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gettin wet 08-21-2008 02:35 PM

First big boat questions?
 
I have been looking to upgrade to a 24-28' boat for a while. I wanted a project at first and lots of people have talked me out of that. However, I saw this boat on eBay as a "mechanic special" which kind of scared me, but I still checked it out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TQ:MOTORS:1123

Guy said he wanted $6,500 minimum with the blown motor. Is it worth that? NADA book only calls for low retail of $6,140. Saw a few guys on here with 454's for sale pretty cheap. Would it be better to buy a new or rebulit engine or have this one rebuilt? Oh, I am awaiting a response as to what exactly happened to the blow the motor.

All thoughts and input would be appreciated. Thanks!!!

SKRAMER 08-21-2008 02:42 PM

I don't feel it's worth $6500 with a blown motor. I would ask about the transom and stringers also. Make sure they aren't rotted. Just my .02

Stormrider 08-21-2008 02:42 PM

Project will cost more in the end than buying one done.
I'm not sure how much you can do on your own, but my advice is to find a good boat owned by one of the respected members on this site.

Chris Sunkin 08-21-2008 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2659854)
Project will cost more in the end than buying one done.
I'm not sure how much you can do on your own, but my advice is to find a good boat owned by one of the respected members on this site.

Beat me to it. You're right on the money there.

There are a ton of boats just like this one on the market- only in good shape and running. The current bid is higher than what the boat is worth- and that's assuming nothing else is wrong with it. You could easily be another 3 grand buried in it if the drive is f'ed.

gettin wet 08-22-2008 09:08 AM

Here is what the seller says.

"owner didn't winterize it, and water in the block cracked it. Bravo One that is 3 years old, owner hit a log and the insurance company paid for a new outdrive."

I can get the block stripped and everything onto a new block with a little help from a buddy at his shop. He just did the same with his boat and it is running great.

I saw a thread where a few people said they had blocks for sale, but can't seem to find it now.

ziemer 08-22-2008 09:16 AM

Might want to look into this one before you jump on that Baja. I don't know anything about this particular boat other than it's a 24' Pantera, with a running motor. :drink: :drink:

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...d.php?t=166277

Chris Sunkin 08-22-2008 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by gettin wet (Post 2660641)
Here is what the seller says.

"owner didn't winterize it, and water in the block cracked it. Bravo One that is 3 years old, owner hit a log and the insurance company paid for a new outdrive."

I can get the block stripped and everything onto a new block with a little help from a buddy at his shop. He just did the same with his boat and it is running great.

I saw a thread where a few people said they had blocks for sale, but can't seem to find it now.

Why would you want to pay $6500 for a boat that doesn't have an engine when you can have all of them you'd want for $6500 with running engines?

BAJA WILL 08-22-2008 09:20 AM

1988, lets do simple math

say $6000 for boat
say$3000 for a used motor
say$2000 to put in rig and BS stuff

you are up to 11K and who knows what else is wrong, not worth it. For your price range do a search on Switzer boats, they made a 24 that should get close to what you want to accomplish.

WILL

Chris Sunkin 08-22-2008 09:40 AM

The truest sign of a neophyte boater is their gross underestimation of what can possibly go wrong and what it will cost to fix it.

Stormrider 08-22-2008 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2660673)
The truest sign of a neophyte boater is their gross underestimation of what it will cost.

sorry chris, but i had to edit. :drink:

Chris Sunkin 08-22-2008 10:37 AM

Actually, that one's fairly universal among all boaters, regardless of experience.

OldSchool 08-22-2008 10:42 AM

Don't do it!!! In the end, you'll be at least 15K into a 10K (at best) boat and be waxing that red hull once a month!!!! There are alot of nice used Baja's and 223 and 242 Formulas out there for sale.

Just my $.02:ernaehrung004:

gettin wet 08-22-2008 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2660651)
Why would you want to pay $6500 for a boat that doesn't have an engine when you can have all of them you'd want for $6500 with running engines?

Fair enough guys. Thats why I post here before making any moves. But where are all these boats in the $6,500 range?

Chris Sunkin 08-22-2008 11:24 AM

They're not advertised at $6500. Get on some Ebay auctions and be high bidder that doesn't meet reserve. Do searches and know how many and which boats are not meeting reserve for the 3rd or 4th time. Then make some offers. Hit Boat Trader and show up with cash, ready to buy. Trust me, you'll be a unique experience for the boat sellers you come across. It's the end of August and the absolute worst time of year to buy a boat- and in a down ecomomy- add onto that $4 gas and you're writing your own ticket. Tou've got to do your homework though.

Stormrider 08-22-2008 12:00 PM

You wont be finding a decent boat in the $6500 range.
Our (at least my) point is, the $6500 boat you are looking at will be 10-12 before you know it.
So buy something a bit better(and more $) up front.

03darkshadow 08-22-2008 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2660790)
You wont be finding a decent boat in the $6500 range.
Our (at least my) point is, the $6500 boat you are looking at will be 10-12 before you know it.
So buy something a bit better(and more $) up front.


True story, I started out lookin at like 5-6k dollar boats and found nothing worth a crap. So now im up to about $20k, where i dont want to be but it'll be a nicer boat.


btw, anyone know of a 24' (roughly) pantera or something similar with the flat deck style? sorry to hijack the thread.


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