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JKAT 08-06-2008 03:00 PM

deep v vs cat
 
New here. I have a deep v lavey craft love the boat , But I have this cazy inch to get a 25' or 26' daytona. I love the way they look. Is it worth getting a cat. Or stay with the deep V. Thanks

wigginout 08-06-2008 03:13 PM

For 0-100 speed it's hard to beat a cat. I like bolsters and the ride of a vee. Cabin goes to vee. I love my Scarab but a friend had a 10 year old Skater 26" with 300's. It was a blast but in rough water mine would eat him up. Answer is make enough money to have one of each.:cool:

TeamSaris 08-06-2008 03:51 PM

Skater never made a 26. Maybe a 24? If your going to get a cat get a real tunnel, not an eliminater.

gsmith9898 08-06-2008 04:25 PM

If your boating on a lake, get a eliminator. Out in the ocean get a skater. Best cat for the money on the lake is eliminator, best cat in the rough is skater.

Semper Fi 08-06-2008 04:58 PM

check with insurance BEFORE you do anything- since you never had a cat before, you may not be able to get insurance. IF you can, it will be very expensive.

wigginout 08-06-2008 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 2646585)
Skater never made a 26. Maybe a 24? If your going to get a cat get a real tunnel, not an eliminater.

How about 28, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a 24. Top end was around 115.

T2x 08-07-2008 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by gsmith9898 (Post 2646633)
If your boating on a lake, get a eliminator. Out in the ocean get a skater. Best cat for the money on the lake is eliminator, best cat in the rough is skater.

Horse feathers.......

I don't care what "lake" you are referring to...a Skater is a better all around boat...rough water and calm...than anything Eliminator ever dreamed of.

It's a California thing:D:D

T2x

gsmith9898 08-07-2008 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 2647153)
Horse feathers.......

I don't care what "lake" you are referring to...a Skater is a better all around boat...rough water and calm...than anything Eliminator ever dreamed of.

It's a California thing:D:D

T2x

Key word was MONEY. If your boating on a normal lake than you will love the ride of a eliminator, If you go to the ocean than you better step up in money and size and get a skater.

rlj676 08-07-2008 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by T2x (Post 2647153)
Horse feathers.......

I don't care what "lake" you are referring to...a Skater is a better all around boat...rough water and calm...than anything Eliminator ever dreamed of.

It's a California thing:D:D

T2x

Unless you don't want wackers in a sub 30 boat, need the "cabin" space, aren't racing anyone in the rough, and have a limited budget. West Coast cats can definitely fit the bill as the better all around "family" boat.:drink:

If you're looking for best performance in any water, than Skater it is.

But, as Semper Fi said, you better check around on insurance as it can be shocking.:eek:

(I've been quoted $2900 a year for a 26 Daytona with a HO, and 6 month layup!!!!:mad:)

Ratickle 08-07-2008 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by rlj676 (Post 2647185)
Unless you don't want wackers in a sub 30 boat, need the "cabin" space, aren't racing anyone in the rough, and have a limited budget. West Coast cats can definitely fit the bill as the better all around "family" boat.:drink:

If you're looking for best performance in any water, than Skater it is.

But, as Semper Fi said, you better check around on insurance as it can be shocking.:eek:

(I've been quoted $2900 a year for a 26 Daytona with a HO, and 6 month layup!!!!:mad:)

I was quoted $7000 for a Mares cat or OE vs $700 for the BT.:eek:

WakezoneINS 08-07-2008 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Semper Fi (Post 2646669)
check with insurance BEFORE you do anything- since you never had a cat before, you may not be able to get insurance. IF you can, it will be very expensive.

100% Agreed. Insurance may kill that itch for a CAT. ;)

T2x 08-08-2008 07:43 AM

So to sum it all up........

Cats are faster and handle better.

Vees have better cabins and cost less to insure. They are also less costly to insure, and the insurance costs less. Finally, most insurance premiums are lower on vee bottoms.

Is that clear?

Personally, I drive a boat...not an insurance bill.

T2x

Tazz 08-08-2008 08:27 AM

The insurance isn't as different as you may think. It's largely based on top speed, the cats are usually faster making the insurance more, if you have a vee with the same top speed it's not that much less to insure. When the speed goes over 100mph there is a huge jump in premium, most vees don't break 100.

That being said, having both a cat and a vee, I preffer the cat hands down.

SeeYouThere 08-08-2008 03:34 PM

Why is the insurance for cats higher? Presumably because claims are higher. Why is that, are cats more likely to flip over? Crash into something? Get stolen? Sorry if my questions are basic, I am still working on buying my first boat, I am trying to understand how it works.

Semper Fi 08-08-2008 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Tazz (Post 2648296)
The insurance isn't as different as you may think. It's largely based on top speed, the cats are usually faster making the insurance more, if you have a vee with the same top speed it's not that much less to insure. When the speed goes over 100mph there is a huge jump in premium, most vees don't break 100.

That being said, having both a cat and a vee, I preffer the cat hands down.

Taz- it also depends on if you ever owned a cat before. Some companies will not insure you no matter how much experiience you have if you never had one. Taking Tres Martins class may help.

Semper Fi 08-08-2008 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by SeeYouThere (Post 2648674)
Why is the insurance for cats higher? Presumably because claims are higher. Why is that, are cats more likely to flip over? Crash into something? Get stolen? Sorry if my questions are basic, I am still working on buying my first boat, I am trying to understand how it works.

Cats are faster and can be more dangerous. I would say that it probably takes more skill to drive a cat than a similiar V bottom.

Michael1 08-08-2008 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by SeeYouThere (Post 2648674)
Why is the insurance for cats higher? Presumably because claims are higher. Why is that, are cats more likely to flip over? Crash into something? Get stolen? Sorry if my questions are basic, I am still working on buying my first boat, I am trying to understand how it works.

Very simply, the insurance company loss rates are higher for cats, even for ones with the same speed as V's. Since they use air to lift the hull out of the water at high speed, that same air can go too far, and flip the boat. When it flips, you often have deaths, which are extremely expensive for the insurance companies.

Michael

Anarchy Powerboats 08-08-2008 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by gsmith9898 (Post 2647178)
Key word was MONEY. If your boating on a normal lake than you will love the ride of a eliminator, If you go to the ocean than you better step up in money and size and get a skater.

Don't irritate him, he'll just get more cranki'er:drink:
Dad go lay down:evilb:

PARADISE ISLAND 08-09-2008 10:18 PM

skaters are big bucks get 80 mph V-hull just as much fun not to many places to do a 100 mph anyway


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