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FOXMXPSYCHO 08-07-2008 11:05 PM

30ft eliminator eagle XP? ive been to catalina island 3 times in it and never broke anything, averaged 60-70 on the way there in the morning different story on the way back later in the evening but didnt have problems.

derrickc 08-08-2008 09:22 AM

I like the Eliminator 30 eagle without canopies, but I don't see many of them.

Uncle Dave 08-08-2008 12:48 PM

Th Eagle is a nice boat, and a great hull designed from Ron Ehde (at least it used to be)

but when I looked at them in the shop at least a couple of years ago- there were 2 things I didnt like.

The "30" ft measuremt includes the swim step. so it wasnt really a 30 footer-

It wasnt vacumm bagged and there was a significant amount of wood in it.

Eliminator popped the halfs out and sat them on the ground then re-aligned them out of the mold- theory being they needed to get the mold in use again right away- and the wobbly goblin alignment resulted in cracking at the alignment point. Which was covere dup by the rail.



Maybe its changed now but that wa smy observation.

Uncle Dave

Laveycraft 2750 - in 2 months!
Laveycraft 20.8 Sebring 406/ITS
Fleetwood nitrous toy hauler
Yamaha raptor 700/Kawi KFX 450
Nissan Titan

GT 08-08-2008 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by DMOORE (Post 2633807)
The Howard bullet 28 ran 122 with a single. Your boat must seriously haul ass.


Darrell.

I ran that Howard 122 last year and 130 this year with quite a bit of power going through it. Its a VERY stable boat, but it really is in my opinion a lake boat that can occasionally be taken in the ocean. Power for Power, there are other vees that do go faster with the same power, (under 900hp)until you get to a certain point, then the power becomes unmanageable in most vees.

Speed isnt everything, If I had to choose a boat for strictly the ocean 28-30' long, on the West Coast I would choose a 29 Lavey and on the East I would choose a 30' Activator. I have a customer in Germany that dropped on of my 848's in his 2006 30' Activator and he is running over 107 mph everywhere he goes and that boat will handle any water he has found in the ocean. Lots of choices and lots of opinions, good luck:)

Gary

Anarchy Powerboats 08-08-2008 09:36 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Well you live near Louie, ask him about the attachment.
I sued them and won.

Originally Posted by boat.crazy (Post 2643287)
Im sorry to hear you were dissapointed in your Kachinas. Why the dissapointment? I have owned several and now have a deposit on the all new 39' Patron. I have always had great luck with my boats and got just about all of my money back when I sold them. I think some of the designs people pick may make it hard to sell but if you design your boat to be appealing to most then you have no problem. I would stronly suggest looking at their 30' Drone because it was the best riding boat I had ever been in period.


Anarchy Powerboats 08-08-2008 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Mychal (Post 2643513)
Kachina's are a joke...
Honestly,every hull in the Kachina line up is a splash of someone else's design....they have no clue as to how to build a boat from scratch..
A while back I was in Phoenix for a World of Outlaws sprint show,we had some time to kill and stopped by the kachina factory.I still remember asking Louie Majors(Owner) about his new step bottom v's(SleekCraft splash),True story...he tells me they stuck a 2x4 in the mold in order to create a stepped bottom,No R&D,nothing...just glassed a 2x4 in the mold,in order to have a step bottom in the line up.
They are a VALUE builder,of course it's a a lot easier to charge less when you don't incur tooling costs.
I believe the new Patron is a splash of an early model Cigarette...

30 Shadow= 30' Sleek hull
34 Drone = 35 Fountain Hull
39 Patron= 38 Cigarette Hull

Anarchy Powerboats 08-08-2008 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Steamin Rice (Post 2643860)
When I sold the boat it was like new, no stress cracks, no loose rigging, no rattles, etc.

That cuz you drive like a girl Greg ya big poodle!:evilb::evilb::evilb:

Uncle Dave 08-08-2008 11:10 PM

Pick Vs. Build
 

Originally Posted by Speedpro1 (Post 2648038)
Baja builds a pretty good quality boat and their deep V runs great in offshore conditions.

:cool-smiley-027:

A pretty good quality boat is a true statement.

But complete customization is one of the reasons to go West coast as is a personal relationship with the people that build it.

As far as I know (tell me if I have it wrong) you don't have Baja build "yours"- you pick one and go from there.

Its a factory thing vs a custom shop thing. (although it is a good factory from what Ive seen)


Uncle Dave

Laveycraft 2750 - in 2 months!
Laveycraft 20.8 Sebring 406/ITS
Fleetwood nitrous toy hauler
Yamaha raptor 700/Kawi KFX 450
Nissan Titan

Uncle Dave 08-08-2008 11:15 PM

What a complaint list.....
 

Originally Posted by METAL BROS RACING (Post 2648879)
Well you live near Louie, ask him about the attachment.
I sued them and won.

YEESH! what a nightmare! How many counts did you win on?

I cant imagine dealing with all that after plunking down my hard earned money.

Not a fan to begin with but I cant believe anyone would pull that much BS.



Uncle Dave

Laveycraft 2750 - in 2 months!
Laveycraft 20.8 Sebring 406/ITS
Fleetwood nitrous toy hauler
Yamaha raptor 700/Kawi KFX 450
Nissan Titan

Anarchy Powerboats 08-09-2008 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 2648930)
YEESH! what a nightmare! How many counts did you win on?

I cant imagine dealing with all that after plunking down my hard earned money.

Not a fan to begin with but I cant believe anyone would pull that much BS.



Uncle Dave

Laveycraft 2750 - in 2 months!
Laveycraft 20.8 Sebring 406/ITS
Fleetwood nitrous toy hauler
Yamaha raptor 700/Kawi KFX 450
Nissan Titan

It was only a 2 day bench trial so we had to pick our strongest complaints and go with it, we won on poor workmanship and we won on loss of use but no damages on that count because my attorney didn't furnish damages on that, we also had his countersuit thrown out. No real substantial damages were collected but that wasn't ever the point anyhow......


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