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ok, i give up, what did he do with the 16 million?
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Over 20 million now
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From today's news:
Vorce may forfeit confiscated boats, trailers Tuesday, November 04, 2008 The Grand Rapids PressGrand Rapids Press GRAND RAPIDS -- Federal prosecutors are seeking forfeiture of a 42-foot speedboat, a 54-foot yacht and a boat trailer -- with a cumulative value of about $1 million -- seized from troubled local boat broker Michael Vorce, U.S. District Court records show. The boats were purchased by Vorce in an "ongoing scheme" of identity theft used to obtain the vessels and defraud banks, prosecutors wrote in records filed Monday. Authorities seized the yachts from Vorce on Sept. 3 and Sept. 4, days after the 31-year-old and an associate, James Jett, 29, were taken into federal custody in Chicago. The pair are charged with stealing the identity of a Milwaukee lawyer while trying to secure a $391,450 loan to buy a 48-foot Sea Ray, authorities said. Each man remains in custody without bond while awaiting trial in that case. Assistant U.S. Attorney Matthew Borgula wrote the 42-foot Fountain, the 54-foot Cruiser and a Myco trailer are eligible for forfeiture because "they represent the proceeds or traceable proceeds of fraudulent activities on the part of Michael Vorce and his business partners and entities." Vorce used the loans to buy boats, which then were used as collateral to buy other boats, records show. Some of the high-end yachts did not exist or did not belong to Vorce, a Press investigation found last year. Vorce has yet to be charged criminally in Michigan despite an FBI raid on his offices in Bridgewater Place. |
This just in
West Michigan boat broker Michael Vorce indicted on bank fraud by federal grand jury by Chris Knape | The Grand Rapids Press Thursday November 06, 2008, 2:27 PM Michael Vorce GRAND RAPIDS -- West Michigan boat broker Michael Vorce was indicted by a federal grand jury this afternoon on 15 counts ranging from bank fraud to using a false identity to open bank accounts. The 24-page indictment alleges Vorce fraudulently obtained more than $27 million from 10 lenders, most in the Grand Rapids area. The indictment marks the first time Vorce, 32, has faced criminal charges related to loans taken out at the banks using bogus collateral and fraudulent title work. RELATED RESOURCE Read the indictment against Michael Vorce The alleged fraud touched many West Michigan financial institutions. The largest loans were $9.2 million by Holland-based Macatawa Bank, $8.6 million by the Grandville branch of Irwin Union Financial and $4.7 million by Lake Michigan Credit Union, based in Grand Rapids. Vorce has been locked in a Milwaukee jail since late August when he and friend James Jett, a Byron Township resident, were arrested near Chicago. They are charged with attempting to defraud a bank and stealing the identity of a Milwaukee-area attorney as part of another apparent boat loan scheme. A Press investigation in 2007 found a trail of paperwork showing how Vorce used bogus paperwork to secure titles for boats he didn't own or that did not exist. He used those titles as collateral to borrow millions of dollars from banks. Vorce apologized to the banks which had seized and auctioned his assets. Many sued him in civil court, but he was not charged criminally in West Michigan until today. He was living in a gated mansion in Alpine Township until his Chicago arrest. The arrest occurred despite Vorce's apparent cooperation with law enforcement in the West Michigan case. Court records in Milwaukee indicate the case that led to his arrest was part of a larger, multi-state fraud case. That arrest occurred despite Vorce knowing he was being watched by law enforcement officers in West Michigan as their investigation into his loan activity here dragged on. |
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Finally charged: $27 million in fraud, 10 counts of bank fraud and facing 30 years on original charges.
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Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 2733550)
Finally charged: $27 million in fraud, 10 counts of bank fraud and facing 30 years on original charges.
Divenstar :party-smiley-048: |
Latest Update
Michael Vorce will return to Michigan to face fraud charges by Nate Reens | The Grand Rapids Press Wednesday December 17, 2008, 10:45 PM Michael Vorce James JettMILWAUKEE — A fan of yachts, Michael Vorce and his associate, James Jett, apparently also saw value in pure gold. Federal prosecutors in Wisconsin allege the West Michigan friends bought and sold the metal to launder about $3.5 million in cash they fraudulently obtained while applying for loans tied to purported boat purchases. In a criminal information filed Wednesday against Jett, authorities accuse the 30-year-old Byron Township man of participating in a scheme with Vorce to steal the identity of people "likely to qualify for large loans and to engage in large financial transactions." Authorities filed the information, which typically leads to a guilty plea without an indictment, against Jett on the same day they dismissed pending criminal allegations against Vorce, 32. Vorce, upon a judge's approval, will return to Michigan to face charges here that allege he swindled up to $27 million from 15 banks between 2002 and 2007. The Milwaukee-based accusations against Vorce can be refiled at a later date, prosecutors said. Court documents offer a glimpse of the web of fraud allegedly spun by Vorce, even as the Alpine Township man was under investigation locally and his possessions were auctioned off to repay millions lost by banks in bad loans to him. Prosecutors say Jett, who will remain jailed in Wisconsin, and Vorce used an online service to obtain credit files and then open bank accounts in victims' names. The pair also purchased cell phones and set up e-mail addresses in those names so they could communicate with lenders, records show. Records allege the suspects then applied for nearly $5 million in loans for yacht purchases using the various victims as both the buyer and the seller. One of the alleged bad loans was for $391,450 in the name of Michael Berzowski, a Milwaukee lawyer. Jett and Vorce were arrested in August outside a Chicago bank where they allegedly arranged to pick up loan documents from Bank of the West. "(They) typically used the loan proceeds to buy gold. They typically sold the gold immediately upon obtaining it," court records show. "The purpose of the gold transactions was to conceal (Vorce) and Jett's ownership and control of the loan proceeds." Among the banks the men allegedly duped was Wachovia Bank, which agreed to loan the suspects $885,000 about the same time the institution was obtaining a judgment against Vorce for an unpaid loan for $294,000. Authorities in both Wisconsin and Michigan have described the cases as incredibly complex. It took local prosecutors nearly two years to unravel 80 loans Vorce allegedly illegally obtained. He faces 10 counts of financial institution fraud, three charges of money laundering, one count of wire fraud and one count of aggravated identity theft here. Jett has not been implicated in the local allegations, but Vorce was trying to sell Jett his Alpine Township house when Bank of America foreclosed on the residence. |
On the first day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me
A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the second day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the third day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the fourth day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Four hot credit cards Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the fifth day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Five stolen rings, Four hot credit cards Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the sixth day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Six bubbas in the next cell playing, Five stolen rings, Four hot credit cards Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the seventh day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Seven lawyers lying Six bubbas in the next cell playing, Five stolen rings, Four hot credit cards Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the eighth day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Eight prison guards beating Seven lawyers lying Six bubbas in the next cell playing, Five stolen rings, Four hot credit cards Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the ninth day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Nine transvestite prisoners dancing Eight prison guards beating Seven lawyers lying Six bubbas in the next cell playing, Five stolen rings, Four hot credit cards Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the tenth day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Ten prisoners with shanks they are making Nine transvestite prisoners dancing Eight prison guards beating Seven lawyers lying Six bubbas in the next cell playing, Five stolen rings, Four hot credit cards Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the eleventh day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Eleven cell mates smoking crack pipes Ten prisoners with shanks they are making Nine transvestite prisoners dancing Eight prison guards beating Seven lawyers lying Six bubbas in the next cell playing Five stolen rings, Four hot credit cards Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! On the twelfth day of Christmas, my prison lover gave to me Twelve prisoners giving hummers Eleven cell mates smoking crack pipes Ten prisoners with shanks they are making Nine transvestite prisoners dancing Eight prison guards beating Seven lawyers lying Six bubbas in the next cell playing Five stolen rings, Four hot credit cards Three forged tax returns Two fake boat titles and A stolen Drivers License Making Machine! |
now that is funny
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The dipstick is famous LOL
Grand Rapids Press Names West Michigan's top newsmaker for 2008 The winner of the house might find a boat via the auction block, too. Michael Vorce made headlines for the second year in a row for alleged fraudulent titles on boats. In 2007, Vorce was arrested for securing millions of dollars in loans on high-end yachts that didn't exist or he did not own. The feds were still investigating that case when he was arrested again this past August for another boat loan that didn't float. |
Atta Boy Vorce! You WERE da'man until you got caught :p
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[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZpRpoYu2E[/YOUTUBE]
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"I know his heart. I know he wouldn't intentionally hurt me or his family again," she said.
This is the problem and how he got away with all this, within this sentence is one simple word that says it all. AGAIN! So shes so stupid that this guy has done something horrible to them before, but she still doesnt beleive he will do it AGAIN! I see this crap all the time. This guy will have his assets siezed only 1/3 of it will be recovered.The other 2/3 will go to the right guys to make sure its not a long stay in a bad place and he will be out in no time. Some idiot will say Oh well he was so smart, maybe he'll use it for good now that he learned his lesson and give him another nice cushy job. All while the good honest people of this country are out breaking thier balls to make a living. Pathetic |
heres a good example of what I am talking about.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...=2008811110325 Guy steals 600K and gets 16 months. In the mean time he sold race parts to tons of guys on TTF yelow bullet pontiaczone etc. Most guys on there love this Jerk cause he saved them a few bucks. They only think of themselves. When he gets out no doubt he'll start a new company selling race parts and do very well since EVERYONE knows him. Just watch and see. In the mean time there are alot of honest hard working guys trying to make it in the race parts business who will get no where. Garranteed. This counrty is all F'd up! |
WOOO HOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Local man accused of defrauding banks in fake yacht scam returns to face federal charges Posted by tgmiter January 21, 2009 21:06PM GRAND RAPIDS -- A man suspected of swindling $31.4 million from banks in fake yacht deals is back in West Michigan five months after he and an associate were arrested in Chicago. Michael Vorce Michael Vorce, 32, was transported by U.S. Marshals from Milwaukee to Ypsilanti and then into a Grand Rapids federal courtroom today. Vorce, who remains in custody, is charged with 15 counts of bank and wire fraud, identity theft and money laundering for cash he allegedly illegally obtained between 2002 and 2007. While under investigation in that case, he and a friend, James Jett, 30, were caught trying to steal the identity of a Milwaukee lawyer and obtain a $391,450 loan in his name, authorities said. Jett and Vorce were detained in Milwaukee since that arrest. Jett's case remains pending in federal court in Wisconsin, and federal prosecutors there dismissed charges against Vorce so he could face the local allegations. Authorities in Wisconsin said the pair scammed about $3.5 million from banks and then attempted to launder it by buying and selling gold. Vorce was described as a flight risk during today's seven-minute court appearance and he did not contest the detention. |
$9 mil is better than nothing.
The government has recovered $9 million of the $27 million former boat broker Michael Vorce allegedly took by scamming loans from banks, Assistant U.S. Attorney Tim VerHey said today at Vorce's arraignment hearing.
The government is seeking the remaining $16 million. Vorce, who allegedly obtained loans for boats that did not exist, lived a lavish lifestyle that included expensive vehicles, big-screen televisions and high-end furniture and appliances. RELATED STORY Michael Vorce remains jailed after pleading not guilty to bank fraud and other charges The alleged victims, and initial losses, include: • Macatawa Bank Corp.: $9.2 million • Irwin Union Bank and Trust Co. (Irwin Financial Corp.): $8.6 million • Lake Michigan Credit Union: $4.7 million • LaSalle Bank (now Bank of America): $2.2 million • Bank of America: $1.975 million • National City Bank: $370,000 • Wachovia Bank: $250,000 • Founders Bank & Trust: $292,000 • Independent Bank: $200,135 • Michigan State University Federal Credit Union: $100,000 Vorce faces 10 charges of bank fraud, three charges of money laundering, aggravated identity theft, and wire fraud. Each bank fraud count carries the longest maximum penalty of up to 30 years in prison and $1 million in fines. |
Originally Posted by DaveP
(Post 2668692)
Helen Wimpee (my rep in Annapolis) and I were the ones that sniffed out the fraud and got the FBI involved.
BAD BOYS BAD BOYS.......whatcha gonna do when Essex Credit catches you!!!! :evilb::evilb: |
Vorce to enter plea in
court Thursday Details of plea deal available Wednesday Updated: Wednesday, 17 Jun 2009, 5:11 PM EDT Published : Wednesday, 17 Jun 2009, 5:11 PM EDT GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) - Details from the plea deal Michael Vorce signed with the feds became available Wednesday. He will appear in court Thursday to enter the plea. Vorce, 31, of Grand Rapids, signed the agreement June 1 that allows the bank fraud case against him in Wisconsin to be transferred to West Michigan. He and James Jett were accused of bank fraud in 2008 for a scheme to use false information to obtain bank loans to purchase yachts that didn't exist, and then used the proceeds to buy and sell gold to cover their involvement in the bank fraud. The 10-page agreement allows Vorce to plead guilty to two counts of bank fraud, one of those cases from Wisconsin. He also agrees to plead guilty to money laundering and to, "...failing to file an income tax return after accruing a gross income of $11,311,491.65 for the year 2006." Originally, he was charged with 10 counts of bank fraud, three counts of money laundering, aggravated identity theft, wire fraud and failing to file an income tax return. He used fake names and titles of phantom boats to acquire millions of dollars in fraudulent loans from area banks. The maximum sentence just for the bank fraud is 30 years in federal prison and a $1 million fine. Vorce faces two of those sentences. In addition, he faces up to 10 years on the money laundering charge and one year on the failure to file an income tax return. In total, he could serve up to 71 years in federal prison. As part of the plea agreement, all of the other charges against Vorce will be dropped and he may be eligible for a reduction in his sentence if the court agrees to it at the time of sentencing. All of this is up to the federal judge hearing the case. |
His parents must be proud. I hope he gets the book tossed at him.
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Michael Vorce pleads guilty to four charges involving $27 million in bank fraud
by John Tunison | The Grand Rapids Press Thursday June 18, 2009, 5:53 PM Michael Vorce GRAND RAPIDS -- As he pleaded guilty today to four charges involving a $27 million fraud against banks, Michael Vorce began to tear up. Vorce, 32, described how he continued to fraudulently obtain loans for non-existent boats, this time in Chicago, after West Michigan banks caught onto him last year and seized his credit lines. "When everything that I had known, the money and things, when that went away, I fell back into the selfish needs to pursue money," he told U.S. District Court Judge Robert Holmes Bell. "At the time I was so morally corrupt, so misguided, trying to maintain the duality of what I thought was important, what I thought was me," he said. BY THE NUMBERS 17: Number of fraud-related charges Vorce faced 4: Number he admitted to Thursday $27 million: Amount Vorce bilked from 10 banks $11.3 million: Vorce's unreported gross income in 2006 2: Biggest victims, Macatawa Bank ($9.2 million) and Irwin Union, ($8.6 million) 71: Maximum years in prison for bank fraud Source: Federal prosecutors Vorce could face more than 70 years in prison when sentenced Sept. 18 in what he described himself today as a Ponzi scheme. He duped several banks, including $9.2 million from Macatawa Bank, into giving him yacht loans. Bell seemed incredulous that some banks last year gave loans without a loan officer ever having a face-to-face meeting with Vorce. Vorce described how he used the Internet to obtain loans, the first one for about $200,000, but later for $700,000 and $800,000. Vorce said he spoke on the phone with a loan officer, but never met anyone in person. He told how he and James Jett, an accomplice, were "successful in receiving a large amount of money in a short period of time, probably over three months." Vorce remains in custody |
Some repeated info some new stuff (interesting)
Michael Vorce pleads guilty, details his $27 million fraud, had 'bankrupt set of priorities' by John Tunison | The Grand Rapids Press Thursday June 18, 2009, 11:15 PM GRAND RAPIDS -- Michael Vorce, accused in one of West Michigan's largest fraud cases ever, teared up Thursday as he talked about carrying on illegal loan schemes even after banks seized and auctioned his property in 2007. Michael Vorce "I was living according to a bankrupt set of priorities," Vorce told U.S. District Court Judge Robert Holmes Bell in court Thursday, pleading guilty to four fraud-related charges involving $27 million in ill-gotten funds. "When everything that I had known, the money and things, when that went away, I fell back into the selfish needs to pursue money," he said. "At the time, I was so morally corrupt, so misguided, trying to maintain the duality of what I thought was important, what I thought was me," he said. For Vorce and federal prosecutors, the financial crime saga that became public in April 2007 and bilked loan funds from multiple banks is nearing an end. Vorce, 32, of Alpine Township, will be sentenced Sept. 18. Vorce, who has been jailed 10 months since federal authorities arrested him and co-conspirator James Jett in Chicago, pleaded guilty to two counts of bank fraud and one count each of not filing a 2006 tax return and money laundering. He could be sentenced to more than 70 years in prison. Several members of Vorce's family were in court Thursday, but declined comment after the hearing. For the first time in his own words, Vorce explained how he ran a Ponzi scheme, securing loans for at least 30 expensive boats with fraudulent documents and titles but only really owning four boats. He used Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Word and tax software programs to create fake documents, some detailing the value of boats, as part of his West Michigan Yachts company, which supposedly specialized in buying distressed boats at wholesale and reselling them at a retail price. "There was a significant amount of work that went into creating the information and perpetuating this," Vorce told the judge. Vorce described how he fooled loan officers into believing he was a "credit worthy" borrower and he gained their trust, eventually getting a $4.5 million line of credit from one bank. As part of the Ponzi, he periodically paid money on older loans to keep up the scheme. He admitted to never refurbishing any boats, but having the four boats on hand in case bank officials wanted to see them. Vorce didn't file income tax returns after 2002 out of fear of jeopardizing the scheme, which involved creating fake returns to file with banks to get loans. When federal authorities began investigating Vorce in early 2007, the banks seized his assets, including five plasma televisions, leather home theater chairs and two loaded sport-utility vehicles. Federal documents later alleged he used loan money to buy his Alpine Township mansion, a Miami condo and an exotic Aston Martin Vanquish. Vorce, however, continued his fraudulent ways on the Internet to obtain further loans as he disappeared from police. He admitted to using public wireless connections in West Michigan, including at Panera Bread, to apply for loans while he and Jett set up a "virtual" office in Chicago to receive documents. Bell seemed incredulous that some banks last year issued loans without a loan officer ever having a face-to-face meeting with Vorce. Vorce described how he used the Internet to first get a $200,000 loan, followed by larger loans for $700,000 and $800,000. BY THE NUMBERS 17: Number of fraud-related charges Michael Vorce faced 4: Number he admitted to Thursday $27 million: Amount Vorce bilked from 10 banks $11.3 million: Vorce's unreported gross income in 2006 2: Biggest victims, Macatawa Bank ($9.2 million) and Irwin Union, ($8.6 million) 70: Maximum years in prison for bank fraud Source: Federal prosecutors Vorce said he spoke on the phone with a loan officer, but never met anyone in person. He told how he and Jett were "successful in receiving a large amount of money in a short period of time, probably over three months" before federal authorities caught them picking up loan documents from a courier service in Chicago. U.S. Assistant Attorney Tim VerHey described Thursday's plea as satisfying. "It's very satisfying when you hear someone essentially say 'You caught me,'" he said. While he declined comment on whether banks should have done a better job screening loans, he called Vorce's fraud "a pretty sophisticated scheme he threw at these banks. I think he would have pulled it off regardless." |
WOW there were alot of people affected by this dirt bag!!! I hope he gets at least 70 years!!
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Is your ride running yet?
He is a douche for sure! |
HEHE HAHA HOHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evilb:
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Originally Posted by DaveP
(Post 2892219)
HEHE HAHA HOHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evilb:
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When is this smart ass going to prison? I don't know him, but I'm sick of reading about his escapades. He is no damn good and will never change. Lock him up permanently. I hate to compare the USA with China, but they would of shot him and been done with it. It's guy's like him that screw the whole economy up.
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He personaly was the reason Mackatawa Bank stock went from $60 a share to around $30 as hare overnight
This happened when he first got caught a coupel of years ago |
Originally Posted by Todd Hartigh
(Post 2892150)
Is your ride running yet?
He is a douche for sure! |
He was supposed to be sentenced on Friday.
Anyone have any news? |
Dave
I havent heard a word I will check the wekend papers and see if anything is said here |
Un Fricking Believable
This just in yesterday :( Could Vorce's sentence be reduced? US Attorney's Office files motion Thursday asking Updated: Thursday, 22 Oct 2009, 9:50 PM EDT Published : Thursday, 22 Oct 2009, 9:50 PM EDT GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) - The U.S. Attorneys Office in Grand Rapids filed a motion Thursday afternoon to have Michael Vorce's sentence reduced when he appears in court next week. Vorce, of Grand Rapids, is a West Michigan yacht broker accused in a $27 million fraud case. The U.S. Attorney cites Vorce's sworn testimony against two former business associates who may have falsified documents to entice investors into putting their money into business ventures. That appears to violate wire fraud statutes, according to the motion. Vorce also testified in a Wisconsin homicide case, helping the prosecutor to convict a defendant, according to documents. In a sentencing memo filed by Vorce's attorney, Larry Willey, his involvement in the homicide case is outlined: "Mr. Vorce cooperated in a first-degree murder case in Milwaukee County, involving a very ugly homicide of a 21-year-old woman. "The defendant was Calvin Pirtle, who appears to be a sociopath. While he was in Milwaukee County Jail, Mr. Vorce shared a cell with Mr. Pirtle, and Mr. Pirtle, on almost a daily basis, bragged to Mr. Vorce about this homicide and other similar crimes he had committed. Mr. Vorce volunteered this information on his own to the police while he still was incarcerated in Milwaukee. The police had no way of knowing of these confessions except by Mr. Vorce telling them. The other inmates hearing Mr. Pirtle's statements remained silent, understanding the stigma and danger of cooperation." Vorce also cooperated with other government agencies and the banks that were victims of his fraud, according to the sentencing memo. Vorce has agreed to forfeit his assets to the government and has transferred all that he owns to the banks, the memo states. Financially, Vorce has nothing. His wife is working, going to school and taking care of their son. She is helped by some public assistance. His next court date is Oct. 29. |
Well they don't take to well to RATS in jail so while he may get out earlier his remaining time he will have to keep looking over his shoulder and maybe he won't even make it long.
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And a little more
Michael Vorce may get reduced fraud sentence after testifying against others By Nate Reens | The Grand Rapids Press October 23, 2009, 7:43AM GRAND RAPIDS — Michael Vorce, believed to have bilked more than $20 million from banks in loans for yachts that never existed, may escape a recommended nearly 20 years in prison for testimony against former business associates locally and a man he helped convict of murder in Wisconsin. Michael Vorce Vorce, 32, formerly of Alpine Township, is in line to have his sentence for guilty pleas to multiple felony counts of bank fraud reduced. Federal prosecutors filed a motion Thursday to depart from a pre-sentence advisory that he be ordered to serve between 188 and 235 months in prison at his sentencing next Thursday. The basis of the request lies in his testimony on the alleged fraudulent business activities of former partners Ryan Steensma and Stephanie *****ett. Vorce accuses them of falsifying documents to send to investors, court records show. Vorce said Steensma, the owner of security firm Redline 22 and a former Kent County sheriff’s deputy, was able to obtain money under activity that appears to violate federal wire fraud regulations, documents show. Steensma, whose business specializes in security for companies doing work in the Middle East, Africa and other hot spots, earlier admitted to being subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury in connection with Vorce’s case. The government is pursuing that investigation, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney Tim VerHey, court records showed. It is not publicly known how much Vorce’s punishment could be reduced. Larry Willey, Vorce’s attorney, contends his client has undergone a transformation while behind bars for the past 14 months. Vorce, already under investigation by local authorities for bank fraud, was arrested and jailed while trying to steal the identity of a Milwaukee lawyer along with a friend. “Vorce now is not the same person who committed these offenses,” Willey wrote. Willey’s arguments also focus on Vorce’s cooperation as a jailhouse informant in the Wisconsin slaying case against Calvin Pirtle, convicted of “a very ugly homicide of a 21-year-old woman.” |
Originally Posted by Audiofn
(Post 2978070)
Well they don't take to well to RATS in jail so while he may get out earlier his remaining time he will have to keep looking over his shoulder and maybe he won't even make it long.
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Let's not kid ourselves. He was in the right place at the right time and overheard some information that he could use as amunition to get back out on the street again to start earning. A rat is a rat is a rat. Not surprising in the least. He did do a noble thing but only if it could benefit his position.
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Originally Posted by Audiofn
(Post 2978070)
Well they don't take to well to RATS in jail so while he may get out earlier his remaining time he will have to keep looking over his shoulder and maybe he won't even make it long.
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at least it's 12 in fed. prison. No parole there, he's gonna do the whole 12. Even so, he should'a got a lot more. I know a car dealer that just got 20 yrs. for double floor planning 18mil. was the total in that one. The michigan boy got off easy.
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i will gaurntee he will do less time than 12 years
My bet is 5 to 7 and he is out |
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