Best rough water boat ever built?????
09-07-2008, 06:35 PM
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1 to 2 ft chop is small water, an Apache would never catch Gino in that. 6 ft plus is where they do what they do.
They still look good in it though!
http://media.putfile.com/Sacred-Ground-68
They still look good in it though!
http://media.putfile.com/Sacred-Ground-68
maybe Carl and Krista will run it next year
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09-07-2008, 06:54 PM
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One, I was kidding him about his examples.
Two Some azzhole named Mike Vorce f*cked up ever getting a 47 Saber to run against Ruthless but thats another story. I still believe what I said and I watched Kemosabe get to Beaver Island way ahead of everyone else in some rough water this summer in Boyne Thunder but racing has clearly proved over the years that cats are tough to beat. NK
Two Some azzhole named Mike Vorce f*cked up ever getting a 47 Saber to run against Ruthless but thats another story. I still believe what I said and I watched Kemosabe get to Beaver Island way ahead of everyone else in some rough water this summer in Boyne Thunder but racing has clearly proved over the years that cats are tough to beat. NK
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09-07-2008, 10:20 PM
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Fountains known for being fast. Not known for riding the best in rough water, even if Reggie says so
.You're talkiing about a purpose built 1 off Fountain (that doesn't even look like a Fountain) compared to stock boats (Cig. Apache, Skater, etc) that others are talking about.
09-08-2008, 01:21 PM
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I can't speak for all the Apache people as to why they did not enter that race.
But my guess would be they knew it would not be a true rough water race, as that is the time of the year when those waters are calm.
But, if that makes you feel they are afraid of the cats in rough Open Ocean conditions.... Ok.
But my guess would be they knew it would not be a true rough water race, as that is the time of the year when those waters are calm.
But, if that makes you feel they are afraid of the cats in rough Open Ocean conditions.... Ok.
LOL, nice. I'm SOOO glad no one actually tried to use that "excuse" for not showing up at the race with an Apache. "I'm not going because it's not going to be a TRUE rough water race". LOL, that's just absurd.
I am not the one who suggested or said ANYONE was scared of anything, Apache or not. That was someone elses comment that you pinned on me. It was a great venue to see how the "talk" matched up with the "walk". I guess if it's not a Category 5 hurricane, it's not a "true rough water venue" worthy of an Apache to attend? I'm just curious, but are you really being serious with that assumption?
There are PLENTY of big Apaches and deep vee's with owners that can easily afford to have ran the race. It wasn't anymore expensive than a big poker run that we see Apache's attend all the time. Any Apache that would have had any chance at all (Kemo, Geronimo, etc), has an owner with the means to run this race. I can fully understand the logistics and personal schedule may have not lined up, but the water not being rough enough is hysterical.
09-08-2008, 03:04 PM
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LOL, nice. I'm SOOO glad no one actually tried to use that "excuse" for not showing up at the race with an Apache. "I'm not going because it's not going to be a TRUE rough water race". LOL, that's just absurd.
I am not the one who suggested or said ANYONE was scared of anything, Apache or not. That was someone elses comment that you pinned on me. It was a great venue to see how the "talk" matched up with the "walk". I guess if it's not a Category 5 hurricane, it's not a "true rough water venue" worthy of an Apache to attend? I'm just curious, but are you really being serious with that assumption?
There are PLENTY of big Apaches and deep vee's with owners that can easily afford to have ran the race. It wasn't anymore expensive than a big poker run that we see Apache's attend all the time. Any Apache that would have had any chance at all (Kemo, Geronimo, etc), has an owner with the means to run this race. I can fully understand the logistics and personal schedule may have not lined up, but the water not being rough enough is hysterical.
I am not the one who suggested or said ANYONE was scared of anything, Apache or not. That was someone elses comment that you pinned on me. It was a great venue to see how the "talk" matched up with the "walk". I guess if it's not a Category 5 hurricane, it's not a "true rough water venue" worthy of an Apache to attend? I'm just curious, but are you really being serious with that assumption?
There are PLENTY of big Apaches and deep vee's with owners that can easily afford to have ran the race. It wasn't anymore expensive than a big poker run that we see Apache's attend all the time. Any Apache that would have had any chance at all (Kemo, Geronimo, etc), has an owner with the means to run this race. I can fully understand the logistics and personal schedule may have not lined up, but the water not being rough enough is hysterical.
If you have something to prove in rough water against the best Apache (Nykamp says that would be Kemosabe) then have at it. If you don't then the hell with it.
If you want to know why a particular Apache did not attend, then ask the owner.
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09-08-2008, 03:56 PM
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Hey... is this the "best" rough water boat thread or "fastest?"
I would think "best" would include things like ride, attitude to the water when aired out, softness of landing, how bad the boat and you get beat up, etc.
I wouldn't think it would be first boat at a card stop. That would be "fastest."
I would think "best" would include things like ride, attitude to the water when aired out, softness of landing, how bad the boat and you get beat up, etc.
I wouldn't think it would be first boat at a card stop. That would be "fastest."
09-08-2008, 04:36 PM
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I have nothing but love for them, but the only video's we ever get to see are ancient. As an Apache fan it would be fun to see some newer footage of the ones that have been updated mechanically to today's technology.
The Fountain guys catch ten times as much hell as the Apache guys. NOBODY gets more offended than the tribe though and their boats are loved by most!
