I don't think the Bertram 38 Comp would hang anywhere near the 41 Apache in really rough water. The extra length, taller hullsides and deeper deadrise on the Apache would make a world of difference, IMHO.

Plus, I can't think of any race that they (a 38 Bertram and a 41 Apache) actually competed against one another

you think in ruff water the 41 A was better then a bertram ?:rolleyes:

I don't think it is even close, the Apache was far superior. Just my opinion, though.

I never heard of a bertram stuff or flip but there where alot of 41's that had the nose missing.:eek:

Yea, wierd dude :)

IN race conditions of today ,i have to say FOUNTAIN.
I know alot of people dont wanna here that but its tru.:eek:

The best in rough water would be any boat throttled by Bob Saccenti.

ha ha ha hey the old baja 36 came from a cig mold that was sold to baja. I have been in a 38s resin bucket slow boat the cougar 38/ outerlimits 37/ 39 out ride them by a long shot:p, I'd take an old 89 cougar over a 89 resin bucket cig.:p [ ps loved it in the 90s when I was on cape cod and over a summer or two ran a few 38s with stock and one that was close to me at 600hp aside I would kill them in the chop and when we headed for open water running a lil rougher I would stay a 100 ft in front of them getting lots of air but in front back then it was great. NOW WITH THE NEWER BOATS AND STEPS its harder but theres always a faster boat around the cornor:p

The key word in the title of this thread was "best".