Cruisair 12-volt Air Conditioning Unit
Does anyone know anything about these units. I would think that 3500BTU would be plenty for the cabin of my Bullet.
http://www.cruisair.com/self.html http://www.cruisair.com/sheets/L-2425D.pdf |
The Cruisair unit is a 115-volt 3500btu unit that comes with an inverter.
Or, would I be better off with a true 12-volt system like the DB Breeze unit? |
also check http://www.cruisencomfortusa.com/mescompressor.html
They had a small write up in the latest powerboat mag. You will probably need a extra battery or two just to run these. |
Originally Posted by tblrklakemo
(Post 2625529)
You will probably need a extra battery or two just to run these.
However, would I be better off getting a true 12-volt system, or buying a 115 system and an inverter. I know the inverter would add to my costs, but I would be able to also use the 115-volt outlets that currently only work when I am connected to Shore Power. |
I doubt if a 3500 btu unit will keep your cabin cool in the Texas sun. You would probably need about a 7000 btu unit.
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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
(Post 2625567)
Yes, I plan to add two more batteries in my Bullet to run the A/C unit.
However, would I be better off getting a true 12-volt system, or buying a 115 system and an inverter. I know the inverter would add to my costs, but I would be able to also use the 115-volt outlets that currently only work when I am connected to Shore Power. |
you're better off installing a regular unit and running a portable 4 stroke generator. my honda 2000 plugs into my shorepower with an adapter, and will run my a/c, fridge, and battery charger for 7+ hours on 1 gallon of gas.
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Originally Posted by HiPerf2000
(Post 2625608)
you're better off installing a regular unit and running a portable 4 stroke generator. my honda 2000 plugs into my shorepower with an adapter, and will run my a/c, fridge, and battery charger for 7+ hours on 1 gallon of gas.
How much your honda weigh? |
Originally Posted by Griff
(Post 2625595)
I doubt if a 3500 btu unit will keep your cabin cool in the Texas sun. You would probably need about a 7000 btu unit.
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Originally Posted by HiPerf2000
(Post 2625608)
you're better off installing a regular unit and running a portable 4 stroke generator. my honda 2000 plugs into my shorepower with an adapter, and will run my a/c, fridge, and battery charger for 7+ hours on 1 gallon of gas.
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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
(Post 2625878)
...I believe that 9000 btu's for my cabin is overkill...
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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
(Post 2625878)
I can get a 9000btu unit for $1075 HERE, I believe that 9000 btu's for my cabin is overkill. :(
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Tough to run AC on 12v alone that is why most have them hooked to shore power.
However if you go that road (12v) I would add some batteries and run them through one engine (might want to get a bigger alternator) so you can idle it to charge the battery. If you gen up a Bullet space might become an issue. I know a v8 is overkill to charge batteries but the AC will suck up any battery set up you have then you need to run an engine anyway, be it gen or V8. On my pig the two Cruiseair AC's run on shore power or on the diesel generator only. Trying to run them on an inverter through the house batteries would be to demanding on them and I have huge battery banks. Just my opinion. |
Originally Posted by tblrklakemo
(Post 2625648)
non-diesel generators make me a little nervous around gas fumes in an engine compartment.....I think thats why most will install a diesel gen in a gas boat.
How much your honda weigh? A stand alone Honda Gen set won't have the protection... plenty of people use them, it isn't 'safe' but if you are careful I guess you can get away with it. On the A/C note, I have looked at them and the one thing that kills the deal is the lack of being able to use them when the boat is on the trailer. Does anyone make a unit that would work without water? Seems like getting the cabin cooled overnight before you run then just keeping it cool would be better than dropping the boat in the water with a hot cabin and trying to get it to cool down. |
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Originally Posted by VetteLT193
(Post 2626287)
That is 100% backwards logic. ALL Marine gas generators have spark protection just like the gas engines do. Almost all diesel gen sets do not (I've only seen one that meets the USCG regs but I've never seen one actually installed)
A stand alone Honda Gen set won't have the protection... plenty of people use them, it isn't 'safe' but if you are careful I guess you can get away with it. On the A/C note, I have looked at them and the one thing that kills the deal is the lack of being able to use them when the boat is on the trailer. Does anyone make a unit that would work without water? Seems like getting the cabin cooled overnight before you run then just keeping it cool would be better than dropping the boat in the water with a hot cabin and trying to get it to cool down. Oh yeah...i think I recall a long thread about this some time ago. would you rather have a diesel gen that had spark protection over a gas unit...on a gas boat? or would you never mix and match no matter what? |
Originally Posted by VetteLT193
(Post 2626287)
...On the A/C note, I have looked at them and the one thing that kills the deal is the lack of being able to use them when the boat is on the trailer. Does anyone make a unit that would work without water?...
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Originally Posted by Frequency
(Post 2626741)
I would be tempted to engineer a self contained water reservoir system with a radiator to connect to the a/c water lines so you could run the a/c on the trailer. Just roll it out of the garage and hook it up.
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not sure of the weight of it, but i put my honda generator on the tip of the bow when running...with exhaust pointed outward. You can't even hear it running when it's up there.
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Says the 12V unit is 48 amps - that is a pretty heavy draw to sustain for hours.
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My HVAC friend says that he never heard of a 12-volt compressor, and that fact would make it nearly impossible to get parts for a 12-volt AC unit. Also the drain on the batteries would be greater than any I expect.
So, I think my best bet is to find and install a true 115-volt system and connect it to my Shore Power wiring. I will be able to use it at my dock or connect a portable generator to the Shore Power outlet. Thanks all! :D |
Originally Posted by tblrklakemo
(Post 2626610)
Oh yeah...i think I recall a long thread about this some time ago.
would you rather have a diesel gen that had spark protection over a gas unit...on a gas boat? or would you never mix and match no matter what?
Originally Posted by Frequency
(Post 2626741)
I would be tempted to engineer a self contained water reservoir system with a radiator to connect to the a/c water lines so you could run the a/c on the trailer. Just roll it out of the garage and hook it up.
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Originally Posted by Clay Washington
(Post 2627687)
My HVAC friend says that he never heard of a 12-volt compressor, and that fact would make it nearly impossible to get parts for a 12-volt AC unit. Also the drain on the batteries would be greater than any I expect.
So, I think my best bet is to find and install a true 115-volt system and connect it to my Shore Power wiring. I will be able to use it at my dock or connect a portable generator to the Shore Power outlet. Thanks all! :D |
If anyone has any questions regarding our 12 volt system, or the benefit from using a true 12 volt system over a 115 volt a/c system fire away.
Thanks Chris Frye |
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