checkmate chine walk
 

ok...back in the early 80 living at LOTO i had a 17 foot checkmate with a 150....bad ass fun little boat....but that chine walk could scare ya....i'm mean you can drive through it working the steering wheel...but on the edge it could get pretty wild...with gas prices i am going to have to downsize...i'm thinking about a 24 foot checkmate pulsare with a 300 merc...anyone know about this boat or something comparable...do they still ride wild like the older ones....thanks in advance

Chip Cecil

Can't imagine a 300 outboard would get a heavy 24 going fast enough to get it un-stuck.

I have a 21' Checkmate with a 235 hp on a jack plate. It can get squirelly and chinewalk if you air it out and hang it on the edge. It is a fun 2nd boat to fly around the lake with. It doesnt handle ANY size or kind of wave without your body being jarred hard though

When I was 18 I bought a 18 Checkmate with a 235 Evinrude, I have no idea how I'm still alive as I thought I was invisable in that death trap.... good times good times!!!!! I thought I was really moving up in life two years later I sold that for a 22 Velocity with a Big Block!!!

Too Funny

Maybe you should educate yourself on what a 24' Pulsare is before you make this post.

Missed the Pulsare. Was thinking about the deep vee 24.

Hey, Magic- instead of getting your panties all wadded up the crack of your a$$, you could have pointed out that possibly I was mistaken. Or maybe not. At least you got to biitch slap someone today- good work.

Remember those who livin in glass house shall throw stones. Practice what you preach.

You must have mistaken me for someone else. I make mistakes and am the first to admit when I'm wrong. I'm glad I now have someone like you to follow me around to point mine out for me- it'll take a load off.

P.S. The actual quote I think you were grasping for was "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".

Well you caught me in a mistake, I guess were even. Don't fladder yourself, I am by no means following you around nor will I ever.

Sorry Chip for the thread hyjack.

Awwhh... those wonderfull crazy memories.. "Youth" :evilb:
I ran a 16' hustler with a 135HP Evinrude. jacked up 2"+.(mid - to late 70's)
I think the boat weight in about 200 lb. I didn't even need a winch, Just yanked it up on the trailer. lol.
Chinewalking was a norm. So much air under the bow.. my friends called it the "perfect.. f' ing machine" (the crazy. wild.. once) and a few..."the suicide boat".

I think a 23' - 24' boat would have less of a problem.. I bumped my ride up to a 21' after the speedy Hustler.
But I never had so much fun since..

I bought a brand new 16foot Checkmate right out of highschool in 1982 I was bad azz !! It had a 115 Merc with power trim on the back and I was able to hit 55 mph and I was one of the fastest boats around at the time. Red and silver metalflake. Aw....those were the days..if I only new it then

Man, I know exactly what you are saying. I met some great people way back then while boating with that Mate and are still very close to a bunch. Epeek and I used to tie up way back then and party just like we do now !!

Hell yes! I had a little 16' baja sport back in the early 90's. Blew the 110 that came with, and replaced with a merc 200 + mods, hydraulic jack plate, nose cone etc. etc. Major handful but loads of fun. I miss those days!

I'm thinking a 24 will probably run 75+ with a 300.
Hydro stream was resurrected for a while as X-Stream... not 100% sure if they still exist, or changed name back to hydrostream. I think their biggest boat was only 21.
Also, tuff builds a beautiful 28' and a nice 21, but don't think there's anything in between.

I got a 18 Formula (1979, but MINT condition... barely scratches on the original gel coat).. got a custom jack plate and we used to run a 235hp til we blew it and now weve got a Evinrude 225HO on it.. (hearing around 260ish horse?)

With new steering it chine walks a bit less but its still real squirrely from 60-75mph.... and when its running on fumes it can get pretty flighty.. Like they've said above... i've come to not have a problem driving through it for the most part..

Can't imagine you'd get any crazy chine walking with a 24 checkmate with a 300.... would probably be a nice 75-80 mph boat at WOT

just wish my damn formula was a little lighter haha

I had a Checkmate Mx14, with a 90 hp Merc. It was THE scariest boat I've ever driven. First time I put it in the water and got on a plane, it scared me so badly, I almost turned right around, and put it back on the trailer, to sell it. I got better at it, but it would make you white knuckle it at about 40 and above.

I picked up a red and silver metalflake 16' checkmate a few years back. Had to gut it and basically rebuild the whole thing. finished it up and stuck a Johnson 175 on it. Yeah... Scary would be a very good description. Sticking it in the water you had to have a real shallow ramp or you'ld sink in with that darn motor on the back. Reminded me of a commedians description of a boat. Said it was a bathtub with a tornado strapped to the back... Pretty accurate if you asked me. My friend still has it and it still has the 175 on it. Though he doesn't really open it up. He said something about wanting to live... LOL

Wild rides in those outboards . Had this hydrostream with a worked 235 on it. Rode on the cav plate aired out . A wild ride working the wheel.

I miss that little boat....I couldn't imagine trying to run LOTO on a busy weekend...I don't think you could huh....I will get back there one day...would something like a old scarab panther be enough boat on a weekend at LOTO?

I had a 18' Hydrostream Valero with a 2.4 Bridgeport on it. 6" jack plate, foot feed & trim in the wheel. That was a riot to drive. Chine walk was an issue when you would string it out. Although after the bottom was tuned it was more predictable. My brother has a 20' Checkmate Enchanter 2.5 Merc. 12" jack plate. I'm not sure of the difference in the botom between what your looking at and his. He had the bottomed tuned also adn the boat is easy to drive and takes ruff water prety well. We've run it in michigan a lot.

My 28' Convincer gets hairy at 76-78 mph. Has twin 260 efi's with sportmasters. The bow starts swinging from side to side. I need to switch back to the regular lowers with nose cones. It does not like sportmasters.

We just sold our 21 Checkmate Pulsare with 225 EFI Merc. That thing could get squirrely once you trimmed it out. Not a very good boat for LI sound though. That 19 degree Vee was unforgiving in the chop.

i lovr that 28 AT there.....:evilb:

That is a sweet photo! That's about how my little 16'er ran too.
I know a guy in MD that has that same Hydrostream hull.
Had a great shot of him airing it out a few years back, but not sure where the photo is. Probably buried in closet somewhere.

Thanks. Just bought it in December, so I haven't used it yet. 10 days and counting!

what do ya have for power.....

525/XR. Should run mid 70's on a good day.

We did? When did this happen? About time....

Yeah, I never learned how to steer out of the chine walk in our 21, especially when it was trimmed. Would usually have to back off the throttles a little and trim it down some. We didn't have tabs though which could have helped.

Some guy from Michigan picked it up last week. Got $12,600 for it. Good riddens.

I had a 19' Pulse with a 175 2.5 on it. It would chine walk at 62, I never tried to drive though it because I didn't think it had much more in it. (Potential to get scary) We had alot fun with it, but not good when it got rough. Great for skiing, No jack plate, dual cable steering. Doug