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bmanafort 05-27-2008 07:21 AM

My boat made the paper this weekend
 
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I was up the ct river at Harbor park and someone from the paper snapped this pic.

bmanafort 05-27-2008 07:22 AM

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my cousin was on the second page

stainless 05-27-2008 08:09 AM

Cool ! Looks good!:cool-smiley-027:

buck183 05-27-2008 08:33 AM

Looks like you guys were cold.

Buck

Gladhe8er 05-27-2008 09:30 AM

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I made the online paper this weekend as well.

www.westportnow.com

JB4Boyne 05-27-2008 10:27 AM

You should make them girls ride on my boat so your buddy doesn't have to stand on the deck.:drink:

GLH 05-27-2008 10:34 AM

So the Cig packed with people having fun on the first page and the Fountain somewhere in the paper... :D

baddogz28 05-27-2008 10:56 AM

That's cool man. Congrats!

CAP071 05-27-2008 11:02 AM

Life Jackets anyone? :D

Mentalpause 05-27-2008 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by CAP071 (Post 2570972)
Life Jackets anyone? :D

I was laughing at the title about safety, with people on the deck and engine hatch under power!:p

hp500efi 05-27-2008 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Mentalpause (Post 2571030)
I was laughing at the title about safety, with people on the deck and engine hatch under power!:p

yep, in Wisconsin there would have been a few tickets issued.

CAP071 05-27-2008 11:44 AM

I was wondering what that cigs maximum passenger capacity is also ? :p

gotime34 05-27-2008 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by bmanafort (Post 2570728)
I was up the ct river at Harbor park and someone from the paper snapped this pic.

I've had quite a few run-ins with the bouncers at that place, more my friends than me. I love the paint on your boat, looks great.

OL40SVX 05-27-2008 12:13 PM

Cool Billy!! Good seeing you at Claudios this weekend. Boat look great!

bmanafort 05-27-2008 01:03 PM

Plenty of vests, sober driver, and I was idling in gear waiting for him to get off the deck. Tough crowd

CAP071 05-27-2008 01:05 PM

Just breakin stones. Truth be told we let 99% of boaters go free, Unless they cop an attitude or are (100% wasted)

bmanafort 05-27-2008 01:14 PM

I do wish that the title was different, it implies that I am an unsafe boater which is far from the truth. Someone in the Cigarette forum said that my insurance agent better not see it. I replied that I would invite my insurance agent to investigate my boating. I had Plenty of vests, sober driver, and I was idling in gear waiting for him to get off the deck. 13 years of owning 7 different boats, never a claim, and I have been boarded a good half dozen times and have never received a ticket. Just clearing some things up that the picture doesnt show, no offense taken. One question I do have is how many people does a boat like mine hold legally?

Queenie 05-27-2008 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by bmanafort (Post 2571139)
One question I do have is how many people does a boat like mine hold legally?

Excellent question, I was just getting to ask this myself.

I won't allow anymore than 6 people at one time on our Apache, and prefer 5. Two people up front in each bolster and 4 on the bench seat that sit comfortably and all have access to grab handles.

Our friends don't have a back bench seat, but seating for 3 comfortably in the back and two bolsters up front.

I don't want to be on a boat when no one can sit down or hold on without a problem.

I know there is a weight capacity limit to the boat, but you'd think there'd be a body limit depending on how many seats are available on your boat, IMO.

Nice pic of your boat by the way!

BlackJack58 05-27-2008 02:38 PM

Isn't there a capacity plate or label somewhere near the stern or in the engine compartment? It will list number of people OR total weight capacity of passengers.

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Portals/4...e/capacity.gif

Gizmo 05-27-2008 02:46 PM

I had my boat checked by the Auxilary two weeks ago at SML. He asked me about the capacity plate. I couldn't find one anywhere.:cool-smiley-026:

Queenie 05-27-2008 02:47 PM

It has a weight capacity plate, but not number of people capacity plate.

omerta one 05-27-2008 02:57 PM

In Missouri persons sitting on the hatch and/or standing on the deck would constitute a violation if the boat was in gear and not engaged in the process of mooring/casting off. The statutes may be less restrictive in Ct. A copy of the Mo reg follows:

Motorboats, regulations as to passenger seating while under way--person in water, flag required, when--slow speed required, when--penalty.

306.126. 1. The operator of a motorboat shall not allow any person to ride or sit on the gunwales, decking over the bow, railing, top of seat back or decking over the back of the motorboat while under way, unless such person is inboard of adequate guards or railing provided on the motorboat to prevent a passenger from being lost overboard. As used in this section, the term "adequate guards or railing" means guards or railings having a height parameter of at least six inches but not more than eighteen inches. Nothing in this section shall be construed to mean that passengers or other persons aboard a motorboat cannot occupy the decking over the bow of the boat to moor it to a mooring buoy or to cast off from such a buoy, or for any other necessary purpose. The provisions of this section shall not apply to vessels propelled by sail.

bmanafort 05-27-2008 08:07 PM

What the picture doesnt show is that we just pulled off the dock from harbor park and the guy on the deck just finished with the line and was making his way back in.

Queenie 05-27-2008 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by bmanafort (Post 2571606)
What the picture doesnt show is that we just pulled off the dock from harbor park and the guy on the deck just finished with the line and was making his way back in.

Not everyone is making assumptions here.....it's a great pic! If that was my boat, I'd be telling everyone too!

baywatch 05-27-2008 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by bmanafort (Post 2571606)
What the picture doesnt show is that we just pulled off the dock from harbor park and the guy on the deck just finished with the line and was making his way back in.

I actually got pulled over last year @ the fall harbor hop @ LOTO for what Omerta is showing. The kicker was that I was totally in neutral and the water patroler was just fishing for a drunk. My wife jumped up to put the bow line and along he came out of no where.

He could tell that I was sober, that my two year old was wearing his pfd and that I was quite confident about the fact that the boat was in neutral and that I had done nothing wrong. He asked to see pfd's at which point I killed boat engines because I still was wearing my lanyard. Once he saw the jackets he was on his way (didn't ask for any documentation or anything else).

baywatch 05-27-2008 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by ChiefApache89 (Post 2571242)
It has a weight capacity plate, but not number of people capacity plate.

Mine is the same, just a weight capacity. My 36' is very tight in the cockpit and I wouldn't want any more than a max of 6 people. Most the time it's just me my wife and our 2 year old.

Queenie 05-27-2008 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by baywatch (Post 2571694)
Mine is the same, just a weight capacity. My 36' is very tight in the cockpit and I wouldn't want any more than a max of 6 people. Most the time it's just me my wife and our 2 year old.

Agreed....like I said, prefer 5 and 99% of the time, it's just me and Rob.

We have a poker run in a few weeks and have a couple pusing us to put them on our boat, putting us to 7 people. I told them sorry but no. I'm not comfortable with 7 people on the boat, even if the lake is flat.

Dirty Bird 05-27-2008 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by JB4Boyne (Post 2570915)
You should make them girls ride on my boat so your buddy doesn't have to stand on the deck.:drink:

Tough Crowd = Jealous crowd. Looked like a fun day of boating with front page to boot. That is what cigging is all about

xconn92 05-28-2008 08:38 AM

Billy, your boat kicks azz. See you on the river or the sound this summer!

Mentalpause 05-28-2008 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by omerta one (Post 2571252)
In Missouri persons sitting on the hatch and/or standing on the deck would constitute a violation if the boat was in gear and not engaged in the process of mooring/casting off. The statutes may be less restrictive in Ct. A copy of the Mo reg follows:

Motorboats, regulations as to passenger seating while under way--person in water, flag required, when--slow speed required, when--penalty.

306.126. 1. The operator of a motorboat shall not allow any person to ride or sit on the gunwales, decking over the bow, railing, top of seat back or decking over the back of the motorboat while under way, unless such person is inboard of adequate guards or railing provided on the motorboat to prevent a passenger from being lost overboard. As used in this section, the term "adequate guards or railing" means guards or railings having a height parameter of at least six inches but not more than eighteen inches. Nothing in this section shall be construed to mean that passengers or other persons aboard a motorboat cannot occupy the decking over the bow of the boat to moor it to a mooring buoy or to cast off from such a buoy, or for any other necessary purpose. The provisions of this section shall not apply to vessels propelled by sail.

I didn't intend to bust any chops. But being from LOTO they are pretty strict on having people on the engine hatch. So the title and picture seemed ironic.

Omerto, I've had the officers here tell me "under way" referred to above was construed as the engines running!:eek:

I got stopped one time in the no wake by grand glaize for folks inside standing up behind the bolsters, officer thought they were sitting on top of the sides of the boat. He had a trainee with him and just wanted practice putting people through the drill. Funny part was he had stopped me two hours prior going into Frankie and Louie's since he thought I was not in idle, which I was, and had the trainee practice asking me all the questions.

At Grand Glaize my wife got frustrated with him and made a comment about him not even remembering walking us through it a couple hours ago - and he politely apologized, thanked us and ended the process....:p

AIR TIME 05-28-2008 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by BlackJack58 (Post 2571229)
Isn't there a capacity plate or label somewhere near the stern or in the engine compartment? It will list number of people OR total weight capacity of passengers.

http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/Portals/4...e/capacity.gif

thats on smaller boats under 23 or21 ft I think my 24ol does not have one.

wstultz 05-28-2008 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2572668)
thats on smaller boats under 23 or21 ft I think my 24ol does not have one.

I thought it was boats under 30ft had a plate that listed max capacity of people? Oh well, maybe CAP071 can clear it up.

boatme 05-28-2008 07:55 PM

bmanafort go to this site www.headlinesdirect.com

we can plaque that for you :)

CAP071 05-28-2008 09:07 PM

On August 1, 1973, the USCG effected a regulation, Title 33, Code of Federal Regulation, Section 183, requiring all monohull boats under 20ft. (except sailboats, canoes, kayaks, and inflatable boats) carry a plate posting the Maximum Weight Capacity, Maximum Persons Capacity and Maximum Horsepower Ratings. Boats constructed before this date may have these items posted but may not be in compliance with CFR 183.

These capacity plates can be found near the helm. These plates are yellow with a silver/gray background. Boats that are under 20 ft. have capacity plates labeled "U.S. Coast Guard Maximum Capacities". Boats up to 26ft carry just the "Maximum Capacities" wording.

Boaters are required by law, to obey these safe loading capacities posted on these plates. In addition to the USCG approved weight, load, and horsepower capacities, NMMA Certified boats also list other standards by which they are certified which may include navigation lights, flotation, maneuverability, compartment ventilation, steering, fuel, and electrical systems. If you see the NMMA logo and the words National Marine Manufacturers Association, you can be assured that the boat meets additional industry standards above and beyond the USCG regulations.

wstultz 05-29-2008 09:50 AM

Thanks CAP, I figured you had it covered.

24skaterVA 05-29-2008 11:25 AM

There used to be another rule that stated if you were in a boat under 20' but you were in a boating club (BASS, ski club, etc.) you could go above the CG capacities. We had a 16' Baja w/ a 200 & got stopped a couple times, but since we were members of the ski club it was OK to exceed recomended HP.

CAP071 05-29-2008 11:34 AM

There are all kinds of in's and out's with state regs and stuff.

Just be safe and sober and we over look most cases.

The Menace 05-29-2008 11:59 AM

Nice pics.

Usually a newspaper etc would get a signature of release from the individuals before publishing.

Hopefully for all the passengers the gals were with the right beaus, the beaus were with the right gals, the husbands with the right wife and the wives with the right husband. I would worry about divorce court or jealous mate more than the water police.

Freeryd 05-29-2008 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2572668)
thats on smaller boats under 23 or21 ft I think my 24ol does not have one.

I got a 25 OL and i've got the tag stating max ppl and weight capacity.

320es 05-30-2008 08:50 PM

My 240 sport doesen't have a capacity plate, neither did my 320. I always thought it was under 20'. I actually took out all but five pfd's just so I would have a good excuse to limit the passengers.
It's funny, when I was younger, I had a 17' open bow and always had 8 people a couple of coolers, and 2 bags of towels and sh!t for each girl on board. Now I b!tch at the girlfriend for bringing a huge boat bag when it is just us.


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