (the large outlet on the side in picture). They installed dual water intakes (this is like the new Formulas use). One intake is below the water line and one above. This allows the use of the gen sitting still, or running full throttle. I also had them install a shore power/gen switch in the cabin, as well as 2 co2 detectors. The gen will easily run the a/c and battery charger with no strain at all. The installation was done during the winter so the shop took there time doing it. Like I said it was a lot of work, but the end result was worth it. I used it 1 summer with the gen and had it running most of the time. The fuel intake was hooked in to the main fuel tank and didn't notice much fuel consumption. Of course running 575's with blowers burned so much fuel the gen didn't make a difference. I don't have any more gen pics, but here are a couple of the boat. I went to a cruiser and I really am starting to miss the Scarab, especially with Poker Run season starting. I hope I have answered your questions.

That was a great deal on the gen. I priced online and it shows $5300 just for the gen. 7k for the install,wow, that must have been a lot of labor. It sounds like it just by your description. Well ,seeing that my boat is one of a kind, it is probably worth the investment. Probably next year though. I've had it for a year and not taken it out once yet. And the baby is getting induced tommorow. Sooooooo it looks like maybe may will be the first time out.Thanks Mike

88Fount33 04-02-2008 12:39 PM

hijack.....
does anyone make CG certified Braded SS fuel line with an fittings?

Edward R. Cozzi 04-02-2008 12:58 PM

I have surveyed a few boats with that 3.0KW Westerbeke genset and she's a real beauty. $7,000 to install it seems very expensive. Just my $0.02.

good2go38 04-02-2008 04:07 PM

Anchoring
 
I have used my Honda 2000 a couple of times on the swim platform. One time I was anchored front and back to stay close to shore and the wind changed. The CO detectors went nuts when the wind started blowing from the stern. Remember the wind is a factor when anchoring.


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