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Swamplizard 04-13-2008 11:38 AM

Can anyone in the business help a borther out?
 
Guys - I know I am not the typical OSO guy - I dont have a 100 mph boat and I don't race...but like all of you I am a DIY guy who loves boating and I could use some help:

Well the wedding is over - cost us a ton ... we are broke but I dont want to wait until my youngest graduates from college to get the boat going again.......and I dont trust the engines I have (looooong story) and frankly I dont trust any of the non-premium builders but cant afford the premium guys yet.

I think the smartest move for me in the short run is to buy two new factory NEW 502s, move my accessories over, get them dyno tuned (carbs etc) and re-installed by a local guy I have come to trust .... I will also be changing out the transmissions so that both motors are regular rotation and the ratios are higher so I can spin the motors easily....then I will sell the extra parts.

Is there anyone on here in the business that gets some kind of discount on Factory New GM Marine motors and would be willing to pass along some savings to me if I run the business through them? I'm not looking for handouts - just hate to pay retail if I don't need to. Maybe you need the volume or something?

Thanks

kennyo 04-14-2008 06:59 AM

Those engine will need to be checked also(clearances, etc..). There are a lot of people that run them with success, but some that don't. My buddy bought a boat with a new crate 502 and it spun a rod bearing because they left the 6 qt. pan that came with it on it. High rpm run sucked the pan dry and Boom!

Chris Sunkin 04-14-2008 08:43 AM

Swamp,

I have two Mercruiser 502's on the way to me. They're 465/500 horse and you can cam/carb them up to about 600hp. They're absolutely new on the inside. I'll PM you.

Chris Sunkin 04-14-2008 08:45 AM

You're PM's are turned off. You'll have to contact me if you're interested.

fund razor 04-14-2008 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swamplizard (Post 2523706)
Guys - I know I am not the typical OSO guy - I dont have a 100 mph boat and I don't race

Contrary to what some members would lead you to believe.... the only requirement here is a computer. Most of us do not have 100 mph boats, heck... some of us are between boats.
Never feel bad about your boat.
Anybody on this site who tries to make another member feel bad about having a slow boat or being between boats is part of what is wrong with performance boating. And... frankly.... part of what is wrong with OSO.

Get ahold of Chris about your engine.
He is both knowledgeable and honest.

Good luck.

Swamplizard 04-14-2008 12:18 PM

fund razor - I meant no disrespect in my openning statement .... I have a big cruiser with arnesons so the cruiser guys typically cant help me and this is not an all out gofast either....frankly the guys here on OSO have never let me down information-wise or dissed the harley superstar. It is what it is right? Anyway I will check in with Chris.

Swamplizard 04-14-2008 12:24 PM

Chris - shoot me an email tonight will ya if you have something that might fit the bill.....
orenard at comcast dot net

fund razor 04-14-2008 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swamplizard (Post 2524716)
fund razor - I meant no disrespect in my openning statement .... I have a big cruiser with arnesons so the cruiser guys typically cant help me and this is not an all out gofast either....frankly the guys here on OSO have never let me down information-wise or dissed the harley superstar. It is what it is right? Anyway I will check in with Chris.

Cool.
I didn't think that you were being disrespectful at all. I thought that maybe you had been disrespected. There seems to have been a recent resurgence in giving members a hard time over their equipment or lack thereof. As if the ride makes the man. I am kind of tired of it, having been raised on cruisers. Wanted to make sure that it wasn't happening to you.

Sounds like Chris just bought some similar mills. He may be able to lead you to a good source. Good luck.
Sorry for the hijack.

bouyhunter 04-14-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fund razor (Post 2524866)
Cool.
I didn't think that you were being disrespectful at all. I thought that maybe you had been disrespected. There seems to have been a recent resurgence in giving members a hard time over their equipment or lack thereof. As if the ride makes the man. I am kind of tired of it, having been raised on cruisers. Wanted to make sure that it wasn't happening to you.

I kinda took the original post the same way.
I have been knocked twice on this board recently because my boat didn't meet up to someone's standards of Offshore Performance.
Are you freakin' kidding me - a 24/7 old school Pantera doesn't qualify??
It's also funny that every now and then a thread pops up about "Which boat do you wish you would have never sold?" And all the guys mention some smaller more manageable boat that was less expensive, and just plain fun.
As long as you have a love of the water, and you're not an azzhat, you're in as far as I'm concerned.

Swamp - good luck in finding what you need.
I also apologize for the hijack - but look at this way, it bumps your thread to the top again:D

jayhawk261 04-14-2008 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fund razor (Post 2524686)
Contrary to what some members would lead you to believe.... the only requirement here is a computer. Most of us do not have 100 mph boats, heck... some of us are between boats.
Never feel bad about your boat.
Anybody on this site who tries to make another member feel bad about having a slow boat or being between boats is part of what is wrong with performance boating. And... frankly.... part of what is wrong with OSO.

Get ahold of Chris about your engine.
He is both knowledgeable and honest.

Good luck.

But it is fun to make fun of Stecz for not having a boat!:evilb:

RunninHotRacing163.1 04-14-2008 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=Swamplizard;2523706]Guys - I know I am not the typical OSO guy - I dont have a 100 mph boat and I don't race...but like all of you I am a DIY guy who loves boating and I could use some help:

Well the wedding is over - cost us a ton ... we are broke but I dont want to wait until my youngest graduates from college to get the boat going again.......and I dont trust the engines I have (looooong story) and frankly I dont trust any of the non-premium builders but cant afford the premium guys yet.

I think the smartest move for me in the short run is to buy two new factory NEW 502s, move my accessories over, get them dyno tuned (carbs etc) and re-installed by a local guy I have come to trust .... I will also be changing out the transmissions so that both motors are regular rotation and the ratios are higher so I can spin the motors easily....then I will sell the extra parts.

Is there anyone on here in the business that gets some kind of discount on Factory New GM Marine motors and would be willing to pass along some savings to me if I run the business through them? I'm not looking for handouts - just hate to pay retail if I don't need to. Maybe you need the volume or something?

Hey BIG Daddy get ahold of MR HORSEPOWER aka Dean Gellner he'll take real good care of ya ..... & honest as the day is Long .... Dont worry about the boat thing Bro they razzed me too my boat might be small but i make up for it in other areas :D:D Good Luck

RunninHotRacing163.1 04-14-2008 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayhawk261 (Post 2525055)
But it is fun to make fun of Stecz for not having a boat!:evilb:

:D:D But he's in between :cool-smiley-027:

jayhawk261 04-14-2008 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing158 (Post 2525076)
:D:D But he's in between :cool-smiley-027:

In between 2 guys?:D:grinser010:

(Sorry for hijacking! I have a feeling there will be some payback as well!)

offthefront 04-14-2008 07:04 PM

Swamplizard ... where is LHP Florida? There was a Harley in the classifieds that was located in Washington State ....cool looking cruiser .... I'd like to see your boat ...good luck ...m

Jupiter Sunsation 04-14-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offthefront (Post 2525131)
Swamplizard ... where is LHP Florida? There was a Harley in the classifieds that was located in Washington State ....cool looking cruiser .... I'd like to see your boat ...good luck ...m

LHP is Lighthouse Point, between Boca and Lauderdale.

Anyone want to bet in how long Wiggler, Jim Darr, Supercat, Leila will respond with an awesome offer on make believe motors?

TxHawk 04-14-2008 07:29 PM

Derebery Performance is able to get NEW marine purpose built 502 MPI longblocks right off the assembly line. These are not converted crate engines. They come with 8 qt pans 502MPI cam etc. You can put a carb setup on them and make 425 Hp with all the reliability you can ask for. Call Danial 903-786-3797

jayhawk261 04-14-2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExcaliburHawk40 (Post 2525162)
Derebery Performance is able to get NEW marine purpose built 502 MPI longblocks right off the assembly line. These are not converted crate engines. They come with 8 qt pans 502MPI cam etc. You can put a carb setup on them and make 425 Hp with all the reliability you can ask for. Call Danial 903-786-3797

And they are good people as well. We toured their facility last summer, and is is a nice place. We were treated great as well.

offshoredrillin 04-14-2008 07:58 PM

hey swampy,
Chris is a good guy and a straight shooter, if he can help you he will. also Dean gellner, and Mark boos at precision. i have seen your posts for a while and dont worry about your boat, as long as you dont look down your nose like a couple of the hypocrites on here you are fine. nothing worse than not having anything and trying to force other people to meet your standards...

RunninHotRacing163.1 04-14-2008 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 2525203)
hey swampy,
Chris is a good guy and a straight shooter, if he can help you he will. also Dean gellner, and Mark boos at precision. i have seen your posts for a while and dont worry about your boat, as long as you dont look down your nose like a couple of the hypocrites on here you are fine. nothing worse than not having anything and trying to force other people to meet your standards...

Dyum BIG Daddy where's the button to change the sig line ????:D Not a hypocrite & PROUD :cool-smiley-027:

RunninHotRacing163.1 04-14-2008 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayhawk261 (Post 2525195)
And they are good people as well. We toured their facility last summer, and is is a nice place. We were treated great as well.

1ST class all the way :cool-smiley-027::cool-smiley-011:

Swamplizard 04-26-2008 09:05 AM

you guys crack me up - "between" - lol

Michael1 04-26-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bouyhunter (Post 2525026)
I kinda took the original post the same way.
I have been knocked twice on this board recently because my boat didn't meet up to someone's standards of Offshore Performance.
Are you freakin' kidding me - a 24/7 old school Pantera doesn't qualify??
It's also funny that every now and then a thread pops up about "Which boat do you wish you would have never sold?" And all the guys mention some smaller more manageable boat that was less expensive, and just plain fun.
As long as you have a love of the water, and you're not an azzhat, you're in as far as I'm concerned.

Swamp - good luck in finding what you need.
I also apologize for the hijack - but look at this way, it bumps your thread to the top again:D

That's terrible. You know the old saying "money doesn't buy class". Obviously, these people have some issues, and I recommend just ignoring them like any other nut. Fortunately, most of the people here are cool.

To the original poster, you might check out crateenginedepot.com. I've never bought from them, but they seem to have some good prices on GM crate engines. Some clearance checking, and replacing the exhaust valves with higher temp gear would be recommended.

Michael

sy goldberg 04-26-2008 03:27 PM

Picking On Stecz !
 
I really don't think this place is the right venue to pick on STECZ,and his being a founding member of GA(GAYS ANONYMOUS) should warrant some respect on OSO.:D:D:D:D

R Addiction 04-26-2008 06:01 PM

Swamp, See us OSO'rs are a good bunch. You should hang here more often. We're not as bad as JJ makes us out to be.:grinser010::D

I work at a GM dealership, not sure what I can do for ya but if you need any info feel free to PM me.:D

Swamplizard 01-26-2010 02:50 PM

Well I am back from the "brink" having been unemployed for half of 2009 - brutal year and in no position to fix the Harley. 2010 is a new year and I am re-visiting the gas engine builds I need. Unfortunately the bucks are going to take a while but I hope to get situated soon. Probably just rebuild the one broken lump to get her moving again and see if I can afford a couple of 540 or 555 long blocks for a nice upgrade.

Keep your eyes open for me guys!

northernoffshore 01-26-2010 05:18 PM

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i have 2 540's brand new 20,000. 239-437-9480 jay.


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